Face The State – Humane Society 12/3/17

Face The State – Humane Society 12/3/17


>>Jay: GOOD MORNING, WELCOME TO “FACE THE STATE” ON THE MONTANA
TELEVISION NETWORK. WE HOPE YOUR WEEK IS GETTING OFF
TO A GOOD START. WE’RE JOINED THIS MORNING, OUR
PLEASURE TO HAVE WITH US, SDAIF PAULI.
DAVE IS FROM THE BILLINGS AREA, DAVE IS THE SENIOR ADVISOR WITH
WILDLIFE RESPONSE AND POLICY WITH THE U.S. HUMANE SOCIETY.
THANKS FOR JOINING US. YOU HAVE HAD QUITE THE FALL, I
WOULD SAY, BECAUSE DAVE HAS BEEN RESPONDING TO THESE HURRICANE
DISASTERS NOT ONLY IN THE UNITED STATES BUT IN PUERTO RICO.
IN THE WORLD OF ANIMAL RESCUE.>>J
“FACE THE STATE” ON THE MONTANA TELEVISION NETWORK.
WE HOPE YOUR WEEK IS GETTING OFF TO A GOOD START.
WE’RE JOINED THIS MORNING, OUR PLEASURE TO HAVE WITH US, SDAIF
PAULI. DAVE IS FROM THE BILLINGS AREA,
DAVE IS THE SENIOR ADVISOR WITH WILDLIFE RESPONSE AND POLICY
WITH THE U.S. HUMANE SOCIETY. THANKS FOR JOINING US.
YOU HAVE HAD QUITE THE FALL, I WOULD SAY, BECAUSE DAVE HAS BEEN
RESPONDING TO THESE HURRICANE DISASTERS NOT ONLY IN THE UNITED
STATES BUT IN PUERTO RICO. IN THE WORLD OF ANIMAL RESCUE.
YOU’RE GOING TO ENLIGHTEN OUR AUDIENCE QUITE A BIT THIS
MORNING. THANKS FOR JOINING US.
>>HAPPY TO BE HERE, JAY.>>Jay: DAVE HAS WORKED FOR THE
HUMANE SOCIETY FOR 27 YEARS. A NATIVE OF WAIT A MINUTERTOWN,
WISCONSIN. HOW DID YOU END UP IN MONTANA?
I WANTED A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR LIFE STORY SO OUR VIEWERS CAN
SIZE YOU UP A LITTLE.>>I HAD BEEN COMING TO MONTANA
AS A TEENAGER, RELATIVES IN THE CONRAD AREA.
ALWAYS KNEW I WANTED TO GET HERE.
THEN IN COLLEGE MY GIRLFRIEND HAD MONTANA TIES.
SHE WAS COMING HERE. I ACTUALLY FOLLOWED HER HERE.
SHE DIDN’T STAY VERY LONG BUT I FOLLOWED HERE HERE, AND TOOK A
JOB WITH THE BILLINGS ANIMAL SHELTER, WORKING FOR GENE KIZER.
AND WAS HERE THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
AND DECIDED THIS IS WHERE I WANTED TO LIVE.
>>Jay: YOU HAVE ALWAYS HAD A LOVE FOR ANIMALS, OBVIOUSLY.
>>YES.>>Jay: YOU HAD TO FIGURE OUT A
NICHE WHERE YOU COULD MAKE A LIVING OF THE OF THIS.
>>YES, INDEED.>>Jay: AND YOU SAID YOU’VE BEEN
IN BILLINGS FOR MOST OF YOUR TIME IN MONTANA, WITH A BRIEF
RESPITE OUT TO THETRY CITIES.>>YES, THE TRI-CITIES, RAN A
BI-COUNTY HUMANE SOCIETY. AS SOON AS THE OPPORTUNITY
PRESENTED ITSELF I GOT BACK TO MONTANA.
>>Jay: TELL US ABOUT THE HUMANE SOCIETY, BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE
HEARD ABOUT THAT, THEY ASSOCIATE IT I’M SURE WITH THE LOCAL
ANIMAL SHELTER.>>YES.
>>Jay: TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE HOW YOU GOT HOOKED UP WITH THEM.
>>THE HUMANE SO SIEFLT UNITED STATES IS A NATIONAL NONPROFIT.
WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF ANIMAL CARE FACILITIES AROUND THE
COUNTRY. BUT WE’RE NOT IN CHARGE OF LOCAL
HUMANE SOCIETIES. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN BOARDS OF
DIRECTORS. SO WE’RE NOT A PARENT
ORGANIZATION, WE’RE JUST A HELPFUL ORGANIZATION.
AND I WORK IN THE WILDLIFE DEPARTMENT, HAVE FOR SOME TIME.
I SAY I WORK FOR THE HUMANE SOCIETY BUT HIGH JOB IS REALLY
TO WORK TOWARD A MORE HUMANE SOCIETY.
IT’S NOT JUST DOGS AND CATS, IT’S NOT JUST MONTANA, IT’S
PRETTY OF THE BROAD SPECTRUM OF ANY CRITTER, ANY CRISIS.
>>Jay: ANY CRITTER, ANY CRISIS. DAVE HAS AN AMAZING STORY, YOU
MAY HAVE SEEN WE’VE DONE SOME NEWS ARTICLES WITH DAVE
RECENTLY, SINCE HE’S BEEN BACK FROM PUERTO RICO.
BUT YOU RESPONDED TO ALL OF THESE HURRICANES BEGINNING WITH
HURRICANE HARVEY IN HOUSTON, AND I THINK BACK A FEW YEARS AS
WELL. YOU’VE KIND OF BECOME THE GO-TO
GUY. HOW DO YOU BECOME THE SENIOR
ADVISOR FOR WILDLIFE RESPONSE? THAT’S SOMETHING YOU HAVEN’T HAD
ALL THAT LONG, 2 1/2 YEARS OR SO?
>>YEAH, YEAH. I STARTED WORKING AS SUPPORT OF
SHELTERS, REGIONAL DIRECTOR FOR MONTANA, IDAHO AND WYOMING.
I’VE ALWAYS GRAVITATED TO WILDLIFE PROJECTS.
IT WAS A SLOWLY EVOLVING, ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO I STARTED DOING
ALL WIEMD LIFE. WILDLIFE.
SENIOR DIRECTOR POSITION CAME UP TO TRY AND GET ME FOCUSED ON
THREE OR FOUR THINGS. RESCUES, DISASTERS, LARGE SCALE
ANIMAL CAPTURE PROJECTS AND CONTRACEPTION.
DO I A LOT OF DEER AND HORSE CONTRACEPTION PROJECTS WITH PZP
WHICH IS MADE AT THE SCIENCE AND CONSERVATION CENTER IN BILLINGS,
MONTANA.>>Jay: AMAZING.
SO, AGAIN, IT’S A VERY SMALL WORLD IN ALL OF OUR LOCATIONS
THESE DAYS.>>YES.
>>Jay: WHERE DO YOU FIND THE TIME?
WE WERE LOOKING AT DAVE’S FACEBOOK PAGE F YOU GO ON THERE,
DAVE PAULI BILLINGS FACEBOOK, YOU HAVE CHICKENS YOU HAVE TAKEN
IN, YOU HAVE A DESERT TORTOISE, A GOPHER TORTOISE.
AND YOU TRAVELED ALL THE WAY TO MISSOULA TO HELP SAVE THIS
TORTOISE. TELL US ABOUT IT.
>>THIS IS A UNIQUE STORY. I DO A LOT OF WILDLIFE RESCUE
AND REHAB. THIS WILL BE A PERMANENT
ADDITION TO MY REHAB ANIMALS. IT’S TINY, IT’S — LOOKS LIKE A
YEARLING OR AN OLD HATCHLING. BUT IT’S ACTUALLY 20-PLUS YEARS
OLD. IT WAS OWNED BY A GENTLEMAN WHO
HAD ANOTHER TORTOISE AND THEY REALLY WERE DEPRIVED OF
NUTRITION FOR WHATEVER REASON. THAT GENTLEMAN WAS JUST PUT —
WENT THROUGH A CARE FACILITY FOR DEMENTIA.
SO HIS FAMILY DISCOVERED THOSE TORTOISES WHICH HAD BEEN PRETTY
MUCH LIVING ON THEIR OWN. SO HE’S GOT SOME PROBLEMS.
HE HAS SOME SHELL ISSUES. BUT I THINK LOWLY AND SLOWLY I
CAN BRING HIM AROUND TO HAVING A PRETTY NORMAL DIET, AND SOMEWHAT
NORMAL LIFESTYLE FOR –>>Jay: IS WHAT THE LIFE EXPICKS
TAN SI OF GOPHER TORTOISE?>>THEY CAN LIVE FIVE, SIX
DECADES.>>Jay: WOW.
>>QUITE A WHILE. BUT THIS TURTLE SHOULD BE DINNER
PLATE SIZE AND HE’S TINY.>>Jay: YOU CAN’T TELL FROM THE
PICTURES OTHER THAN YOUR HAND IN THERE.
BUT WHEN I HEAR HE’S SUPPOSED TO BE DINNER PLATE SIZE THAT PUTS
IT IN PERSPECTIVE.>>YES.
HE IS VERY NEGATIVELY IMPACTEDnd, AND HIS BEAK IS
DEFORMED. WE CAN BRING IT AROUND.
I MIGHT HAVE HIM ANOTHER TWO YEARS OR ANOTHER 20 YEARS.
WHATEVER HE DECIDES, EXACTLY.>>Jay: HE’S JUST ONE OF, YOU
HAVE A BAT THAT YOU RECENTLY NURSED — BAT GIRL YOU CALL HER?
>>THE BAT WAS JUST SOFT RELEASED, WHICH IS DIFFICULT IN
THE WINTER. SHE MAY BE LIVING IN MY CHICKEN
LOFT, UP WITH SOME BUSHY TAILED WOOD RATS.
I GAVE HER THE CHOICE. SHE WAS VERY FEISTY.
SHE WAS HYPOTHERMEC, I THINK. MOST ARE SHORT-TERM REHAB AND I
TRY TO GET THEM TO A SPECIALIST, SOME ONE WHO DEALS WITH THE
SPECIES. AIM A GENERALIST, BUT I’VE DONE
IT LONG ENOUGH CAN I GET MOST THINGS DONE.
>>Jay: MUST BE INTERESTING THING WHEN DAVE INVITES YOU OVER
FOR DINNER. NOT ONLY A BAT, YOU HAVE NURSED
A — SEVERAL PORCUPINES BACK TO HEALTH, RACCOONS, DUCKS, I SAW
YOU RELEASED A FEW DUCKS. EVEN COYOTES AND WEASELS IS WHAT
THEY SAY. NEVER A DULL MOMENT IN THE PAULI
HOUSEHOLD.>>ALWAYS INTERESTING.
EVERY DAY IS DIFFERENT. EVERY ONE OF THOSE CRITTERS
TEACHES ME SOMETHING. PRETTY AMAZING.
I THINK I KNOW A SPECIES PRETTY WELL AND THEN I MEET A NEW
ANIMAL AND IT REEDUCATES ME THAT I DON’T KNOW SO MUCH.
>>Jay: AMAZING. DID YOU GET YOUR COLLEGE DEGREE
IN THIS LINE OF WORK?>>NO, NO, MY DEGREES ARE IN
AGRICULTURAL JOURNALISM AND AGRICULTURAL ECONOMICS.
I’VE NEVER REALLY WORKLED IN EITHER.
WHEN I WENT TO COLLEGE I HAD A BUSINESS IN MADISON, WISCONSIN
CALLED HUMANE ANIMAL CONTROL. BATS OUT OF ATTICS, RACCOONS OUT
OF CHIMNEYS. I’VE BEEN DOING IT A WHILE.
>>Jay: HOW OFTEN DO YOU GET CALLED FOR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS
IN MONTANA?>>I STILL GET CALLS, WHEN I’M
IN TOWN I RESPOND. IF I CAN, I’LL GO TRY TO HELP
IT. OR AT LEAST TALK THEM THROUGH.
I JUST, THE AUDUBON CENTER HAD A DEER FALL THROUGH THEIR ICE AND
I WAS ON THE PHONE WITH THEM AND THEY DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB
GETTING THAT DEER ON THE SHELF AND ON TO THE SHORE AND LETTING
THE DEER MAKE DECISIONS. A LOT OF TIMES IT’S TALKING TO
PEOPLE. RECENTLY, I HAD A CALL FROM A
WOMAN IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND A FRIEND HAD A PROBLEM IN HAITI.
I KNEW ONE PERSON IN HAITI, ONE VET.
THIS WOMAN CALLED ME FROM A FACEBOOK PAGE AND SAID THERE’S
AN INJURED SHORE BIRD, EVEN CHANGE DANGERED BIRD, CAN YOU
HELP. I TEXTED THE VET IN HAITI, SHE
WAS ABOUT 20 MINUTES FROM THERE AND SHE WENT AND GOT IT, AND THE
NEXT DAY RELEASED IT. IT WAS JUST STUNNED.
HALTIE, NEW HAMPSHIRE, HAITI, BILLINGS.
THE INTERNET IS AMAZE.>>Jay: WHERE DO YOU FIND THE
TIME? WHEN YOU GO WHO TAKES CARE OF
THE ANIMALS THAT YOU’RE HOUSE SITTING FOR?
>>MY YOUNGEST DAUGHTER JUST GRADUATED WITH A WILDLIFE DEGREE
FROM MISSOULA, SHE’S BACK IN THE NEST FOR A WHILE.
THAT ALLOWS ME TO TAKE ON A FEW ADDITIONAL PROJECTS.
AND SHE’S GOOD ABOUT. THAT AND MY WIFE IS OUTSTANDING,
AS LONG AS IT’S NOT A REPTILE OR A RODENT.
ALL THE REST OF THE STUFF SHE’S HAPPY WITH.
BUT NOT BIG ON RATS. LOVES SQUIRRELS BUT NOT BIG ON
RATS AND SNAKES.>>Jay: I READ YOU WERE SUPPOSED
TO GET A SNAKE WITH THE TORTOISE BUT THAT DIDN’T HAPPEN.
>>DIDN’T HAPPEN, THE HOME THAT IT WAS GOING TO TEMPORARILY FELL
THROUGH. WE’RE STILL LOOKING FOR A HOME
FOR THAT SNAKE.>>Jay: A FASCINATING LINE OF
WORK YOU’RE IN.>>PRETTY COOL.
>>Jay: NEVER A DULL MOVEMENT. AGAIN, HIS FACEBOOK PAGE IS
REALLY ENTERTAINING TO LOOK THROUGH.
WHAT IS THE MOST FASCINATING RECENT WILDLIFE STORY BEFORE WE
GET INTO RESPONDING TO THESE HURRICANE AND ANIMAL RESCUES
DOWN THERE?>>THIS YEAR I DID — I TRY NOT
TO TAKE IN A LOT OF ANIMALS IN THE SPRING.
BUT THERE WAS AN OVERABUNDANCE OF RACCOONS.
I GOT SOME ORPHANED RACCOONS FROM FOUR ON YOU FIVE DIFFERENT
SPOTS. I DO A MENTOR PROGRAM WHERE I
CAPTURE A WILD RACCOON AND LET THEM IMPRINT THEN RELEASE THEM
WITH THE WILD RACCOON. HAYED EIGHT BABIES AND ONE MAMA.
THAT’S INTERESTING. YOU SEE THAT I CANNOT TEACH A
RACCOON HOW TO EAT A KRAFISH, I DON’T KNOW HOW TO TEACH.
THAT BUT A WILD RACCOON TEACHES THEM THAT IN A MINUTE.
I USED TO CHASE MYRA KOONS INTO A PEN EVERY NIGHT AND TRY TO
MAKE THEM NOCTURNAL. AND IT DIDN’T WORK.
A WILD RACCOON TEACHES THEM TO BE NOCTURNAL IN TWO DAYS.
THAT’S PROBABLY, THE FWIGEST — ABOUT THE FOURTH YEAR I’VE DONE
THAT WHERE I LET A WILD RACCOON DO THE TRAIN THAT I SIMPLY COULD
NOT DO. THERE IS BONDING, TOO, THEY HAVE
A MENTOR WHEN THEY’RE RELEASED. SO THAT’S PRETTY UNIQUE.
>>Jay: WELL, I WOULD SAY VERY UNIQUE.
AND THE BONDING THING IS WHAT WOULD GET ME.
I WOULD GET ATTACHED TO THESE ANIMALS.
I’M SURE YOU DO. HOW DID YOU GET OVER THAT, OR IS
IT A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS?>>WELL, IT’S ALWAYS, MY WIFE IS
MY LITMUS TEST F I TALK ABOUT BUILDING A BIGGER CAGE FOR
SOMETHING, OR BUILD AN AREA FOR AN ANIMAL, SHE’LL GO, I THOUGHT
THIS WAS A SIX-WEEK THING. SO I STRETCH SOME OUT BECAUSE
SOME ANIMALS ARE SO INTERESTING YOU CAN LEARN SO MUCH.
BUT THE REALITY IS, WILDLIFE BELONGS IN THE WILD.
OR IF IT CAN’T BE PUT IN THE WILD IT BELONGS IN A GOOD
FOREVER HOME, A FACILITY THAT PUTS THE ANIMAL FIRST.
SANCTUARY, A ZOO, A SCIENTIFIC FACILITY, ANYBODY THAT CAN
PROVIDE FOR THAT ANIMAL FOR THE REST OF ITS LIFE.
>>Jay: INTERESTING. WE’RE GOING TO TALK TO YOU IN
JUST A SECOND ABOUT YOUR ANIMAL RESCUE STORIES.
IF YOU ARE JUST JOINING US ON “FACE THE STATE,” FASCINATING
DISCUSSION WITH DAVE PAULI, THE SENIOR ADVISOR OF THE WILDLIFE
RESPONSE AND POLICY WITH THE HUMANE SO SIEFLT UNITED STATES.
DAVE HAS BEEN WITH THE HUMANE SOCIETY FOR 27 YEARS.
WE’RE HAPPY THAT HE MAKES HIS LIVING HERE IN BILLINGS,
MONTANA, HAS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
THE GO-TO GO WHEN IT COMES TO ANIMAL RESCUE.
BUT NOT JUST HERE, AROUND THE COUNTRY.
TELL US ABOUT POW YOU GOT INTO THIS — ABOUT HOW YOU GOT INTO
THIS. WHEN PEOPLE LOSE THEIR HOMES IN
HORRIFIC STORMS SO DO THE ANIMALS.
THEY’RE IN THE SAME BOAT, THE SAME SITUATION AS THE HUMANS.
>>TWO GOOD COMMENTS. THE FIRST IS THAT IN THIS MOST
RECENT MARIA, THE FIRST FOUR DAYS WE WERE THERE WE DID HUMAN
RESCUE. WE LOOK OUT RICE AND BEANS,
PROVIDED PERSONAL HYGIENE ITEMS AND BAMENTRYES, PRETTY MUCH
BECAUSE WHEN YOU HELP THE PEOPLE YOU’RE HELPING THE ANIMALS.
WHEN THAT IMMEDIATE NEED IS MET AND WE DO PET FOOD,
VACCINATIONS, WE’RE HELPING THE ANIMALS BUT STILL HELPING THE
PEOPLE. NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO WHEN YOU
RESPOND YOU’RE HELPING THE COMMUNITY.
HELP THEM PREPARE TO GET THROUGH SOMETHING AS TOUGH AS WHAT
THEY’RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW.>>Jay: AND SO THEN YOU HAD TO
CHANGE YOUR MISSION, YOU WENT FROM ANIMAL RESCUE TO WELL WE
NEED TO FOCUS ON THE HUMANS HERE.
THEN IT WAS A DUEL MISSION FOR A WHILE.
>>EXACTLY, EXACTLY. WE WERE UNUSUAL AND FORTUNATE IN
THAT WE HAD A PRIVATE PILOT THAT COULD BRING IN SUPPLIES EVERY
DAY. SMALL ENOUGH TO LAND THERE,
COMMERCIAL CRAFT STILL AREN’T LANDING THERE, BIG ONES.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET STUFF TO EITHER FORT LAULDER DALE,
FLORIDA AND HAVE A PLANE BRING IT TO SAN JUAN AND SLIDE OVER ON
THE HELICOPTER. OR WE JUST BRING IN STUFF.
I MEAN, IT IS AMAZING. WHEN YOU MAKE A LIST OF DISASTER
RESPONSE SUPPLIES, YOU DON’T THINK ABOUT COLORING BOOKS AND
KRA YONS. BUT — CRAYONS.
BUT IF YOU HAVE A FAMILY WITH FIVE KIDS AND NO POWER AND NO
WATER THEY NEED STUFF TO KEEP THEM BUSY.
COLORING BOOK AND CRAYONS OR A LITTLE SO LOR BATTERILESS
LANTERN MEANS THE WORLD. MOSQUITO NETTING MEANS THE
WORLD, THEY ARE LIVING UNDER THEIR PORCHES AND HAVE ALL OF
THE COUSINS THERE. IT’S THOSE LITTLE THINGS THAT
REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE. AND PROVIDING PET FOOD WAS A BIG
ONE. THERE WAS NONE AVAILABLE
LOCALLY. THAT WAS NOT THE PRIORITY FOR
THE GROCERY STORES TO BRING IN PET FOOD.
>>Jay: ABSOLUTELY.>>SO WE FILLED THE NICHE.
WHEN THE NEED WAS THERE WE WERE ABLE TO HELP.
>>Jay: YOU ARE ABOUT TO GO BACK, AGAIN, TO VIECAS.
>>I’M LEAVING THE 28th AND COMING BACK — USUALLY LEAVE IT
OPEN, 10, 11, 12. HERE WE’RE DOING A HUGE
SPAY-NEUTER CLINIC, 500, 600 ANIMALS.
I’M RUNNING HORSE FIELD CLINICS. WE’RE DOING HORSE VACCINATIONS,
WE’RE DOING SOME GUILDINGS, SOMETHING WE NORMALLY WOULDN’T
DO BUT WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS ASKING FOR, BECAUSE OF THE
DISASTER, BECAUSE OF STUDS BEING LOOSE THERE’S MORE PROBLEMS WITH
LOOSE STUDS, THEY NEED GELDING. THAT’S WHAT WE’RE GOING TO
PROVIDE BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT THEY ASKED FOR.
COUPLE OF TEAMS DOING THAT.>>Jay: YOU’LL BE ABLE TO SIZE
UP THE SITUATION IN PUERTO RICO COMPARED TO THE LAST TIME.
SHARE WITH THE VIEWERS, IF YOU WOULD, THE SITUATION THAT YOU
ENCOUNTERED DOWN IN PUERTO RICO. YOU WERE SAYING, THE LATEST NEWS
REPORTS ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE DIED SINCE THE
HURRICANE HIT, DUE TO A LACK OF POWER AND MEDICAL HELP, IS JUST
STAGGERING.>>IT’S ALWAYS THE DISASTER
AFTER THE DISASTER. CAN YOU MULTIPLY THAT SEVERAL
TIMES. FIRST, NECESSITY GOT HIT WITH
IRMA, IRMA PRETTY WELL FLATTENED VIECAS AND HIT PUERTO RICO
PROPER STRONGLY. THEN PEOPLE TRY TO RECOVER, GET
UP AND PUT PARTS ON THE ROOFS, GET GOING.
12 DAYS LATER, MARIA CAME IN WITH A VENGEANCE.
ALL OF THE TREES THAT WERE PROTECTING SOME AREAS WERE
ALREADY GONE. SO IT CAME IN, POURED TONS OF
WATER AND THE TARPS COLLAPSED, AND COLLAPSED IN BUILDINGS.
PRETTY MUCH ANY WOOD STRUCTURE, ANY STICK STRUCTURE, WAS
DEVASTATED BY THE TWO STORMS. MANY OF THE BRICK AND MORTAR
STRUCTURES WERE DAMAGED. SO, I THINK THE INITIAL WAS 80%
STRUCTURES WERE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED.
BUT THE KEY THERE WAS THIS ISLAND IS DEPENDENT ON THE
MOTHER LAND, ON PUERTO RICO, TO SUPPLY WATER, ELECTRICITY AND
GASOLINE. AND THERE WAS A SHORTAGE OF
GASOLINE. SO ALTHOUGH THERE’S ONLY 22,000
PEOPLE ON THE ISLAND, THAT STILL —
>>Jay: YOU SAID YOU’RE HEARING THEY’RE STILL FOUR-HOUR —
>>FOUR-HOUR WAITS IN LINES, EVERYBODY IS LIVING ON
GENERATORS, INCREASES THE GAS. YOU KNOW IT’S HOT AND HUMID.
IT’S NOT GOOD FOR PEOPLE’S ATTITUDES TO HAVE TO SIT IN
LINE. INITIALLY, THEY HAD A LIMIT ON
HOW MUCH, $20 IN GAS. AND FOR A FAMILY WITH A
GENERATOR RUNNING 24/7 BECAUSE OF DIABETES OR SOME OTHER
CONCERN, THAT’S NOT A LOT OF GAS.
SO, YES, THE COMPLICATIONS FROM THAT.
FIRES FROM PEOPLE TRYING TO JUMPSTART THEIR ELECTRICAL
SYSTEM. MOLD FROM ALL OF THE WATER.
IT JUST REALLY PEOPLE ARE LIVING FRUGALLY AND WITHOUT MUCH FOR
TWO MONTHS.>>Jay: WOW.
AND YOU’RE GOING BACK.>>YEAH, YEAH, I’M GOING BACK.
I’M HOOKED. THE VIECAS PEOPLE ARE AMAZING,
RESILIENT. I WOULD SAY 90% OF THE PEOPLE
THAT I WORKED WITH EVEN THOUGH THEY HAD NOTHING STILL OFFERED
ME SOMETHING. OFFERED ME RICE OR A WATER, OR
IF THEY WERE VERY FORTUNATE COLD WATER, THEY GOT ICE FROM
SOMEWHERE. AND THEY WOULD OFFER AND I WOULD
SAY, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
BUT YOU REALLY NEED TO CONSERVATIVE THAT.
THEY’D ALSO FEED THEIR ANIMALS. OR COME TO ME LOOKING FOR HORSE
FEED OR DOG FOOD OR CAT FOOD. BECAUSE ANIMALS WERE IMPORTANT
TO THEM. AND TO THEIR CHILDREN.
SO, YEAH, I GO BACK AS LONG AS WE HAVE A MISSION AND CAN DO
SOME GOOD. I’LL GO BACK.
>>Jay: MAYBE SAW THE PICTURES OF THE LAST TIME DAVE CAME BACK.
YOU BROUGHT, FIVE PUPPIES?>>YES, YES.
THAT WAS, THOSE PUPPIES WERE BORN THE DAY AFTER MARIA.
THEIR OWNERS’ HOUSE WAS DESTROYED BY IRMA, THEY HAD TO
EVACUATE. LEFT THE ISLAND.
SO A NEIGHBOR TOOK MAMASAN UNDER HER WING NOT KNOWING THE NEXT
DAY SHE WOULD HAVE SIX PUPPIES. I BROUGHT FIVE HOME, LEFT ONE
WITH MAMA SO SHE WOULDN’T GET MASTITIS AND DIDN’T FEEL TOTALLY
ABANDONED. I’LL GET TO GO BACK AND COMPARE
THAT PUP TO THE FIVE THAT WE FATTENED AND TAMED.
AND SEE HOW THEY’RE DOING. BUT THE REALITY IS THOSE PUPPIES
WOULD HAVE BEEN FERIL DOGS. THEY HAVE A TOUGH LIFE, THEY
LIVE BY THE KINDNESS OF A NEIGHBOR OR THEY CATCH IGUANAS
TO EAT OR EAT OUT OF THE GARBAGE CANS.
IT’S A TOUGH LIFE. SOMEBODY ASKED ME, DOES BRINGING
FIVE PUPPIES FROM PUERTO RICO MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE IN THE BIG
PICTURE. I CAN JUST SAY TO THOSE FIVE
DOGS IT MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE.
AND I THINK WE TOOK, THE DAY I CAME BACK, WE TOOK 209 ANIMALS
FROM PUERTO RICO TO SEATTLE. AND THAT ALLOWS THE LOCAL HUMANE
SOCIETIES TO HAVE SOME CAPACITY. NOW THEY CAN GO OUT, THEY WERE
ALL OVERFLOWING. FOR PEOPLE CALLING THEM AND SAY,
I HAVE TO LEAVE ON A PLANE TOMORROW CAN YOU TAKE MY DOGS,
THEY WOULD HAVE TO SAY NO. SO THAT’S IMPORTANT WORK, TOO,
TO GIVE THE LOCALS SOME CAPACITY.
>>Jay: GRATIFICATION IN YOUR JOB MUST BE OVERWHELMING, I AM A
MAKING A DIFFERENCE. MIGHT BE ONE PUPPY AT A TIME.
>>EVERY DAY, YES, THE HUGS FROM PEOPLE ARE WHAT CARRY YOU
THROUGH. THEIR APPRECIATION FOR THE
THINGS. YEAH, IT’S PRETTY REWARDING.
DEPRESSING BECAUSE SOME OF THE REALITIESnd THE STORMS WERE
DEADLY TO NOT JUST PEOPLE AND STRUCTURES BUT TO WILDLIFE.
MOST OF THE MONGOOSE WENT UNDERGROUND WHICH IS NOT A GOOD
DECISION WITH THE STORM SURGE. MOST OF THE IGUANAS WENT UP IN
THE TREES AND THEY TOOK A BEATING BECAUSE OF THE WIND.
SO, YOU KNOW. AND THE HORSES WE ONLY KNOW,
THERE’S APPROXIMATELY 2,000 HORSES ON THE ISLAND.
WE ONLY KNOW OF SIX FATALITIES. IT’S PROBABLY HIGHER THAN THAT.
BUT THE HORSES GOT DOWN IN THE LOWLAND AND PUT THEIR BUTTS TO
THE WIND AND JUST FOUGHT IT OUT.>>Jay: RODE IT OUT.
>>YEAH. WE DID SEE A LOT OF DEBRIS
INJURIES A HORSE WITH A BROKE JAW.
AND WIRE CUTS. BUT THOSE ARE TREATABLE.
>>Jay: ABSOLUTELY. TELL ME HOW HURRICANE HARVEY
WAS, YOU ALSO WORKED IN TEXAS, THEN YOU TOOK HURRICANE IRMA ON
THE FLORIDA SIDE AS WELL AND SAW SOME OF THE DEVASTATION.
>>YES. IRMA, I WAS REALLY DOING
EVALUATIONS ON MY WAY TO SAN JUAN.
HARVEY, I WAS THERE NINE OR TEN DAYS.
AND I WENT TO ROCKPORT, TEXAS WHICH WAS WHERE THE LANDFALL OF
THE STORM WAS, THE STORM SURGE. AND IT, TOO, WAS DEVASTATED.
BUT THERE IS A GOOD CONTRAST BETWEEN TEXAS AND PUERTO RICO,
BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORING STATES POURED IN RESOURCES.
AND ON DAY TWO, WE HAD PEOPLE SETTING UP FOOD STANDS AND
TAKING CARE OF PEOPLE. WE HAD THINGS I’VE NEVER SEEN IN
DISASTERS. THE SOUTHERN BAPTISTS COME IN
AND SET UP A LAUNDROMAT NOT WHERE YOU COULD WASH CLOTHES BUT
LEAVE YOUR CLOTHES AND IN THE MORNING PICK THEM UP.
>>Jay: REALLY.>>SO, I MEAN, THOSE ARE NICE
BENEFITS THAT WE APPRECIATE, AT THE END OF THE DAY HAND WASHING
A SHIRT AND PAIR OF PANTS IS NEVER FUN.
THOSE KIND OF THINGS. BUT I ACTUALLY PERFORMED ANIMAL
CONTROL THERE OF THE SIX ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS IN ROCKPORT,
FIVE OF THEM LOST THEIR HOMES. SO THEY WERE HURTING UNIT, I
LIKE TO SAY THEY REALLY — SO I GOT TO FULFILL THAT, GOT A
COUNTY TRUCK, DID RESCUES, HELPED PEOPLE, DID DOG BRIGHT
PREVENTION, WHATEVER WAS CALLED ON BY ANIMAL CONTROL.
WE HAD A SMALL TEAM THERE. AND WE ALSO DID SOME TRANSPORTS
FROM THERE AND SENT ANIMALS FROM THEIR SHELTER TO GIVE THEM
CAPACITY. IT WAS ANOTHER — FIRST FIVE
NIGHTS THERE, I SLEPT IN THE COUNTY JAIL.
I WAS IN CELLBLOCK.>>Jay: BY CHOICE.
>>YES, BY CHOICE. AND VERY HAPPY TO HAVE IT.
>>Jay: REALLY.>>YEAH, SO WE HAD A TEAM THAT
TOOK OVER A CELLBLOCK, C-4. AND IT WORKED OUT PRETTY WELL.
THEN AT THE END OF THE WEEK WE HAD SOMEBODY BRING IN AN R.V.
THAT WE COULD MOVE OUT. THEY NEEDED TO OPEN THEIR JAIL
BACK UP. I DIDN’T WANT TO SHARE A CELL
WITH ANYBODY.>>Jay: RIGHT, RIGHT.
SOUNDS LIKE TOTALLY TWO DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES, EVEN
THOUGH THE DEVASTATION I’M SURE WAS ON THE SAME PAR.
BUT PUERTO RICO GOT TWO STORMS WITHIN TWO WEEKS.
>>TWO STORMS AND THEN THEY HAVE THREE CHERRY PICKER TRUCKS,
ELECTRICAL TRUCKS FOR FIXING. IN TEXAS, I SAW 350, I THINK
MONTANA I THINK MONTANA CO-OP SENT A COUPLE OF TRUCKS DOWN.
>>Jay: YES.>>THAT’S WHAT MAINLAND AMERICA
DOES. IT SENDS THOSE RESOURCES.
TEXAS COULD GET POWER BACK IN A WEEK.
PUERTO RICO, IS IN A WORLD OF HURT FOR POWER.
AND VIECAS, MIGHT BE ANOTHER FOUR MONTHS BEFORE THEY HAVE AN
ELECTRICAL GRID.>>Jay: WOW.
>>PEOPLE THAT HAVE A BABY, PEOPLE THAT NEED A REFRIGERATOR
FOR MEDICINE, EVEN RESTAURANTS TRYING TO OPEN UP, JUST THE
LOGISTIX OF GETTING VEGETABLES AND HAVING IN THIS CASE
ELECTRICAL IS HUGE. BUT THEY ARE RESILIENT.
EVERY DAY IT GETS A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
>>Jay: SOME ONE WATCHING THIS MORNING AND THEY WANT TO HELP, I
MEAN THERE’S A TON OF PLACES. BUT ANY SUGGESTIONS FROM YOU?
>>WELL, TRULY THERE ARE SO MANY GOOD ORGANIZATIONS DOING GOOD
WORK. AND DEPENDING IF THEY WANT TO BE
SPECIFIC TO EITHER A STORM OR TO A LOCATION, THEY CAN REACH OUT
ON THE INTERNET AND FIND GOOD PLACES.
I KNOW THE HUMANE SOCIETY HAS DONE AMAZING WORK PROVIDING
STUFF. I’D BE FOOLISH NOT TO SAY THERE
ARE OPPORTUNITIES. BUT THEY ALSO CAN CONTACT LOCAL
ANIMAL GROUPS AND SEE IF THEY NEED HELP, AND THEY ALL DO.
SO THEY CAN EITHER GO LOCAL, STATE, OR NATIONAL.
AND THEY CAN GO FROM THE SALVATION ARMY TO THE RED CROSS
TO ANY OF THE FAITH-BASED GROUPS, ANY OF THE VOLUNTEER
ORGANIZATIONS ACTIVE IN DISASTERS.
AND A LITTLE SEARCH ON THE WEB AND THEY — THERE ARE TOO MANY
CHOICES. AND PEEP KM CONTACT ME IF THEY
HAVE A REALLY SPECIFIC — ONE STORY, CODY ROSE, A 9-YEAR-OLD
GIRL IN HELENA, RAISED MONEY FOR DISASTER RELIEF, RAISED $167,
HER MOM ROUNDED IT UP TO $200. SHE CALLED ME AND SAID HOW CAN
WE GET THIS ON THE GROUND SO IT HELPS ANIMALS.
AND I SAID, WELL, HERE’S, THE SAME THING, GAVE HER A LIST.
I SAID IF NONE OF THOSE WORK SEND IT TO ME AND I WILL DELIVER
IT TO THE NATIVES. SO THEY GAVE ME $200 AND I GAVE
$100 TO VIECAS ANIMAL SANCTUARY AND $100 TO THE VIECAS HUMANE
SOCIETY. BOTH OF WHICH THE PEOPLE,
RECIPIENTS WERE IN TEARS BECAUSE OF THE EFFORTS OF A 9-YEAR-OLD
GIRL IN HELENA THINKING ABOUT THEM.
IT’S GOOD STUFF. REALLY, CASH PEOPLE WANT TO PUT
TOGETHER PET FOOD AND CLOTHING AND MATERIAL THINGS.
FOR ALMOST ANY GROUP, CASH IS REALLY THE PREFERRED DONATION
BECAUSE THEN THEY CAN GET EXACTLY WHAT THEY NEED.
AND EXAMPLE WITH DOG FOOD, I LOVE, I ALSO WAS INCIDENT
COMMANDER FOR KATRINA. AND WE GOT IN 87,000 DIFFERENT
KINDS OF DOG FOOD AND IT GIVES THE DOGS DIARRHEA, THEY NEVER
HAVE A CONSISTENT DIET. PEOPLE DON’T THINK ABOUT.
THAT IT’S NICE IF WE CAN WORK WITH A VENDOR AND GET ONE TYPE.
CASH WHEN YOU CAN.>>Jay: ABSOLUTELY.
WHAT A FASCINATING JOB YOU HAVE. REALLY APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE
TIME. WE JUST GOT A COUPLE OF MINUTES
LEFT. I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT A COUPLE
OF OTHER THINGS, HUMANE SOCIETY IS ALSO INVOLVED IN ANYTHING
ANIMALS. CHRONIC WASTING DISEASE, JUST
DISCOVERED COUPLE OF CASES. WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THAT
IS THE HUMANE SOCIETY?>>A LITTLE BIT.
DEFINITELY KUDOS TO MONTANA FISH, WILDLIFE AND PARKS FOR
MAKING IT A PRIORITY, GETTING A TEAM DOWN.
OUR ROLE IN CHRONIC WASTING DISEASE IS IN A MOSTLY IT WAS
SPREAD IN THE EASTERN PART OF THE COUNTRY FROM GAME FARMS,
CANNED HUNTING OPERATIONS. WE TRY TO STOP THAT.
THIS ONE IS REALLY THE FEEDING OPERATIONS IN WYOMING IS THE
SUSPECT. WE ARGUE THAT’S NOT SUSTAINABLE.
ON THE ETHICAL SIDE WE TRY TO PROMOTE THINGS THAT WOULD NOT
START THE DISEASE. AND THEN KUDOS TO THE DEPARTMENT
FOR GETTING DOWN AND MONITORING AND EDUCATING PEOPLE HOW TO HAVE
THEIR ANIMALS TESTED AND JUST TRY TO STOP THIS.
IT’S GOING TO SPREAD EVENTUALLY. BUT WE CAN REALLY CURTAIL THAT
SPREAD.>>Jay: EDUCATION IS KEY.
>>YES.>>Jay: FINALLY, THE WHOLE
REMOVING OF PROTECTIONS FOR ELEPHANTS GETTING NATIONAL NEWS.
I SEE ON YOUR FACEBOOK PAGE SOME POSTINGS.
THE PRESIDENT HAS –>>UNUSUAL MOVE, THE PRESIDENT
OVERRODE THE DECISION OF THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE.
AT LEAST TEMPORARILY. UNTIL THEY CAN TAKE ANOTHER LOOK
AT IT. IT IS A COMPLEX ISSUE.
HSUS AND ZOO MONTANA, CONSERVATION CENTER, ARE
INVOLVED IN ELEPHANT CONTRACEPTION.
WE HAVE THAT.>>Jay: A BAN AGAINST BRINGING
ELEPHANT PARTS.>>BAN FROM BRINGING IN PARTS,
THE HUNTING COMMUNITY — THE TROPHY COMMUNITY I SHOULD SAY IS
SAYING THAT THEIR DOLLARS ARE NECESSARY TO PROMOTE
CONSERVATION. AND THE OTHER COMMUNITY IS
SAYING, YOU KNOW IT’S REALLY TOURISM DOLLARS THAT DRIVE
PROTECTING THE ELEPHANTS. IT IS COMPLEX.
BUT WE’RE HAPPY PRESIDENT TRUMP TOOK THE TIME TO LOOK AT THIS
AND THEN MADE A STATEMENT, AND WE THINK IT WILL COME DOWN ON A
WHAT’S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE ANIMAL, REALLY OUR GOAL.
>>Jay: DAVE, THANK YOU SO MUCH.>>YOU BET, JAY, PLEASURE.
>>Jay: WE’LL TOUCH BASE WHEN YOU GET BACK TO PUERTO RICO FOR
A THIRD TIME. DAVE PAULI FROM THE U.S. HUMANE
SOCIETY, HERE ON “FACE THE STATE.”
FASCINATING MORNING DISCUSSION. HOPE YOU ENJOYED IT.
WE’LL TALK TO YOU SOON.

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