Gokturk Empire – Nomadic Civilizations DOCUMENTARY

Gokturk Empire – Nomadic Civilizations DOCUMENTARY


The Turkic peoples are most well known in
the West for the establishment of the great Ottoman Empire, which lasted over half a millennium,
functioning as the antagonist in Christian Western Europe’s historical story. Almost
a thousand years earlier, the first Turkic state to use the term in a political manner
burst onto the scene in a dramatic way, and formed the great Empire of the Gökturks.
After rising to power in the middle of the sixth century, the Gökturks became one of
the most powerful nomadic groups before the rise of the Mongols. Welcome to our first
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we must first examine a few of the mythological origin stories of the people that ruled them,
emerging from the deep, remote expanse of the Eastern Steppe. Unfortunately, we have
few written records of the nomadic Turks themselves, but Chinese sources such as the Chou Shu and
Pei-shih give us a glance, from a settled civilisation’s point of view, of what the
origins of the Turks were perceived to be. With slight modifications between each text,
this so-called ‘Legend of the Grey Wolf’ goes like this: After a devastating raid on
his home village, a young surviving boy is mutilated, and then thrown into a marsh by
the attackers, and is left to die. The boy then encounters a she-wolf which nurses the
injured child back to health and acts as a parent. After living in a cavern for some
years, the wolf is impregnated by the now young-man, and subsequently gives birth to
ten half-human half-wolf boys. Several generations later, the first Turkic people emerge from
the cavern and eventually become blacksmiths of the Juan-Juan, otherwise known as the Rouran,
or Avar Khaganate. Another legend is preserved only in isolated
collections compiled around 860, known as the Yu yang tsa-tsu. The ancestor of the Turks
in this legend, known as She-mo-she-li, lives in a cavern, and has a relationship with the
daughter of a lake spirit. One day, as the Turks prepare for a hunt, the lake spirit’s
child states that if She-mo manages to kill a white deer with golden horns by arrow, she
will remain with him forever, but if he misses it, their relationship would end.
During the hunt, it is instead one of She-mo’s followers who kills the deer instead, and
is subsequently decapitated by the chief. For taking the daughter away from She-mo,
a tradition begins by which the descendants of the follower are decapitated in human sacrifice.
Moving from implausible legend to political reality, the Turks first dominantly emerged
onto the scene in the year 552AD, the same year Narses won the Battle of Taginae against
his Ostrogothic enemies in the west during the Restoration of Justinian – we have covered
that in our previous videos. In Central Asia, Bumin, leader of the Gökturks, translated
popularly as the ‘Celestial Turks’, subdued a revolt for his Rouran overlords, and asked
as a reward for a daughter of the ruling tribe in marriage. However, the khagan refused this
request on the grounds that Bumin’s people were just ‘Blacksmith slaves’, and therefore
were unworthy of the honour. There is a large amount of evidence that Bumin’s
Turks actually were originally a group of metallurgists involved in the industries of
mining and processing iron, and that the aforementioned ‘caverns’ of Turk mythology were in fact
mines, where they worked in service of the Rouran. Nevertheless, the refusal infuriated
Bumin, and he led a revolt which dethroned the last Rouran Khagan and drove the remainder
west, where they possibly became the Pannonian Avars.
The Gökturk Khaganate was born, ruled by the Ashina clan, with Bumin its first high
ruler. The founder’s reign was not an extensive one, as he died in the same year, to be succeeded
by a son known as Kuo-lo, who ruled only for a scant few months before he too died. Kuo-lo’s
successor Muhan did not die immediately, becoming khagan in late 553 and quickly eradicating
any remnant of the old Rouran. The gigantic nature of the Gökturk realm
could not be managed from one single location, by just one single man. So, an informal division
of power occurred in which the late Bumin’s brother, known as Istami, would rule the western
segment of the khaganate as a yabghu, essentially a subordinate lord located in a traditional
nomadic camp near Karashahr. While this western sub-realm was mostly autonomous and independent
in practice, Istami was still under the nominal and symbolic sovereignty of the main imperial
Ashina dynasty in the east, the line of Bumin. Muhan ruled the titanic eastern regions probably
from the area of modern Mongolia, the heart of the empire where the legendary wolf cavern
and sacred lands of Turkic ancestry were located. Therefore, almost from the moment it was created,
the Gökturk realm was a ‘bicephalous’ entity, containing two centres of power in
the east and west. Now with two centres of power and two practical
rulers, the Turkic Khaganate could embark on blistering military conquests from multiple
angles, and set to doing so with great speed. In the east, the direct Ashina line subjugated
two primary rival nomadic nations. The first of them was the Khitans, a proto-Mongolic
people inhabiting areas northeast of China, who would play a key role in later centuries.
In addition, they absorbed the fearsome Kyrgyz people into their state, tribes which would
eventually give their name to the modern nation state of Kyrgyzstan.
We know of the deeds of Istami and the Western Turks in more detail because they dealt with
the record-keeping civilisations of the west more frequently, such as Eastern Rome and
the Persians. As we discussed in our episode on the White Huns, it was a deadly alliance
between the Gökturk Yabghu Istami and Persian Shah Khosrau which finally crushed the once-hegemonic
Hephthalite Empire between 557 and 561, finally bringing about a common border between the
two states. All seemed well and peaceful, but then some
time before 568, the Turks sent a commercial expedition of Sogdian merchants, led by a
man named Maniakh, to Persia, in order to request permission to sell Gökturk-acquired
silk in the Sassanid Empire. In essence, the Turks wanted to usurp control of the ever-lucrative
silk trade which had previously been dominated by the Hephthalites. The Persians purchased
the silk but then, in what was intended as an offensive gesture, intentionally burned
it in front of the merchants. This was the start of trouble for both peoples.
In a second attempt to open relations, the Turks sent another mission to Persia, this
time actually consisting of native Turkic merchants. However, in violation of the traditional
law of diplomatic immunity, they were then murdered by the Persians, an act which led
to a war between the Khaganate and the Persian Empire. It reminds one of the act committed
by the Khwarezmian governor of Otrar before Genghis Khan destroyed his realm.
Sassanid Persia was more fortunate, and war eventually ended in around 571 in a stalemate,
because the Turks could not dislodge the Sassanids from a chain of border fortresses. Despite
this though, things remained tense. Advised by their new, commerce-focused Sogdian vassals,
the Gökturks then attempted to bypass Persia entirely and establish links with the main
recipient of silk directly – Byzantium. The first embassies from the Gökturks reached
them in 558, seeking the return of the Avars who had not yet submitted, and a trade alliance
with the Romans. In the year 568, Maniakh – now serving as an emissary to the Romans
– brought a more substantial trade delegation, and was received by Emperor Justin II, who
was extremely interested in this new enemy of Persia because his empire, also, was an
enemy of Persia. On the return journey, Maniakh was accompanied
by a Byzantine counter-embassy, led by a strategos called Zemarkhos, which was well received
by the ruling Turkic chief. A later embassy in 572 was more bitterly received, as the
Romans were accused of harbouring the fugitive Avars, who the Turks considered their own
rebellious subjects. The nineteen year-long reign of Khagan Muhan
ended in that same year, and left the throne to his brother Taspar. Taspar soon converted
to Buddhism, which was one of the most successful proselytizing faiths in Central Asia, and
was immensely popular among steppe peoples. Having done so, Khagan Taspar undertook a
wide-ranging programme of monastery construction and sponsoring the translation of Buddhist
texts, probably from Chinese into Sogdian and Turkic, so that his own people could utilise
them more easily. These enlightened, scholarly activities continued under the rule of Taspar’s
brother Nivar, who seems to have controversially taken the Gökturk throne in a kurultai during
581. While under his supervision the imperial court
became an important centre of Buddhist learning in the region, seeds of division were sown
which were to prove fatal. After Taspar died, Muhan’s son Apa had expected the reigns
of power to fall to him next, and was far from happy that Nivar had seized the Gökturk
Khaganate for himself. Seeking allies to help him reclaim his perceived birthright, Apa
went to the western territories where the subordinate Ashina rulers made their home.
In the years since the now-dead Istami conquered the Hephthalites and made contact with Rome,
the title of yabghu in the west had fallen to a son known as Tardu. The angered Ashina
claimant to the Eastern Turk throne made an alliance with Tardu in order to unseat Nivar,
but the latter probably saw an opportunity to claim the whole khaganate for himself.
And so, the Gökturk Civil War, also known as the Turkic Interregnum, began. This combined
western army marched east in an attempt to quickly defeat Nivar, and managed to gain
some initial victories. It seemed like they would win, but then Nivar accepted the suzerainty
of his father in law – Emperor Wen of the Sui dynasty, who had recently reunified China
after centuries of division. With troops and support from the great empire in the east,
Nivar sent his attackers back to where they came from.
Unfortunately for the ambitious Tardu, Apa – son of Muhan – greatly desired a realm of
his own to rule and, because of the failure to dislodge Nivar, and a subsequent dispute
about Silk Road trading rights, turned on his erstwhile ally. Tardu was chased from
his own western domain and Apa then established what would become known as the Western Turkic
Khaganate, a now fully independent state which was separate from Nivar’s east. Tardu fled
as far as the Chinese court in 585, and is invisible in history for a few years, until
we see a letter from him written to Byzantine emperor Maurice declaring himself the ‘lord
of the seven races, master of the seven climes’. Unfortunately, he disappears from history
entirely in 603, never to be seen again. This turmoil within the Ashina clan was the
end of any true unity that the Gökturk Khaganate might ever have possessed, and it was now
fully divided into eastern and western halves, a state of affairs which the Chinese expertly
exploited to their own benefit. We’ll briefly go over the fate of the east first. In the
words of Chinese Sui Shu, ‘The Turks prefer to destroy each other rather than to live
side-by-side. They have 1,000, nay 10,000 clans who are hostile and kill one another.’
Most of the short lived Chinese imperial dynasties since 551 had chosen to pay the Turks off.
Trade concessions which were essentially the equivalent of paying tribute were granted,
with both Khagans Muhan and Taspar receiving a staggering 100,000 pieces of valuable Chinese
silk per year from the Northern Zhou in return for just a few horses.
When the Tang assumed the Mandate of Heaven in 618, constant attempts were made to persuade,
or bribe Western khagans to keep their more threatening eastern cousins occupied as the
Tang strengthened. The final defeat of the Eastern Turks came through direct military
defeat when, in the reign of Emperor Taizong, the forces of Khagan Hsieh-li were totally
crushed; the Turk ruler was taken prisoner and died in China. The Eastern Turks were
now dependent on the Tang. Meanwhile in the west, Khagan Apa didn’t
live long enough to enjoy fulfilling his aim of ruling his own realm. In a war with his
eastern neighbors, Apa was taken prisoner by Nivar’s successor and disappears from
history. His successor in the western khaganate was Ni-li, a mysterious figure about whom
not much is known. We do know that Turko-Persian conflict was ongoing, because this nomadic
leader might have been the one Armenian historian Sebeos describes as being killed in battle
by Persian general Bahram Chobin in 589. Khagan Tong who succeeded him continued Turkic
interference in Iranian affairs by embarking on an alliance with the Persians’ Byzantine
rival, with whom the Persians were embroiled in the famous 602-628 war. The Turks had demanded
immense tribute in return for this military aid, and it was probably in part due to this
that a Chinese visitor to the Western Gökturk court – Hsuan-tsang, was awed by the splendour
of it, something not usually expected of the stereotypically austere nomads.
While the reign of Khagan Tong was the brief golden age of the Western Gökturk Empire,
it didn’t last. After his death in 628, possibly at the hands of his mutinous Karluk
vassals, the realm fragmented into a number of other, weaker polities, including On Oq,
or the ‘Ten Arrows’. This state of affairs, possibly aided by intervention from the Chinese,
allowed the Tang dynasty to march west and conquer the western khaganate in 657. After
this, Emperor Taizong declared himself Khagan of the Turks, and the last Western Khagan
was buried on Chinese soil, just as his eastern cousin had been.
The Gökturks did not do well under Tang rule, and they quickly began to resent resettlement
and servitude within the settled empire of the Chinese. Almost a century later, the author
of an ancient Turkic inscription describes disapprovingly of how their leaders abandoned
their own traditional titles and instead obeyed the Chinese emperor like slaves. This continued
for around five decades, from 630 to 680, years remembered as a time of shame, degradation
and humiliation of a once proud and dominant people. The worst outrage, it is said, was
the ‘blood tribute’, an obligation to fight in Tang wars of imperial expansion,
of which a passage states: ‘Your blood flowed like a river; your bones were heaped up like
a mountain, your bey-like sons became slaves; your lady-like daughters became servants’.
A pressure point was reached in the year 679 when a two-year long Turk revolt broke out.
Though it was unsuccessful, a detachment of Turks under Ilterish fled into the Gobi desert
and established themselves in the Yin Shan Mountains. Successful raids were carried out
against the Tang in Shanxi between 682 and 687, and [Ilterish] proclaimed himself Khagan
in that year, establishing the Second Turkic Khaganate. Bursting forth from the Yin Shan
Mountain range, Ilterish’s battle-hardened army retook the Turk heartland, and subjugated
the Uyghur and other tribes which had occupied it.
The initially powerful Second Khaganate waged wars and exacted tribute from Chinese rulers
such as Wu Zetian, but it was a short-lived empire, and ceased to exist in the year 745
when its subordinated tribes rebelled, replaced by a Uyghur confederation which would eventually
interfere in China in its own right. While the mighty ‘Celestial Turk’ Empires
of the sixth to eighth-century were but one series in a multitude of nomadic states emerging
from the steppe, they had profound impacts which would ripple across the region and beyond
forever after. This emergence of the Ashina clan-led Turks onto the scene in their more
overt, dominant form essentially made Turkic languages and culture hegemonic on the steppe.
Moreover, the sheer military power wielded by the Gökturk Khagans was unmatched since
the days of the ancient Xiongnu, and would not be equalled again until the great Mongol
conquests. Perhaps the most enduring impact on and of
the Turks would be their relation to Islam. Within a short time of the Muslim conquests,
numerous steppe Turks brought to prominence by the Gökturks would convert to the new
faith and eventually become crucial factors in the Muslim world, ending up as mamluk slave
soldiers, and eventually rising to create Turkic dynasties of their own, such as the
Ghaznavids and eventually the Seljuks, but that is for later. Finally, the disintegration
of central authority in the Western Gökturk Khaganate led to a prominent tribe in the
far western fringe, the Khazars, establishing their own autonomy and a long-lasting empire,
the exploits of which shall be the subject of our next episode.
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100 thoughts on “Gokturk Empire – Nomadic Civilizations DOCUMENTARY

  1. Big thanks to Ridge for sending us a couple of wallets and supporting the channel! Here’s the site if you want to check them out! > ridge.com/KNG
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  2. You have missed Kurshad an iconic figur and a hero, with 40 person He charge into chinese emperor palace on a rainy day. You should look into that as well. Good work

  3. The Ashina ruling clan of the Gökturks was most probably or Saka (Iranian origin). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashina_tribe
    What is missing in this Video (and unfortunately in many other videos concerning the Sassanid Military Skills) is, that the Sassanid actually defeated the Gökturks heavily in two wars.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Perso-Turkic_War
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Perso-Turkic_War

  4. Being of turkic descend, i am not aware of my history much. Thank you for this, although i have mixed feelings about the wolf stuff.

  5. Bu Türkçe çevirileri kim yapıyorsa, rezalet çeviriyor. Hem İngilizceye hem de Türkçeye hakim olmayan yapmasın çeviri falan. Google translateten alip yazmakla olmuyor…

  6. So the Turks have been Tanri Shamanists,Buddists,Judaic,Islamic,Orthodogs,Roman Chatolics and ech of them had its own Turkic empire.
    Man the Turks changes Reloguion like we change Cars.But when they choose a religion they are Loyal to it, will keep it untill death. That is the main reason the Turks fighted echother untill one was death,the other Victoriuos.

  7. One of 16 GREAT TURKISH STATE!

    🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷💪💪💪💪💪🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

  8. My tribe was called "Bozok" among the turks. We are currently living in the west of Azerbaijan. Tengri Menen, Brothers! Auuuuuuuu says the she wolf. Bye.

  9. Foreigners know nothing about glorious Turkish- Turk history. When foreigners say Turkish history, they think only of the Ottoman state and they think that Turkish history began with the Ottoman State. Known Turkish history dates back 2500-3000 years.And they think the Turks are Arabs(İt makes us see that they are ignorant😁) Turks spread all over the world from Central Asia . So the first Turks are slant-eyed.İn other words, Central Asia is the motherland of all Turks.The Turks found a lot of events that changed the history of the world. (Avars , Sakalar , great (Asian) Hun state , European Hun State ,great Seljuk state, Anadolu selcuklu State, 1. Göktürk State, 2. Göktürk state, Uyghur state, and many more glorious Turkish States ) And now 300 million Turks live in the world. To all the ignorant and those who don't know history, let this video be a nice answer…! 🇹🇷♥️🇦🇿♥️🇰🇿♥️🇰🇬♥️🇺🇿♥️🇹🇲♥️🇭🇺♥️🇨🇾 😉

  10. Asia Hunnic Khaganate > Gokturks Khaganate > Uyghur Khaganate > Karakhanid Khaganate(First Turkic state which convert to İslam) > Oghuz Yabgu state > Seljuk Empire > Ottoman Empire > Republic Of Turkey ( Of course, these states are part of the Turkish states, but these states are the ancestors of the Anatolian Turks.)

  11. https://youtu.be/bcoWHAP_JlE
    A film series coming From Alper Çağlar and Prof. Dr Ahmet Taşağıl about our ancestors-Göktürks-

  12. The translation of "Göktürk" as "Celestial Turks" is nowadays known to be wrong even though "Gök" means "Sky".
    It rather comes from the Turkish word "Kök" which means "Root"…

  13. Do you know what THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH because yo u introduce us clearly and as what we really are so many people recognize us as an arab or persian we are the Turks hwo came from the steppes of asia ı really RESPECT you

  14. Beyler bunun gibi Türk tarihi için önemli videoları, Türkiyede bulamıyoruz. Kanalın sahibi translateden çeviri yapmış herhalde. Bi Allahın kulu şu videoyu adam akıllı çevirsin, millet çoluk çocuk adam akıllı izlesin öğrensin tarihini. ( İngilizcem az oldugu için ben çeviremiyorum. )

  15. The Turks established in total 19 Empires,states,Khanats,4 Sultanates in 2500 years time.
    In 2019 there are 9 Turkic States in the World,manymore Autonomius regions.

  16. "Nomadic civilizations"…
    There is no such thing. Please don't play their game. If nomadic lifestyle was equal to the settled, they would have never had to settle.
    Nomadic people cannot be civilized, it is the complete opposite.

    They could never have a sustainable large-scale production of food, without agriculture. They could never have large populations, they couldn't have ever developed industry of any kind. Not even proper hygiene was possible.
    Warrior-hunter tribes were not self-sustainable. That's why they had to conquer agricultural, settled peoples, and leach on their produce, by offering them "protection"

  17. They were problems to everyone as a nomads and they are a problem today after being civilized, no wonder why the Chinese gone through so much treble in building a wall to keeping them away

  18. Like it when the characters on the writer's headwear read "Subscribe to Kings and Generals" 01:58 – very subtle niceeee

  19. Ancient Kyrgyz people stayed in Yenisei. Then, after they crushed Uyghurs in 840, they created the Kyrgyz Khaganate. They even had their own runic alphabet (It differed a bit from Orkhon ones).

  20. There is subtle reference to Ottoman Empire by Mehteran music at thr background…Thus the rulers Turkicness can be disputed,inital settlers may not.

  21. There are 2 nomadic tribes. Turks and Mongols .. Turks left their mark in every period of history with the name of Hun. The Mongols founded only the Mongol Empire. and the Turks were the majority in the Mongolian Empire's army.(i am not turk i am circassian)

  22. All Turks was go another place and we happened more unpowerful. Today we are Turkey,Azerbaijan,Kyrgyzistan,Kazakhistan,Ozbekistan,Turkmenistan and North Cyprus Turkish Republic. If we Unite Again like Asian Hun Empire, First Turkic Khaganate (First Gokturks) or Second Turkic Khaganate (Second Gokturks) we can be Great Powerfull Cauntry. We can make Turan, We can make Great Turkestan. And we can save Other Turks from China and Russias Assimilation.

  23. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashina_Jiesheshuai
    The story of the revolution when Göktürks where slavened (like mentioned in the vid)The Chinese called him Ashina jiesjeshuai( Ashina=Asena= she Wolf) while the Göktürks called him Kür-Şad

  24. I didn't even know incest bestiality was a thing. But then that's the Chinese telling of the tale – er – tail. Puns are like Huns – they've brought DREAD to MANY – but I don't apologize FUR it. I'll be appearing on various Youtube comment pages all week, folks… THANKYOU, you're beautiful!

  25. 🇹🇷🇦🇿🇺🇿🇹🇲🇰🇿🇭🇺🇰🇬🇵🇰🤘🦝🦝🦝🦝☝️☝️☝️ sizi sevmeyen ölsün ❤❤

  26. Gokturks and Goguryeo fought many wars together as allies. Even when the Gokturks fell and headed west, Goguryeo kept in contact and the alliance continued as evidence of Goguryeo envoys were found in Uzbekistan. Even during the Korean War, Turkey helped Korea as one of the UN nations. Brothers for life.

  27. Nice try but including these myths so prominently only helps highlight average person’s attention span which are reflected in the comments section. I read a number of book on the subject and these creation myths are not even mentioned. One thing we can agree that “Turk” as brand has proven to be quite resilient. Another important part that this clip failed to mention is the ethnic composition of Turks. Records indicate Turks were a mix of multi racial peoples right from the beginning. In that sense they are the ultimate Eurasian people. But when one looks at today’s map and finds that the original homeland of ancient Turks was in present day Mongolia the immediate talk is about a mongoloid appearance which is not exactly accurate. Both the first Turkic Asina clan and the first rules what appears to be Indo-Iranian names. So reality is much more complex but just as people have difficulty comprehending, say, 32 great grandparents a few generations back they have similar difficulties accepting, say, 1024 ancestors with varying caucasian and mongoloid features scattered across the wide plains of Eurasia.

  28. In fact,Gokturk in north to China,is Mongolian race,not white,but they conquered the nomadic tribes of the Skittians in Central Asia and forced them to speak Turkic, of which the Turks were one. Therefore, Turky‘s Turks always like to lie and claim that Turks are white,to steal real Turks Glory.
    Genetically, the Skittians are the true ancestors of Turks, so Turky‘s Turks look like white people the same as Persians.
    In fact, the Gokturk was very similar to that of the Mongolians and Chinese. They are East Asian race.
    Turky‘s Turks are the nomadic white people conquered by the western Gokturk empire——Skittians, and the eastern Gokturk empire has almost no white blood, Turkish culture has always been a totally kind of east Asian culture before the Seljuk empire

  29. After Gökturk Uygur Turks entered. In west you had Bulgars and a lot others then Khazars then Selcuks.

    Avars who can only have been Turks or maybe mongols created huge empire in europé. They were all across europé especially hungary and balkans.

  30. why the fuck are all turkic and gokturk represented all as arab,middle easterners? Those empires arose from South siberians Turkic. They looked nothing like these guys. ancient tombs of from the Goturk areas have been excavated they were almost all 9 out of 10 had mongoliod features with 1 Eurpiod. Ever wondered why turks would speak a langaugage thats had origins from South siberia and not Indo-european like the iranians?

  31. 𐰇𐰓:𐱅𐰭𐰼𐰃:𐰖𐰽𐰺:𐰚𐰃𐰾𐰃:𐰆𐰍𐰞𐰃:𐰸𐰆𐰯:𐰇𐰠𐰏𐰠𐰃:𐱅𐰇𐰼𐰇𐰢𐰾

    Öd Teŋri aysar kişi oglı köp ölgeli törümüs
    Tengri prescribes the time, all human beings are born in order to die
    -Bilge Kaghan

  32. I am from Afshar tribe of Turks, my tribe was one of the last to settle from nomadic life.
    My tribe fought against the Ottomans because they forced us to settle, our story is still quite popular and our people are very respected in Western Turkey as they have become a local legend.
    it's true about Turks wanting to fight other Turks, we have a saying. "A Turk does not have a friend other than another Turk, also doesn't have a (worthy) enemy, other than another Turk."

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