Have Your Say – October 7, 2019 | Vote 2019

Have Your Say – October 7, 2019 | Vote 2019


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Canadians>>Mark: JUSTIN TRUDEAU MEETS WITH ONTARIO TEACHERS. ANDREW SCHEER PROMISES FREE ADMISSION TO NATIONAL MUSEUMS. AND SIX FEDERAL PARTY LEADERS PREPARE FOR TONIGHT’S ENGLISH-LANGUAGE DEBATE. IT’S TIME TO “HAVE YOUR SAY.” WELCOME TO THE SHOW. I’M MARK SUTCLIFFE. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. IT IS DEBATE DAY. TONIGHT, FEDERAL PARTY LEADERS TAKE THE STAGE IN GATINEAU, QUEBEC AT THE MUSEUM OF HISTORY FOR THE FIRST AND ONLY OFFICIAL ENGLISH-LANGUAGE DEBATE. THERE ARE SIX PARTICIPANTS, THERE ARE FIVE MODERATORS AND 12 LANGUAGES AVAILABLE. TOPICS RANGE FROM THE ECONOMY TO THE ENVIRONMENT, INDIGENOUS ISSUES, HUMAN RIGHTS AND GLOBAL LEADERSHIP. AND YOU CAN WATCH IT ALL ON CPAC. WE WILL HAVE EXTENSIVE COVERAGE BEGINNING AT 5:00 EASTERN TIME WITH A SPECIAL EDITION OF “HAVE YOUR SAY” TO COME AFTER THE DEBATE TONIGHT. WE’RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING YOUR REACTION TO WHAT THE LEADERS SAY ON THAT STAGE IN GATINEAU TONIGHT. TODAY ON “HAVE YOUR SAY,” WE ARE ASKING YOU WHAT DO YOU WANT TO HEAR IN THE LEADERS DEBATE? CALL US AT 1-877-296-2722. OR TWEET US… ALSO SEND US AN EMAIL AT [email protected] WE ASK CANADIANS WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE IN TONIGHT’S DEBATE. HERE’S A LOOK AT WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY…>>I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT REAL ISSUES AND I’M REALLY TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT HE DID THIS AND HE DID THAT. I DON’T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IT ANYMORE. I DON’T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THE LAVAL CASE ANYMORE. I DON’T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT TRUDEAU WEARING A BLACKFACE. I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT REAL ISSUES. I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT CLIMATE, HEALTH CARE, HOW WE’RE GOING TO GET THE ECONOMY GOING, HOW WE’RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HELP PEOPLE. I WANT THAT TO BE THE FOCUS. I WANT TO HEAR THE DETAILS AND I WANT TO SEE LEADERSHIP.>>THE ENVIRONMENT’S PRETTY IMPORTANT TO ME, THAT’S ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT — I HAVE THREE YOUNGER CHILDREN, THAT’S ALWAYS SOMETHING TOP OF MY LIST.>>I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR HOW THE CANDIDATES WOULD HELP THE ECONOMY PROSPER IN CANADA, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW THEY WOULD PROVIDE SOME FUNDING FOR SOME OF THE SOCIAL PROGRAMS FOR THOSE WHO DON’T HAVE AS MANY MEANS AND TO HELP THEM TO GET OUT OF POVERTY.>>AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE. I REALLY — I’M REALLY JUST ABOUT FED UP WITH ALL THE PROMISES AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND NO DELIVERY.>>I WANT TO HEAR SOMETHING ABOUT THE ECONOMY. I FEEL LIKE TAX IS TOO HIGH RIGHT NOW. I FEEL LIKE THE COST OF LIVING IS GOING UP EXTREMELY HIGH AND IT’S GETTING TO A POINT WHERE YOU’RE GOING TO NEED TWO OR THREE JOBS JUST TO EVEN KEEP UP OR STAY AFLOAT.>>Mark: SO THAT’S WHAT SOME CANADIANS ARE SAYING. WE’RE INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM YOU RIGHT NOW. GIVE US A CALL, SEND YOUR COMMENTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA USING THE #CPACvote2019 AND WE WILL BE HEARING FROM YOU AFTER THE DEBATE TONIGHT ON CPAC AS WELL. JOINING US FOR OUR DISCUSSION THIS HOUR, FREELANCE JOURNALIST JUSTIN LING AND CONTRIBUTOR TO iPOLITICS KADY O’MALLEY, WELCOME TO YOU BOTH.>>HI THERE. HAPPY DEBATE DAY.>>Mark: YES, SAME TO YOU. IN A COUPLE MINUTES, WE’RE EXPECTING TO HEAR FROM LIBERAL CANDIDATE STEVEN McKINNON MAKING AN ANNOUNCEMENT. WE DON’T KNOW WHEN IT’S ABOUT BUT WE WILL GO TO IT WHEN IT HAPPENS AND IN THE MEANTIME WE’LL TALK ABOUT THE DEBATE. KADY, WHAT DO YOU THINK HAS A LOT AT STAKE TONIGHT –>>I WOULD SAY IN I HAD TO PICK, IT’S KIND OF A THREE-WAY TIE. I WOULD SAY THAT ANDREW SCHEER REALLY HAS TO KIND OF — HE WAS IN A BIT OF A SLUMP LAST WEEK, HIS PERFORMANCE AT THE TVA FRENCH-LANGUAGE DEBATE WAS NOT SEEN AS PARTICULARLY COMPELLING. I FEEL LIKE LEADING INTO THIS DEBATE WEEK, YOU HAVE ANOTHER FRENCH-LANGUAGE DEBATE ON THURSDAY, HE NEEDS A GOOD NIGHT. HE NEEDS A GOOD NIGHT WHERE EVERYONE SAYS WHOA, THAT ANDREW SCHEER. AND I WOULD SAY MAXIME BERNIER, THIS IS PRETTY MUCH HIS ONLY CHANCE AT HAVING A NATIONAL PLATFORM AND NATIONAL AUDIENCE. WHAT’S INTERESTING IS YOU’VE KIND OF GOT THOSE TWO LEADERS ARE ALMOST GOING TO BE IN CONFLICT OF EACH OTHER COMPETING FOR, FIRST OF ALL, THE SAME VOTE BUT ALSO FOR THAT TIME. I HAVE TO SAY GIVEN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON STAGE AND THE NUMBER OF MODERATORS AND THE FACT THAT IT’S ONLY TWO HOURS, I AM REALLY — I HAVE TO SAY I WILL BE PLEASANTLY SURPRISED IF WE GET MUCH IN TERMS OF ACTUAL CROSS-WAY DEBATE BETWEEN THE LEADERS. LOGISTICALLY, I’M NOT SURE THAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN.>>Mark: YEAH. THERE WILL BE ALMOST FOUR TIMES AS MANY PEOPLE ON THE STAGE AT THE DEBATE TONIGHT AS THERE ARE RIGHT NOW ON THIS SHOW WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME AVAILABLE TO THEM.>>YES.>>Mark: JUSTIN, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT?>>I THINK EACH LEADER HAS A VERY, VERY DIFFERENT STRATEGY THEY HAVE TO USE GOING INTO THIS. JAGMEET SINGH NEEDS TO CONTINUE THE MOMENTUM HE’S BUILDING FOR HIMSELF. ELIZABETH MAY NEEDS TO REVERSE HER SLIDE, SOME POLL NUMBERS SHE’S SHE’S FADING INTO OBSCURITY. JUSTIN TRUDEAU, I THINK NEEDS TO STAY ALIVE, ANDREW SCHEER NEEDS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PLAY DEFENCE. HE GOT CLOBBERED ON TVA LAST WEEK. EVERYBODY WAS OUT FOR BLOOD FOR HIM. HE GOT ABSOLUTELY BEAT UP. AND TO THAT END, YVES-FRANÇOIS BLANCHETTE NEEDS TO DRAW BLOOD. HE WANTS TO KNEECAP EVERY OTHER PERSON IN ORDER TO MAKE HEADLINES IN LA PRESS AND THE JOURNAL TOMORROW. SO EVERYONE HAS A DIFFERENT OBJECTIVE GOING IN. IT’S GOING TO BE IMPOSSIBLE TO TELL WHETHER OR NOT ANYONE CAN GET THERE DEPENDING THE PEOPLE ON STAGE AND HOW MUCH STUFF IS FLYING ALL OVER ALL NIGHT.>>Mark: I’LL BE CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE REACTION IS TO THE FORMAT. I MEAN OBVIOUSLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS ABOUT THE LEADERS DELIVERING THEIR MESSAGES AND HELPING CANADIANS DECIDE WHO THEY WANT TO VOTE FOR, BUT THE FORMAT ITSELF WILL OBVIOUSLY BE SCRUTINIZED, KADY, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE’RE DOING IT SINCE THIS COMMISSION WAS STRUCK LED BY FORMER GOVERNOR-GENERAL DAVID JOHNSTON AND I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING IT WAS NOT — THE END RESULT IS NOT UNLIKE WHAT WE HAD BEFORE, EVEN THOUGH THERE’S A LOT OF CHANGE.>>KIND OF WHAT WE HAD WITH THE CONSORTIUM BEFORE OR LEADING UP TO 2015. I HAVE TO SAY AS SOMEONE WHO NEVER SAW THE CONSORTIUM AS THAT BAD AN IDEA, I DON’T MIND THE IDEA OF THE FORM BEING SIMILAR. ONE THING THAT IS DIFFERENT IS THERE’S A LIVE AUDIENCE WHICH I DON’T RECALL IN THE PAST, MOSTLY WITH THE RISK THAT THE AUDIENCE WOULD BE CHEERING OR JEERING AND GETTING OUT OF CONTROL. THAT’S A LITTLE NEW. I THINK THE REALITY IS IF YOU’RE GOING TO PUT A DEBATE AIRED ON EVERY NETWORK IN DIFFERENT TIME ZONES, THIS IS WHAT YOU SEND UP WITH. WE HAVE A LOT OF PARTY LEADERS IN CANADA. WE CAN’T CHOP THEM DOWN AND MAKE IT A TWO-PERSON PRESIDENTIAL-STYLE DEBATE. I THINK THIS IS THE REALITY OF CANADIAN POLITICS, IT’S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A SOMEWHAT CROWDED FORMAT. I WILL BE INTERESTED TO SEE IF THEY’RE ABLE — WHAT I WANT TO SEE IS THE INTERACTION BETWEEN THE CANDIDATES AND THAT COULD BE HARDER TO DO, ESPECIALLY WITH FIVE MODERATORS.>>Mark: RIGHT. ALTHOUGH I’M GOING TO SAY THIS, I RAISED THIS IDEA BEFORE, WE COULD HAVE A SERIES OF ONE-ON-ONE DEBATES BETWEEN THE VARIOUS LEADERS SO TRUDEAU VERSUS SCHEER, SCHEER VERSUS SINGH, MAY VERSUS TRUDEAU.>>THERE’S SO MANY PEOPLE UP THERE.>>Mark: ON DIFFERENT NIGHTS, YOU COULD HAVE A SERIES OF ONE-ON-ONE DEBATES.>> — THEY COULD SORT OF POINT TO THINGS THAT WERE SAID IN THE PREVIOUS DEBATE.>>Mark: YOU DRAW A LOT –>>THE THING WITH THE CONSORTIUM, THE CONSORTIUM IN ITS INFINITE WISDOM DECIDED TO HAVE TWO DEBATES, ONE IN FRENCH AND ONE IN ENGLISH. WE’RE GETTING ROBBED HERE OF ACTUALLY HAVING OTHER DEBATES OF OTHER FORMATS. FINE, HAVE THE ONE MELEE DEBATE WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND MODERATORS BUT LET’S HAVE THE ONE-ON-ONE BETWEEN SCHEER AND TRUDEAU, THE THREE-PERSON OR FOUR-PERSON DEBATE, LET’S HAVE ONE ON CLIMATE CHANGE, A SPECIFIC ISSUE, WE’RE TOTALLY ROBBED OF THAT AND THAT IN PART IS THANKS TO THE FACT THAT JUSTIN TRUDEAU DECIDES TO MICROMANAGE THE DEBATE PROCESS BY CREATING THIS OFFICIAL DEBATE COMMISSIONER.>>Mark: OKAY. WE’RE GOING TO COME BACK TO THE SUBJECT OF TONIGHT’S DEBATES IN JUST A MOMENT. BUT JUST MINUTES AGO, THE LIBERAL PARTY CANDIDATE IN GATINEAU STEVE McKINNON SPOKE AT THE NATIONAL PRESS THEATRE MAKING AN ANNOUNCEMENT ON MISINFORMATION AHEAD OF TONIGHT’S DEBATE. SO LET’S TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT STEVE McKINNON HAD TO SAY — OKAY, WE’RE — ARE WE ABLE TO GO TO THAT NOW? OKAY. WE’RE GOING TO GO TO THAT IN A SECOND BUT BASICALLY THERE’S BEEN A LOT OF POSTURING THAT’S BEEN GOING ON OVER THE COURSE OF THE DAY TODAY. AS WE GET READY FOR THE DEBATE, SO LET’S GO TO SEE WHAT STEVE McKINNON HAD TO SAY JUST MOMENTS AGO ABOUT MISINFORMATION BEFORE TONIGHT’S DEBATE.>>(Voice of Translator): WELCOME TO THE NATIONAL PRESS CENTRE. WE HAVE STEVE McKINNON LIBERAL CANDIDATE FOR GATINEAU WHO WILL MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT PRIOR TO THE ENGLISH LEADERS DEBATE. [ End of Translation ] WITH US TODAY IS MR. STEVE McKINNON WHO WILL MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT BEFORE THE ENGLISH LEADERS DEBATE TONIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MR. McKINNON. HELLO, I’M HERE TODAY BEFORE TONIGHT’S VERY IMPORTANT DEBATE TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE MISINFORMATION AND LIES THAT HAVE BEEN DIRECTED AT THE CONSERVATIVES AND TO UNVEIL THE NEXT LIE. I’LL GIVE YOU MORE DETAILS IN A MOMENT. [ End of Translation ] BORROWING TACTICS FROM THE AMERICAN FAR RIGHT AND FROM REBEL MEDIA BY SPREADING MISINFORMATION ON A VAST SCALE. YOU KNOW, WE’VE SEEN IT REPEATEDLY IN THIS CAMPAIGN. CONSERVATIVES SPREAD A BASELESS CONSPIRACY PUBLISHED IN A BRITISH TABLOID ABOUT A CRIMINAL COMING TO CANADA. IT WAS FALSE. CONSERVATIVES SAID A PRICE ON POLLUTION IS QUOTE PROVEN TO FAIL. IT WAS FALSE. CANADIANS FOR CLEAN PROSPERITY CALLED A CONSERVATIVE AD ABOUT THIS QUOTE HIGHLY DECEPTIVE AND THAT THEIR FIGURES HAVE NO BASIS IN REALITY. LAST WEEK IN THE DEBATE, ANDREW SCHEER COPIED AN AMERICAN TACTIC BY LABELING ANYONE WHO ISN’T A CLIMATE CHANGE DENIER AS A QUOTE CLIMATE HYPOCRITE. IT’S NONSENSE AND IT’S COMPLETELY FALSE. SCHEER EVEN FALSELY CLAIMED IN LAST WEEK’S DEBATE THAT WE WOULD DECRIMINALIZE ALL DRUGS. AGAIN, TOTALLY FALSE. HE MADE IT UP. TODAY, I’M HERE TO ANNOUNCE THAT ANDREW SCHEER IS PLANNING ANOTHER MAJOR LIE TONIGHT. CAN WE PUT THAT ON THE SCREEN, PLEASE. WE HAVE UNCOVERED ANDREW SCHEER’S NEXT PLANNED DEBATE STUNT. [ Voice of Translator ] THE CONSERVATIVES HAVE SET UP A NEW WEBSITE CALLED HIDDEN HOME TAX WHICH THEY WILL LAUNCH TONIGHT DURING THE DEBATE. THE CONSERVATIVES ARE TRYING TO SOW FEAR AMONG VOTERS BY LEADING THEM TO BELIEVE OUR PARTY PLANS TO TAX THEIR HOMES. THEY HAVE SENT OUT MILLIONS OF FALSE LETTERS TO CANADIANS ON THE SUBJECT, THOUSANDS, RATHER, EVEN THOUGH THE CONSERVATIVES KNOW FULL WELL THAT THIS IS NOT TRUE AND IS NOT IN OUR PLATFORM. WE HAVE NEVER THOUGHT OF DOING THAT. THIS IS NOT AN IDEA THAT OUR PARTY BELIEVES IN AND THIS IS NOT AN IDEA THAT OUR PARTY WILL IMPLEMENT. [ End of Translation ] — CALLED hiddenhometax.ca AND THEY WILL LAUNCH IT TONIGHT DURING THE DEBATE. THE CONSERVATIVES ARE TRYING TO SCARE VOTERS INTO THINKING THAT OUR PARTY HAS A PLAN TO TAX THEIR HOME. THEY HAVE SENT OUT THOUSANDS OF FALSE LETTERS TO CANADIANS ABOUT IT, EVEN THOUGH THE CONSERVATIVES KNOW THAT IT IS NOT TRUE. IT’S NOT IN OUR PLATFORM. WE’VE NEVER CONSIDERED IT. IT’S NOT SOMETHING THE LIBERAL PARTY HAS ENDORSED. IT’S NOT SOMETHING THE LIBERAL PARTY WILL ENDORSE. IT IS A BAD IDEA. AND IT IS A LIE. WHAT IS TRUE IS THAT A RE-ELECTED LIBERAL GOVERNMENT WILL MAKE HOME OWNERSHIP ATTAINABLE AND SECURE. LIBERALS WILL PROVIDE UP TO 10% OF THE PURCHASE PRICE OF YOUR FIRST HOME WITH THE FIRST-TIME HOME BUYER INCENTIVE. WE WILL DRIVE PRICES DOWN BY TAXING FOREIGN SPECULATORS WHO BUY HOMES AND THEN LEAVE THEM EMPTY. WE WILL PROTECT FAMILIES WHO ARE BEING PRICED OUT OF EVEN BUYING THEIR FIRST HOME. THE CONSERVATIVE TACTICS IN THIS CAMPAIGN ARE INCREASINGLY DESPERATE. AND WE’RE GOING TO CALL OUT THESE LIES EVERY TIME THEY DO IT. THIS IS PATTERN BEHAVIOUR. AND SCHEER’S DEBATE STUNT TONIGHT WILL NOT WORK. CANADIANS DESERVE BETTER THAN THESE KIND OF AMERICAN MISINFORMATION TACTICS. THIS OCTOBER, CANADIANS HAVE A CHOICE. GO BACKWARD TO THE FAILED POLICIES AND TACTICS OF THE CONSERVATIVES OR CHOOSE FORWARD AND BUILD ON THE PROGRESS THAT WE’VE MADE TOGETHER. MERCI. THANK YOU. I’M HAPPY TO TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS.>>ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? LE DEVOIR.>>(Voice of Translator): MR. McKINNON, ON WHAT ALLEGATIONS IS MR. SCHEER BASING HIS COMMENTS THAT YOU’LL TAX HOMES?>>(Voice of Translator): WHAT I’M SAYING IS THAT THE CONSERVATIVES ARE MAKING UP FACTS. WE DON’T KNOW WHERE IT COMES FROM, BUT THEY’RE MAKING UP FACTS, THEY’RE DISSEMINATING THEM AMONG VOTERS, AND THIS IS THE KIND OF BEHAVIOUR WE THOROUGHLY CONDEMN. THIS IS U.S.-STYLE CONDUCT THAT IS WORTHY ONLY OF POLITICIANS IN THE U.S., THE KIND OF THING WE’VE SEEN IN THE PAST. THESE ARE ALTERNATIVE FACTS THAT THEY’RE TRYING TO DISSEMINATE, AND WHAT IT REVEALS IS THAT THEY’RE GETTING DESPERATE. THE DESPERATION WE’VE SEEN INCREASINGLY AMONG CONSERVATIVES.>>(Voice of Translator): I THINK IT WAS MR. BAINES WHO SHARED A VIDEO IN WHICH MR. SCHEER HAD AN EARLIER POSITION ON TAX CREDITS FOR HOME SCHOOLING AND INDEPENDENT SCHOOLS, A POSITION THAT LATER CHANGED. THERE WERE OTHER CASES. AREN’T YOU GUILTY OF THE SAME THING? YOU’VE ALSO DISSEMINATED THINGS THAT MR. SCHEER SAID IN THE PAST AND THAT HE CAME BACK ON.>>(Voice of Translator): WE’RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE NEVER CONSIDERED DOING, THAT WE WILL NEVER CONSIDER DOING. AND WE BELIEVE THAT IT IS A BAD IDEA. THE CONSERVATIVES ARE SENDING OUT THOUSANDS OF LETTERS AND NOW WE HAVE THE EVIDENCE FROM SOMEBODY VERY SENIOR IN THE I.T. DEPARTMENT THAT SOMEONE IS AGAIN AT THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY PLANNING TO DISSEMINATE FALSE INFORMATION. THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY IS COMPLETELY MAKING THIS UP. THEY ARE MAKING UP FACTS. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF EXAMPLES. I CITED A NUMBER OF EXAMPLES IN MY STATEMENT, AND THERE ARE MANY OTHERS. WE’VE SEEN RICK MERCER BEING — WITH ALLEGATIONS FROM A CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE. WE HAVE SEEN THINGS THAT ARE DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED TO THE TRUTH BEING PUT OUT THERE. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?>>(Voice of Translator): GOOD MORNING. [ End of Translation ]>>Mark: STEVE McKINNON, LIBERAL CANDIDATE IN GATINEAU SPEAKING MINUTES AGO IN THE NATIONAL PRESS THEATRE WHERE HE WAS ALLEGING THAT THE CONSERVATIVES PLAN TONIGHT TO LAUNCH A NEW WEBSITE hiddenhometax.ca, IT SAYS COMING SOON ON IT. THE LIBERALS ARE CLAIMING, IT SEEMS, KADY, THE CONSERVATIVES WILL LAUNCH THIS WEBSITE, REFER TO IT DURING THE DEBATE TONIGHT AND ACCUSE THE LIBERALS OF HAVING SOME TAX THAT THEY WERE GOING TO PUT IN PLACE AND THE LIBERALS ARE SAYING THAT TAX DOESN’T EXIST.>>SO IF THIS IS THE SAME HOME TAX FIGHT THAT THE LIBERALS AND CONSERVATIVES HAVE BEEN HAVING FOR THE LAST TWO-AND-A-HALF WEEKS OR SO IT BASICALLY COMES DOWN WHAT WAS PRESENTED AS A LIBERAL POLICY RESOLUTION, A PROPOSAL THAT WAS GOING TO GO TO CONVENTION THAT WAS SUPPORTED BY A COUPLE OF TORONTO MPs. IT SORT OF LAID OUT SOME OF THE ISSUES RELATING TO HOME OWNERSHIP. ONE OF THE THINGS IT LISTED AS A POSSIBLE OPENING WAS A HEAVY TAX ON BASICALLY HOME FLIPPERS SO IF YOU BOUGHT AND SOLD A HOUSE WITHIN A YEAR, YOU WOULD PAY AN 80% TAX AND THEN IT WOULD GO DOWN AFTER THAT. THE IDEA WAS TO DISCOURAGE HOME FLIPPING IN PEOPLE WHO WERE SORT OF MANIPULATING THE MARKETS THAT WAY. THE LIBERALS THEN CAME OUT AND FELL OVER EACH OTHER TO SAY THIS WAS JUST A PROPOSAL, YEAH, WE HAVE, LIKE ALL PARTIES, A SYSTEM WHERE PEOPLE CAN PUT FORWARD POLICY IDEAS, THIS WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING TO BE IN THE PLATFORM, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS UNDER SERIOUS CONSIDERATION. THE CONSERVATIVES ON THE OTHER HAND JUST KEEP SAYING LOOK, LOOK, IT’S A POLICY PROPOSAL SO I’M GUESSING THIS IS JUST A CONTINUATION OF THAT DISCUSSION OR THAT SORT OF BICKERING OVER WHO’S RIGHT ON THIS POLICY THAT NO ONE WILL ACTUALLY SAY THEY WANT TO BRING IN.>>Mark: RIGHT. JUSTIN, I THINK THIS IS SYSTEMATIC OF EVERYBODY — UNLEASHING PENT-UP ENERGY IN THE HOURS BEFORE THE DEBATE, I DON’T KNOW. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE’S A LITTLE BIT OF THAT GOING ON.>>TO RECAP, THE LIBERALS JUST HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE TO REFUTE A CLAIM THAT HASN’T BEEN MADE YET WHICH THEY SAY ISN’T TRUE.>>Mark: IT’S LIKE — IT’S LIKE MINORITY REPORT.>>IT’S GREAT NAME FOR THIS ELECTION ACTUALLY.>>Mark: PRE-CRIME.>>BUT IN TERMS OF — DOWNRIGHT RIDICULOUS THIS IS HOW THE PARTIES TRY TO PSYCH EACH OTHER OUT. IF THE CONSERVATIVES, AND IT WOULD MAKE PERFECT SENSE, IF THEY WERE PLANNING TO LAUNCH THIS WEBSITE MIDWAY THROUGH THE DEBATE, GIVE ANDREW SCHEER GIVE THE URL, DOING THIS TAKES THE FUN OUT OF IT AND THAT’S ALL AT THE POINT. THIS IS LITERALLY THE ONLY GOAL IS TO DEPRIVE THE CONSERVATIVES OF ONE MOLECULE OF FUN.>>I’M NOT EVEN SURE IT DID THAT. THIS WAS A MIDDAY NEWS CONFERENCE FROM A RELATIVELY BACK BENCH MP. IF ANYTHING, THEY PUT A BIGGER SPOTLIGHT ON THE CLAIM.>>Mark: I MEAN, HOW MANY CANADIANS WHO ARE WATCHING THE DEBATE TONIGHT WILL KNOW THAT STEVEN McKINNON DID THIS ANNOUNCEMENT?>>I MEAN, THEY HAVE A BIT OF A POINT. I THINK USING THE TERM MISINFORMATION IS A LITTLE MUCH IN SOME WAYS, THIS IS REMEMBER POLITICKING, ONE PARTY SAYS THINGS THAT ARE HALF TRUE, THE OTHER ONE — THIS IS AN ELECTION. ANDREW SCHEER’S PARTY DOES HAVE A BIT OF A COMPLEX RELATIONSHIP WITH THE TRUTH IN THAT THEY’RE WILLING TO SAY THINGS THAT AREN’T TRUE. THE REPEATED CLAIMS THAT THE CARBON TAX DOESN’T WORK, REPEATED CLAIMS THAT THE B.C. CARBON TAX HAS FAILED, THOSE THINGS ARE CATEGORICALLY UNTRUE, YET THEY KEEP SAYING THEM. THIS AFTERNOON THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY PUT OUT A PRESS RELEASE, I THOUGHT THIS IS WHAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE, BUT JUST THIS AFTERNOON, THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY PUT OUT A PRESS RELEASE ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT JUSTIN TRUDEAU’S TIME AT THE WEST POINT GREY ACADEMY WHERE HE TAUGHT IN 2001 HEAVILY INVOKING A WHOLE BUNCH OF CONSPIRACY THEORIES THAT HE WAS FIRED OR ASKED TO RESIGN OVER SOME SORT OF IMPROPRIETY. IT’S ALL NONSENSE, THERE’S NO “THE GLOBE AND MAIL” STORY, THIS HAS BEEN INVESTIGATED, NO ALLEGATIONS OF IMPROPRIETY THAT ANYONE CAN FIND BUT THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY IS HAPPY TO TRADE IN THAT WHICH IS NOT GOOD. THIS IS A PROBLEM. ANDREW SCHEER NEEDS TO GET CONTROL OVER HIS PARTY’S DECISION TO GO WITH INNUENDO AND CONSPIRACY.>>Mark: IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF THAT COMES UP AT ALL DURING THE DEBATE TONIGHT.>>THE SUGGESTION FROM THE PRESS RELEASE WAS THAT ANDREW SCHEER SOUNDED LIKE HE WAS GOING TO BRING IT UP. I WOULD BE KIND OF SURPRISED IF HE DID. LAUNCHING THE HIDDEN HOME TAX WEBSITE IS PROBABLY A MUCH LESS POLITICALLY RISKY MOVE JUST BECAUSE CANADIANS IN GENERAL DO NOT TAKE WELL TO POLITICIANS GOING AFTER EACH OTHER ON PERSONAL ISSUES. IT ALWAYS HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH THEIR ABILITY TO DO THE JOB, AND I THINK THERE’S A REAL RISK WHEN YOU GET INTO SORT OF POKING AWAY AT SOMEONE’S PAST. THE LIBERALS WERE ACTUALLY SORT OF –>>AND IT’S NOT TRUE, THAT’S THE PROBLEM.>>THE INSURANCE BROKER STUFF, BUT TECHNICALLY, THOSE WERE REASONABLE QUESTIONS ABOUT SOMETHING THAT DID NOT HAVE A LOT OF LONG-TERM IMPACT.>>Mark: ALL RIGHT. LET’S SEE WHAT OUR VIEWERS THINK. WE’RE VERY INTERESTED IN YOUR OPINIONS ABOUT THE DEBATE TONIGHT, WHAT YOU’RE HOPING TO HEAR, WHAT YOU EXPECT TO HEAR. WILL IT BE A FACTOR IN YOUR DECISION ON WHO TO VOTE FOR ON OCTOBER THE 21st? LET’S TAKE A CALL FROM SARAH IN LAKE COUNTRY, BRITISH COLUMBIA. HELLO, SARAH.>>Caller: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR — THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING MY CALL. WHAT I WOULD WISH TO HEAR TONIGHT IS SOMETHING NEW. LIKE SAME OLD-SAME OLD, YOU KNOW. THEY USED TO DO THINGS YEARS AGO THAT WERE REVOLUTIONARY. NOW WE JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, NEVER DO ANYTHING INNOVATIVE, CREATIVE OR DEEP THINKING. AND I THINK THE ENERGY CORRIDOR IS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP THAT I THINK IS ABSOLUTELY UNBELIEVABLY SMART. AND IT SEEMS LIKE THE NEWS MEDIA AND EVERYBODY ELSE JUST SEEMS TO JUST THROW THAT ASIDE. LIKE THIS IS A GUY THAT’S THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX FOR ONCE, MY GOODNESS. AND I COULD NOT — CANNOT BELIEVE THAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT SCHEER BEING A LIAR WHEN YOU COMPARE HIM TO TRUDEAU. OH, MY GOODNESS. IT’S LIKE GOD AND THE DEVIL. THAT’S THE DIFFERENCE. SO I’M JUST SAYING I THINK WE BETTER PUT SOME LIE DETECTORS ON SOME OF THESE POLITICIANS, ISN’T THAT SAD? ANDWHEN ON EARTH ARE YOU EVER GOING TO GET A PANEL THAT IS PRO-CONSERVATIVE? NEVER, EVER HEAR ANYBODY SAY ANYTHING GOOD ABOUT SCHEER AND HIS PARTY. SO I’M VERY SAD. I THINK, YOU KNOW, AND TRUDEAU COMING ON TODAY TALKING TO THOSE TEACHERS, I SAW IT THIS MORNING, AND I THOUGHT WHAT A SICKLE WHAT HAS CAUSED THIS TO HAPPEN THAT THEY’RE DROPPING ART AND MUSIC AND DRAMA OFF SOME — FROM SOME OF THE SUBJECTS YOU’RE TEACHING IS BECAUSE McGUINTY AND WHAT’S THAT –>>Mark: KATHLEEN WYNNE. I DON’T WANT TO GET TOO FAR INTO THE PROVINCIAL POLITICS HERE BUT SARAH, I THINK YOU MADE YOUR POINT, I APPRECIATE YOUR CALL.>>Caller: I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD –>>Mark: LET’S GO TO JOSEPH IN WINNIPEG. HELLO, JOSEPH. JOSEPH, GO AHEAD.>>Caller: I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A POINT THAT MAXIME BERNIER JUST LOST THE LEADERSHIP FOR THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY BY VERY NEAR MARGIN AND YOU BETTER KEEP CLOSE WATCH ON HIM TONIGHT.>>Mark: WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?>>Caller: I THINK HE’S GONNA WIN.>>Mark: I THINK HE’S GONNA WIN THE DEBATE?>>Caller: YEAH.>>Mark: OKAY. AND WHAT IMPACT DO YOU THINK THAT WILL HAVE ON THE ELECTION?>>Caller: HE GOT REAL SOUND THINGS THAT HE WANTS TO GET ACROSS.>>Mark: OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CALL, JOSEPH. THANK YOU. LET’S GO TO MATTHEW IN FORT NELSON, BRITISH COLUMBIA. HELLO, MATTHEW.>>Caller: HELLO, MARK, THANK YOU AND THE PANEL FOR THE COMMUNICATION, FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY. WHAT I’D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE, THE LEADERS THAT ARE TRYING TO RUN FOR POWER AND REPRESENT US IS THE TRUTH. AND LIKE WHAT WE JUST HEARD IS THE LIBERALS ASKING AND CALLING OUT THE LIES OF THE CONSERVATIVES. WE NEED THAT FROM THE LIBERALS, TOO. BECAUSE THE LIBERALS HAVE BEEN LIARS AS WELL, ELECTORAL REFORM, SAYING THEY’RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND THEN BUYING A PIPELINE. YOU DON’T DESTROY THE WATER AND NATIVE LAND AND POLLUTE AND THEN TRY AND USE THE PROFITS TO PAY FOR IT. AND SO THAT’S WHERE BOTH THE CONSERVATIVES AND LIBERALS PLANS WON’T WORK FOR THE LONG-TERM OF THE FUTURE AND I’M TALKING HUNDREDS OF YEARS INTO THOUSANDS OF YEARS BECAUSE WE’RE ONLY APPROXIMATELY 200 YEARS, I KNOW THE OFFICIAL IS 150 TOO WITH CONFEDERATION BUT CHINA AND INDIA CO-EXISTED WITHOUT OIL AND GAS FOR 5,000 YEARS AND THE NATIVES WITHOUT IT. AND OUR INTERPRETATION OF THE PAST 60 APPROXIMATELY YEARS, WE’VE GOT SERIOUS DAMAGE. IF THEY WANT TO EXPAND IT, ONE-THIRD OF THE WORLD’S LARGEST OILSANDS IN CANADA IS DETRIMENTAL. AND SO IF THEY SPEAK THAT TRUTH AND STOP SIDE STEPPING THEIR ANSWERS, AND SCHEER ALSO REVEALED HIMSELF WITH THE 30-YEAR PLAN, HE GOT HIS CHINESE NAME. HE SAID 30 YEARS IN THE MAKING AS CHINA GAVE HIM A CERTIFICATE AND A NAME, THAT TAKES US BACK TO MULRONEY YEARS SO HE’S CONTINUING THE MULRONEY YEAR PLAN, AND HARPER, WE DON’T WANT MORE HARPER YEARS SO I DON’T AGREE WITH SCHEER AND THEN TAKE OUT THE LIBERALS AND THAT LEAVES ME WITH NDP AS THE STRONGEST FOUNDATION OF A PARTY SUPPORT. AND I’M INVITING THE GREENS TO SUPPORT AND JOIN THEM AS WELL AS EVEN DISGRUNTLED LIBERALS BECAUSE THEY HAVE AS WELL AS THE GREENS AND AS A PLAN, IT’S A NEW ECONOMY, AND THAT’S WHERE THESE GUYS CAN GET OFF THE OIL AND GAS AND WORK IN SOLAR AND WIND MILLS AND ARGUMENTS THAT THOSE AREN’T SUSTAINABLE OR BUILT WELL ENOUGH IS WRONG. IF THEY CAN TO MARS –>>Mark: I’M GOING TO JUMP IN. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR CALL. WE’RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO OTHER CALLS. DEE FROM BELLEVILLE, ONTARIO. HELLO, DEE.>>Caller: HELLO.>>Mark: HI, GO AHEAD.>>Caller: YES, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR SOMETHING NEW FOR A CHANGE. I’M GOING TO BE 62 IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND I’VE BEEN VOTING EVER SINCE I WAS 18 YEARS OLD. AND NEVER, EVER HAVE I EVER HEARD ANYBODY SAY WHAT THEY’RE GOING TO DO FOR THE SINGLE PERSON. THAT WOULD BE NEW TO HEAR TONIGHT. ON WHAT THEY’RE GOING TO DO FOR THE SINGLE PERSON.>>Mark: MEANING YOU HEAR A LOT ABOUT FAMILIES AND ABOUT –>>Caller: YES.>>Mark: — TAX BREAKS AND OTHER INCENTIVES FOR FAMILIES BUT NOT FOR A SINGLE INDIVIDUAL.>>Caller: THAT IS RIGHT.>>Mark: YEAH. THAT’S A FAIR POINT.>>Caller: AS A SINGLE PERSON, WITHOUT A SECOND INCOME, I’M ON THE VERGE OF BEING EVICTED ‘CAUSE I CANNOT AFFORD TO PAY MY RENT.>>Mark: OKAY. DEE –>>Caller: AND I THINK THEY COULD TALK ABOUT THE SINGLE PERSON AND WHAT THEY’RE GOING TO DO FOR US AS WELL AS FAMILIES AND THE FIRST NATIVES, GETTING THEM WATER INTO THEIR — WHERE THE NATIVES CAN LIVE WITH DIGNITY.>>Mark: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CALL, DEE. I APPRECIATE THAT POINT. LET’S TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT CAME UP HERE. KADY, WE SHOULD TALK FOR A MOMENT WHAT HAPPENED IN ONTARIO THE LAST 24 HOURS BECAUSE THERE WAS A DISPUTE BETWEEN THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT IN ONTARIO AND THE UNION REPRESENTING EDUCATION WORKERS, SUPPORT WORKERS, CUSTODIAL STAFF, EARLY EDUCATION PROVIDERS, NOT TEACHERS, BUT OTHERS WHO SUPPORT THEM IN THE SCHOOL ENVIRONMENT. THAT MIGHT HAVE LED TODAY TO SOME SCHOOLS BEING CLOSED. THERE WAS A DEAL THAT WAS REACHED LAST NIGHT, BUT I’M SURE IF THERE HAD NOT BEEN A DEAL REACHED LAST NIGHT AND IF SCHOOLS HAD BEEN CLOSED IN TORONTO AND OTTAWA AND ELSEWHERE TODAY, THAT’S SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE COME UP IN THE DEBATE TONIGHT.>>OH, ABSOLUTELY. AND I THINK YOU CAN EXPECT IT PROBABLY WILL ANYWAY. THE LIBERALS ARE DEFINITELY USING DOUG FORD AS SORT OF THE TERRIFYING EXAMPLE OF WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF CANADIANS WERE TO ELECT A CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENT. THEY HAVE INVESTED A LOT OF SORT OF RESOURCES AND TIME IN THAT. THAT IS WHY I THINK YOU SAW JUSTIN TRUDEAU MEETING WITH TRUDEAU — MR. TRUDEAU MEETING WITH TEACHERS THIS MORNING AND THAT WAS BECAUSE HAD THEY BEEN HEADING OFF TO THE PICKET LINE THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN A MOMENT FOR HIM TO HIGHLIGHT IT WAS ALL DOUG FORD’S FAULT. OF COURSE THAT DIDN’T HAPPEN WHICH IS WHY THE CONSERVATIVES ARE NOW ACCUSING THE LIBERALS OF BEING SAD THAT THE STRIKE WAS AVERTED. IT’S GOTTEN SILLY, TO BE HONEST BUT I THINK THE CORRELATION AND SORT OF THE CONFLUENCE OF WHAT’S GOING ON IN ONTARIO POLITICS VERSUS WHAT’S GOING ON ON THE ONTARIO FEDERAL CAMPAIGN TRAIL, YOU CAN’T UNDERSTATEMENT HOW MUCH EFFECT AND HOW MUCH INTERMINGLING THERE IS THERE BECAUSE ONTARIO IS WHERE THE VOTES ARE.>>Mark: SURE.>>IF YOU WIN IN ONTARIO YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH COAST IN THE REST OF THE COUNTRY AND BECAUSE IT’S SEEN AS SO VOLATILE, EVERYONE IS ON TENTER HOOKS, SOMETHING LIKE A TEACHERS STRIKE THAT WOULD THROW PARENTS AND FAMILIES INTO CHAOS, THAT WAS A NIGHTMARE SCENARIO FOR THE CONSERVATIVES. THEY’RE PROBABLY VERY RELIEVED IT’S NOT GOING AHEAD.>>Mark: JUSTIN TRUDEAU WHEN IN ONTARIO SEEMS TO MENTION DOUG FORD AS MUCH AS HE MENTIONS ANDREW SCHEER, RIGHT?>>YEAH, I MEAN, HE’S RUNNING HALF HIS CAMPAIGN AGAINST DOUG FORD AND TRYING TO TAKE AIM AT THOSE RIDINGS IN THE GTA, IT’S A WEIRD KIND OF CROSS-SECTION OF RIDINGS. HE’S NOT AIMING FOR THE ETOBICOKES WHERE DOUG FORD IS STILL EXTREMELY POPULAR, DON VALLEY AREA, THAT AREA NORTH OF TORONTO, SCARBOROUGH, ESPECIALLY SOME OF THE RIDINGS WHERE EVEN THE NDP HAVE ONCE BEEN COMPETITIVE WHERE YOU KNOW THERE IS A GOOD BASE OF CENTRE, CENTRE LEFT VOTERS WHERE PEOPLE COULD VERY MUCH BE ACTIVATED IN THEIR DISLIKE FOR DOUG FORD AND WHERE ANDREW SCHEER ISN’T JUST AS MUCH OF A NAME. AND I THINK I WAS DRIVING THROUGH THE GTA OVER THE LAST COUPLE DAYS AND I’M GAUGING ONLY BY THE SIGN WAR GOING ON BUT IT DOES SEEM TO BE THERE’S LOTS OF REALLY CONTESTED RIDINGS, AREAS WHERE THERE ISN’T NECESSARILY AN INCUMBENT OR THERE’S A WEAK LIBERAL INCUMBENT, YOU KNOW, A BACKBENCHER AND I THINK A LOT OF THOSE RIDINGS ARE ULTIMATELY GOING TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT IT’S A LIBERAL OR CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENT OR WHETHER IT’S A LIBERAL MINORITY OR MAJORITY.>>Mark: RIGHT.>>AND THIS TEACHERS STRIKE IS ABSOLUTELY PLAYING INTO THAT. THESE ARE THE AREAS DEFINITELY HEAVY IN, YOU KNOW, TWO PARENTS, THREE KIDS SORT OF TERRITORY, YOU KNOW, THE MINIVAN CREW. AND THEY’RE GOING TO RESPOND VERY AGGRESSIVELY TO EVERYTHING ESPECIALLY WITH THE LIKES OF THEIR KIDS.>>Mark: KADY.>>IT DOES GIVE THE LIBERALS OPPORTUNITY TO POINT TO WHAT’S GOING ON IN SOME OF THE I THINK IT’S FAIR TO SAY THE TURBULENT TIMES DOUG FORD’S GOVERNMENT HAS HAD IN OFFICE IN ONTARIO AND SUGGESTS THAT, HEY, IF YOU ELECT ANDREW SCHEER, YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE SIMILAR CONFRONTATIONS, YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE SIMILAR UNCERTAINTY, THERE WILL BE CUTS. IT’S BASICALLY HOLDING OUT AS A WORST CASE SCENARIO AND I DON’T KNOW HOW EFFECTIVE IT IS. WHAT’S INTERESTING, IT WAS ACTUALLY THE CONSERVATIVES WHO INITIALLY TRIED TO TURN THE ELECTION INTO A REFERENDUM I GUESS AN AFTER THE FACT REFERENDUM ON McGUINTY AND KATHLEEN WYNNE WHICH IS WHY YOU HEAR ANDREW SCHEER SAY JUSTIN TRUDEAU WANTS TO DO TO CANADA WHAT DALTON McGUINTY AND KATHLEEN WYNNE DID TO ONTARIO. EVERYONE IS USING ONTARIO ALMOST LIKE A MICROCOSM OF WHAT THEY SUGGEST IS THEIR OPPONENTS’ SECRET AGENDA.>>Mark: ONE OF OUR CALLERS BROUGHT UP MAXIME BERNIER AND SUGGESTED HE WOULD BE A FACTOR IN THE DEBATE TONIGHT. I’M NOT SURE THAT HE’S BEEN A HUGE FACTOR IN THE ELECTION SO FAR, BUT COULD THAT CHANGE TONIGHT, JUSTIN?>>MAYBE. I MEAN, MAXIME BERNIER’S NOT A GREAT DEBATER. ESPECIALLY NOT IN ENGLISH. I THINK THE FRENCH DEBATE COULD BE SOMEWHERE WHERE HE DOES MAKE MORE WAVES. BUT HE — YVES-FRANÇOIS BLANCHETTE WILL BE A BIGGER FACTOR IN THE FRENCH DEBATE, THERE WILL BE LOUDER VOICES ON STAGE AND HIS CHANCE OF PICKING UP SEATS IN QUEBEC ARE FRANKLY NIL BEYOND HIS OWN RIDING SO IN THIS DEBATE, I DON’T THINK SO, AND WHAT IS HE CAMPAIGNING ON THAT’S GOING TO RESONATE WITH PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY? WHAT ARE THE BIG ISSUES HE’S BEEN PUSHING. IT’S BEEN A LOT OF CULTURAL WARS, SOCIAL ISSUES –>>SAY “NO” TO –>>HOW MANY PEOPLE EVEN KNOW WHAT AN ANTIFA. MAYBE TALKING ABOUT HIS PLAN TO RIP UP THE INDIAN ACT, MAYBE. I CAN SEE A POSSIBILITY THERE WHERE HE BREAKS THROUGH AND ACTUALLY DOES MANAGE TO PICK UP SOME PEOPLE WHO HAD PREVIOUSLY WRITTEN HIM OFF. I HAVE A HARD TIME SEEING IT. HE DOESN’T SEEM TO HAVE THE INSTINCTS TO KNOW HOW TO CAMPAIGN, AT LEAST NOT CAMPAIGN IN THE WIDER CANADIAN ELECTION. AND I THINK THAT’S SHOWING.>>Mark: BUT IS IT, KADY, GOING TO BE AN ISSUE FOR ANDREW SCHEER THAT EVERY TIME HE TRIES TO TURN HIS ATTENTION TO JUSTIN TRUDEAU, HE’S GOT TO DEAL WITH MAXIME BERNIER?>>THAT’S DEFINITELY — I THINK ONE THING THAT REALLY SURPRISED ME IN BOTH THE “MACLEAN’S” CITY TV DEBATE BUT ALSO IN THE TVA DEBATE WHICH IS THE TWO OPPORTUNITIES WE’VE HAD TO SEE ANDREW SCHEER IN ACTION WAS HE WAS GETTING PUMMELLED AS MUCH FROM THE LEFT DURING THE ROGERS DEBATE AS HE WAS FROM THE RIGHT WHICH IS WHAT BERNIER WOULD BE PRESUMABLY COMING AT HIM FOR SO IN GENERAL, AS JUSTIN SAID EARLIER, ANDREW SCHEER HAS TO LEARN TO PLAY DEFENCE. HE’S NOT DEMONSTRATED HIMSELF TO BE PARTICULARLY SKILLFUL AT THAT AND NOW HE’S GOING TO HAVE TO WORRY NOT JUST ABOUT ELIZABETH MAY AND JAGMEET SINGH HECKLING HIM ABOUT HIS ENVIRONMENT PLAN BUT, YEAH, HE’S GOING TO DEAL WITH BERNIER GOING FOR THE SAME CENTRE RIGHT VOTES AND DISGRUNTLED SMALL “C” CONSERVATIVES WHO I THINK ANDREW SCHEER NEEDS TO KEEP IN THE FLOCK IF HE’S GOT ANY HOPE OF PULLING OFF A VICTORY HERE.>>BERNIER’S BIG WEAKNESS IS HE’S NOT REALLY GOING AFTER THE GOVERNMENT ON THINGS WHERE IT’S FAILED. A COUPLE CALLERS BROUGHT UP THE FACT, BROUGHT UP THE ARGUMENT JUSTIN TRUDEAU’S A LIAR AS WELL. AND REALITY, IT’S NOT QUITE THE SAME AS WHAT ANDREW SCHEER IS DOING THIS CAMPAIGN. ANDREW SCHEER IS SAYING THINGS THAT ARE DEMONSTRABLY UNTRUE. JUSTIN TRUDEAU’S WEAKNESS IS THAT HE CAMPAIGNED ON A BUNCH OF BIG THINGS THAT HE DIDN’T DO, WHETHER THAT’S INTENTIONALLY OR ACCIDENTALLY OR BY INCOMPETENCE, WHO KNOWS, BUT THAT’S EASY TO GO AFTER. I DON’T THINK MAXIME BERNIER HAS SET HIMSELF UP TO DO THAT.>>Mark: ALL RIGHT. WE’RE GOING TO GET BACK TO YOUR OPINIONS ABOUT TONIGHT’S DEBATES IN A FEW MINUTES. A REMINDER AS WELL WE WILL HAVE AN EDITION OF “HAVE YOUR SAY” AFTER THE DEBATE TONIGHT SO WE’RE INTERESTED TO HEAR FROM YOU THEN ABOUT WHAT YOU THOUGHT OF THE DEBATE AND HOW EACH OF THE LEADERS GOT THEIR MESSAGES ACROSS. AND WHETHER IT CHANGED THE WAY YOU’RE GOING TO VOTE. CPAC’S MARTIN STRINGER IS IN ST. JOHN’S, NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR TODAY AS PART OF OUR RIDINGS TO WATCH SERIES. HE’S BEEN TALKING TO VOTERS AND LOCAL CANDIDATES AND JOINS US NOW TO BRING US UP TO DATE. HI, MARTIN.>>Congregation:.>>HELLO, MARK.>>Mark: YOU ARE TRAVELLING THROUGH TWO RIDINGS IN THE ST. JOHN’S AREA. WHAT MAKES THEM KEY BATTLE GROUNDS IN THIS ELECTION?>>IT’S QUITE INTERESTING. ONE RIDING IS ST. JOHN’S EAST. THIS IS REALLY FASCINATING BECAUSE THE STORY IN ST. JOHN’S EAST, IF WE TAKE THE TWO RIDINGS WE’RE IN, THEY REPRESENT 32% OF THE POPULATION OF NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR. THEY ARE THE URBAN CORE OF NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR. ST. JOHN’S EAST IS QUITE INTERESTING BECAUSE IT REALLY IS ONE OF THE FEW SEATS IN CANADA WHERE THE NEW DEMOCRATS, THE NDP, HOPES TO MAKE A GAIN, TO GAIN A SEAT AND THAT’S BECAUSE A FORMER MP JACK HARRIS WHO WAS AN MP FROM 2008 TO 2015, WHEN THE TRUDEAU RED WAVE SWEPT THROUGH ATLANTIC CANADA, JACK HARRIS IS MAKING A RETURN AND HE LOST BY ONLY 600 VOTES IN THE LAST ELECTION SO HE’S HOPING THAT HE’LL WIN THIS SEAT BACK, BUT HE’S UP AGAINST A FAIRLILY POPULAR AND VERY COMPETENT LIBERAL INCUMBENT WHO IS NICK WHALEN, AN ENGINEER, AND NICK WHALEN IS OBVIOUSLY RUNNING ON HIS RECORD SO IT’S QUITE A TIGHT RACE AND AS I SAY A LOT OF NDP EYES WILL BE ON THIS. NOW, IN THE NEXT DOOR RIDING, BY MOST ACCOUNTS, IT’S A BIT — IT’S NOT QUITE AS CLOSE A RACE BUT IT’S QUITE INTERESTING BECAUSE A MAJOR NATIONAL ISSUE HAS COME UP AND THAT IS THE DECISION BY THE TRUDEAU GOVERNMENT TO APPEAL THE CANADIAN HUMAN RIGHTS TRIBUNAL DECISION, THE ORDER, THAT IS ORDERING THE GOVERNMENT OF CANADA TO PAY UP TO $2.5 BILLION IN COMPENSATION TO UP TO 55,000 INDIGENOUS CHILDREN OR THEIR RELATIVES, CHILDREN WHO WERE TRANSFERRED INTO THE CHILD WELFARE SYSTEM, REMOVED FROM THEIR FAMILIES. THE CANADIAN HUMAN RIGHTS TRIBUNAL HAS ORDERED THE GOVERNMENT TO DO THAT BUT LAST WEEK WE LEARNED THAT THE TRUDEAU GOVERNMENT IS APPEALING THAT DECISION. WELL, IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT THE INDIGENOUS SERVICES MINISTER IS THE INCUMBENT IN ST. JOHN’S SOUTH MOUNT PEARL AND THAT IS SEAMUS O’REGAN. SO HE IS, WHILE THAT MIGHT NOT BE A HUGE LOCAL ISSUE, IT IS A HUGE NATIONAL ISSUE, WHICH IS PERCHING ITSELF ON HIS LAP SO HE’S GETTING GRILLED HERE ABOUT THAT ISSUE. SO WE HAVE ONE RIDING WHICH IS AN AMAZING ELECTORAL RACE IN THE ELECTORAL MEASURE AND THE OTHER RIDING WHICH IS INHERITED A MAJOR NATIONAL ISSUE.>>Mark: VERY INTERESTING. NOW, AS THE DEBATE ARRIVES TONIGHT, WHAT DO YOU THINK VOTERS IN ST. JOHN’S ARE WATCHING FOR TONIGHT?>>I WAS AFRAID YOU’D ASK THAT QUESTION. IT’S ALWAYS VERY DIFFICULT TO KNOW WHAT THE AVERAGE PERSON OR PEOPLE HERE ARE GOING TO BE WATCHING FOR. ONE THING IS EASY TO SAY, THOUGH, AND THAT IS WE HAVE NOW BEEN IN SIX RIDINGS THROUGH ATLANTIC CANADA, IN NOVA SCOTIA AND NOW THESE TWO RIDINGS IN NEWFOUNDLAND AND ONE THING YOU CAN SAY WITHOUT A SHADOW OF THE DOUBT IS THE HUGE ISSUE IN ALL OF THESE AREAS IS HEALTH CARE. AND IT’S AN ISSUE THAT HAS REACHED A CRISIS BUT I THINK A LOT OF CANADIANS OR PEOPLE IN OTHER PARTS OF CANADA CANNOT REALLY APPRECIATE. FOR EXAMPLE, THE RIDINGS WE PROFILED IN NOVA SCOTIA, 57,000 NOVA SCOTIANS DO NOT HAVE A FAMILY PHYSICIAN. WE WERE JUST OUTSIDE IN THE STREETS HERE IN ST. JOHN’S, AND WE SPOKE TO SOMEONE AT THE FARMERS MARKET ON SATURDAY, AND SHE SAID THAT HER FAMILY AND THREE OTHER FAMILIES SHE KNOWS DO NOT HAVE FAMILY PHYSICIANS, THEIR FATHER WHO JUST SPENT THE LAST THREE DAYS IN THE CORRIDORS ON A STRETCHER IN THE LOCAL HOSPITAL. IT IS TECHNICALLY A PROVINCIAL JURISDICTION BUT IN BOTH NOVA SCOTIA AND NEWFOUNDLAND HERE THEY ARE SCREAMING FOR FEDERAL POLITICIANS TO ADDRESS IT, TO DO MORE IN TERMS OF TRANSFER PAYMENTS, TO DO MORE IN TERMS OF ENFORCING THE CANADA HEALTH ACT, MAYBE TO DO MORE, WE KNOW THAT PHARMACARE IS AN ISSUE IN OTHER PARTS OF CANADA BUT HERE IT’S JUST BASIC SERVICES, AND THERE’S A LOT OF ANGER AT PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENTS. ALSO OBVIOUSLY RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT IS HUGE HERE IN NEWFOUNDLAND BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME BACK FROM THE OIL PATCH, RUNNING INTO A CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE FOR EXAMPLE TALKING TO THEM AND THEY ARE ANGRY AT BILL C 69 THE GOVERNMENT’S ENVIRONMENTAL LEGISLATION IN A WAY IN CERTAIN CORRIDORS HERE IN NEWFOUNDLAND, IT SOUNDS LIKE ALBERTA BECAUSE OF ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO WERE WHAT THEY CALLED TURN AROUNDS GOING TO THE OIL PATCH AND MANY HAVE COME BACK HERE TO NEWFOUNDLAND SO THEY WILL BE WATCHING. ALSO THERE’S A LOT OF TALK OF CLIMATE CHANGE JUST AS THERE IS ACROSS CANADA. NOW, AS FOR WHAT CANDIDATES WOULD LIKE TO SEE, THAT’S ANOTHER ISSUE. I’M SURE A LOT OF PEOPLE, THE LIBERAL CANDIDATES HERE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN SOME WAY THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE ANDREW SCHEER MAKE A FORAY INTO COMMENTS LIKE WE SAW FROM STEPHEN HARPER WHERE IN ATLANTIC CANADA HE MADE THOSE RATHER POLITICALLY UNFORTUNATE COMMENTS SAYING THIS WAS A CULTURE OF DEPENDENCY. HERE IN NEWFOUNDLAND, THE CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATES ARE STILL TRYING TO GET OUT FROM UNDER THE ABC WHEN DANNY WILLIAMS THE CONSERVATIVE PREMIER DECLARED WAR ON THE FEDERAL CONSERVATIVES AND THE CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATES HERE ARE STILL TRYING TO SHAKE OFF THOSE NEGATIVE CONNOTATIONS AND ALL THAT SO IT’S SOME REFLECTIONS.>>Mark: OKAY. GREAT STUFF. MARTIN, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU JOINING US TODAY. ENJOY THE DEBATE TONIGHT.>>YOU’RE WELCOME, MY PLEASURE.>>Mark: MARTIN STRINGER IN ST. JOHN’S, NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR. AND YOU CAN FIND CPAC’S RIDINGS TO WATCH SERIES ON OUR WEBSITE CPACVOTE2018.CA AND IF YOU’RE IN ST. JOHN’S TONIGHT, THERE ARE MANY DEBATE WATCH PARTIES HAPPENING THERE, INCLUDING AT THE CINEPLEX IN MOUNT PEARL AND WE WILL HAVE COVERAGE BEGINNING ON CPAC AT 5:00 EASTERN TIME, THAT’S AT 6:30 IN ST. JOHN’S WITH A SPECIAL EDITION OF “HAVE YOUR SAY” TO FOLLOW THE DEBATE. WE WILL BE CHECKING IN DURING “HAVE YOUR SAY” LATER TONIGHT WITH SOME OF THOSE WATCH PARTIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. LET’S GET BACK TO YOUR OPINIONS ON THE PHONE LINES ABOUT TONIGHT’S DEBATE. KAY IS IN LISTOWEL, ONTARIO. HELLO, KAY.>>Caller: GOOD EVENING. I JUST WANT — MY WHOLE THING IS ABOUT THE DEBATE TONIGHT. HOW THEY’RE GOING TO CONTROL IT WITH SIX COMMENTATORS ON THERE AND HOW ARE THEY GOING TO KEEP ONE ANOTHER FROM TALKING OVER EACH OTHER LIKE THEY DID IN THE “MACLEAN’S” ONE. IT WAS HORRIBLE. THERE WAS NO CONTROL WHATSOEVER. AND I HOPE THEY PLAN ON CONTROLLING SOMEHOW. PEOPLE JUST KEEP ON TALKING, THEY DON’T LET NOBODY ANSWER, JUST YAP, YAP, YAP, AND USUALLY IF TRUDEAU’S TALKING, NOBODY SAYS A WORD, LET HIM RAMBLE ON FOR HOURS. AND THAT GOES ON AND ON, AND ANYBODY THAT SAYS THAT THE LIBERALS DON’T GET PRIVILEGE ON THE CPAC OR ANYWHERE ELSE IS FULL OF SHIT. BECAUSE EVERY TIME –>>Mark: OKAY. I’M GOING TO JUMP IN. WE’RE GOING TO GO TO ED IN SAULT STE. MARIE, ONTARIO. HELLO, ED.>>Caller: HELLO, SIR, HOW ARE YOU?>>Mark: FINE, THANKS.>>Caller: YES, I’D LIKE TO HAVE THEM ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CANADA PENSION AND THE OLD AGE PENSION. FOR THE SIMPLE REASON SEEMS LIKE ONLY HALF THE PEOPLE GET THE TRUDEAU SUBSIDY AND AT TODAY’S DAY AND AGE, I THINK THAT EVERYBODY WHO PAYS INTO THE CANADA PENSION, ESPECIALLY THE ONES WHO ARE GETTING CLOSER TO RETIREMENT ARE NOT GETTING A FAIR SHAKE AND –>>Mark: SO WHAT SPECIFICALLY IS YOUR CONCERN ABOUT THE CANADA PENSION PLAN?>>Caller: THEY’RE NOT GETTING ENOUGH.>>Mark: THAT THE RECIPIENTS, THE BENEFICIARIES ARE NOT GETTING ENOUGH.>>Caller: THAT’S EXACTLY RIGHT.>>Mark: OKAY.>>Caller: FOR THE SIMPLE REASON BOTH CAUCUSES, THE LIBERALS AND THE CONSERVATIVES, HAVE BEEN STEALING OUT OF THAT CANADA PENSION FUND FOR YEARS, AND WHICH WAS DESIGNED TO TAKE CARE OF ITSELF.>>Mark: OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CALL. LET’S GO TO SANDY IN SARNIA, ONTARIO. HELLO, SANDY.>>Caller: HI, MARK.>>Mark: HI.>>Caller: THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. ACTUALLY, MARTIN STRINGER ANSWERED THE QUESTION I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT, BUT WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT ANDREW SCHEER HAS PROMISED TO REPEAL THE CARBON TAX WHICH WOULD REALLY HELP A LOT BECAUSE SINCE THAT WENT INTO EFFECT, PRICES HAVE GONE THROUGH THE ROOF. AND JUSTIN TRUDEAU, IF HE’S GOING TO RUN A $93 BILLION DEFICIT, YOU KNOW WE’RE GOING TO BE TAXED TO THE MAX.>>Mark: OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BERNIE IN MISSISSAUGA, ONTARIO. HELLO, BERNIE.>>Caller: MARK, I’M LOOKING FORWARD TO TONIGHT IN THE DEBATE, I’M GOING TO BE WATCHING JAGMEET SINGH VERY, VERY CLOSELY TO SEE HOW HE DOES, BECAUSE HE’S DONE GOOD IN THE FIRST DEBATES AND IF HE CAN PULL VOTES FROM THE LIBERALS AND THE GREENS JUMP ON-BOARD, I THINK HE CAN BE A SURPRISE IN THE ELECTION, THE NDP WILL DO A LOT BETTER THAN WHAT PEOPLE THINK THEY’RE GOING TO DO. ONE THING JUST BEFORE I GO, MARK, I’D LIKE TO SAY I’VE HEARD A LOT OF TALK ABOUT CLIMATE AND ENERGY PROGRAMS THROUGH THIS ELECTION. THE ONLY ONE I NOTICE THAT COME OUT WITH A CLEAR, DEFINED POLICY HAS BEEN JAGMEET SINGH. THAT WAS TO ELECTRIFY THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, TO STOP SUBSIDIES OF FOSSIL FUELS AND CREATE AN ENVIRONMENTAL BANK TO HELP WORKERS TRANSITION FOR THE NEW JOBS OF THE FUTURE. SO I HAVEN’T HEARD ANYTHING FROM ANY OF THE OTHER THREE PARTY LEADERS SO THAT’S ALL I’D LIKE TO SAY AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.>>Mark: OKAY. BERNIE, THANK YOU. SHARON IS IN DUNCAN, BRITISH COLUMBIA. HELLO, SHARON.>>Caller: I’M A RETIRED RN AND I LOST MY PARTNER, MY SAME GENDER PARTNER WHO WAS EUTHANIZED BY A PHYSICIAN, THAT MEANS HE WAS PUT TO DEATH FOR COST CONTAINMENT PURPOSES AND DISCRIMINATION BASED ON AGEISM. THIS MIGHT SOUND KIND OF BIZARRE BUT IT’S FRIGHTENING TO ME THAT A DOCTOR COULD JUST COME OUT AND TELL US THAT, YEP, YOU COST TOO MUCH AND BECAUSE YOU’RE DISABLED, YOU’LL HAVE TO BE PUT DOWN LIKE A DOG, THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED, I WITNESSED IT AND IT WAS PRETTY HORRIBLE. I’D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE CANDIDATES TONIGHT HOW WILL THEY DRESS THE NORMALIZATION OF AGEISM IN HEALTH CARE AND WHAT DO THEY INTEND TO DO TO PUT FORWARD THE FACT THAT GETTING OLD DOESN’T MEAN YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PLUG PULLED ON YOU, THAT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A QUALITY OF LIFE THAT YOUNGER PEOPLE MAY NOT UNDERSTAND YET. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.>>Mark: OKAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CALL. RAY IN SASKATOON. HELLO, RAY.>>Caller: THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. FIRST A LITTLE COMMENT ABOUT THE PROGRAM. I DO ENJOY IT BUT I’M SURE YOU’RE AWARE YOU’RE ONLY SLOWING LEE OF THE LEADERS. I’D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE PPC AND MAXIME BERNIER AND SOME OF THOSE OR MOST OF THE POLICIES THAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT THAT NOBODY ELSE WILL EVEN TOUCH. CROSSING THE BORDER AT ROXHAM ROAD, STOPPING CORPORATE WELFARE, STOPPING OFFSHORES WELFARE. WHY AM I SPENDING $2.4 BILLION TO BUILD A ROAD IN CHINA? WHEN I HAVE 200,000 HOMELESS PEOPLE IN CANADA? THANK YOU.>>Mark: OKAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CALL. WE’RE GOING TO GO NEXT TO A CALL FROM BRENDA IN CENTRAL ALBERTA. HELLO, BRENDA.>>Caller: HI THERE.>>Mark: GO AHEAD.>>Caller: I WAS JUST CALLING TO COMMENT ON WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR TO SEEING ON THE DEBATES TONIGHT. AND FOR MYSELF, I JUST WANT TO BRIEFLY COMMENT ON YOUR CALLER THAT MENTIONED THE EUTHANASIA. I’VE GONE THROUGH THE SAME THING WITH MY BROTHER-IN-LAW VERY RECENTLY AND IT IS HEART BREAKING TO SEE THAT COME TO SOCIETY. SECONDARY TO THAT, I THINK WE NEED TO BE ADDRESSING AND PEOPLE SHOULD BE LOOKING INTO THE U.N. AGENDA’S 21 AND 2030. IT HAS AN IMPACT AND IS AFFECTING A LOT OF THE DIFFERENT ISSUES WE’RE DEALING WITH TODAY. AND AS WE COME INTO THESE ELECTIONS, I’VE ADDRESSED THESE ISSUES WITH CANDIDATES AND THE LEADERS THEMSELVES, INCLUDING ANDREW SCHEER AND MAX BERNIER, AND THE ONLY CANDIDATES AND THE ONLY LEADER IS MAXIME BERNIER THAT WILL ADDRESS THEM HEAD-ON AND WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THE EFFECT AND THE IMPACT THEY’RE HAVING ON CANADA TODAY. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON’T UNDERSTAND THAT. AND I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOK AT THAT.>>Mark: OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CALL. LET’S TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT WHAT EACH OF THE LEADERS HAS AT STAKE TONIGHT. COUPLE OF CALLERS HAVE BROUGHT UP JAGMEET SINGH. KADY, I THINK AT THE START OF THIS CAMPAIGN (A) LOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE JAGMEET SINGH’S ONLY CAMPAIGN AS THE LEADER OF THE NDP.>>ABSOLUTELY. AND YOU KNOW THERE WERE SOME QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT THE NEW DEMOCRATS WOULD EVEN HAVE ENOUGH MPs AT THE END OF IT TO HAVE OFFICIAL PARTY STATUS AND I HAVE TO SAY BASED ON THAT INCREDIBLY LOW THRESHOLD THAT THEY STARTED FROM THEY DEFINITELY PERFORMED ABOVE EXPECTATIONS OR SEEM TO BE AS FAR AS THE POLLING NUMBERS AND THE ATTENTION THEY’RE GETTING IN JUST THE GENERAL. THERE IS MORE OF A SENSE THAT THE NDP ARE COMPETITIVE, PROBABLY NOT REALISTICALLY AT THIS POINT ACTUAL LITTLE COMPETITIVE FOR THE TOP SPOT BUT DEFINITELY NOT BEING SEEN AS ON THE VERGE OF GOING RIGHT OFF A CLIFF. ALTHOUGH ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS, BUT I THINK ALL THAT JAGMEET SINGH HAS TO DO IS CARRY ON WITH WHAT IS A PRETTY GOOD PERFORMANCE IN BOTH FRENCH AND ENGLISH AT THE ROGERS AND TVA DEBATE AND DON’T GET CROWDED OUT BUT HE DOES STILL HAVE TO WORRY TO A CERTAIN DEGREE ABOUT ELIZABETH MAY, ABOUT ELIZABETH MAY AND THE GREEN PARTY AND THIS NOTION THAT PROGRESSIVE VOICES THAT USED TO SORT OF AUTOMATICALLY ALIGN WITH NEW DEMOCRATS NOW HAVE ANOTHER OPTION THAT ISN’T THEM AND I THINK THAT’S WHAT HE’S GOT TO DO, PRESENT HIMSELF AS NORTH SOLVE OF FOLLOWING THE THOMAS MULCAIR MODEL OF SUGGESTING WE’RE JUST BACK TO BUSINESS, WE’RE NOT GOING TO RUN A DEFICIT, WE’RE FIRMLY IN THE CENTRE, WHICH WAS SEEN BY A LOT OF PEOPLE HOW THE NDP LOST THE LAST ELECTION BUT TO PRESENT HIMSELF AS A CREDIBLE ALTERNATIVE AND SOMEONE THAT YOU WILL WANT TO SEND ENOUGH NDP MPs TO OTTAWA TO REALLY HAVE A VOICE.>>Mark: TALK A LITTLE BIT, JUSTIN, ABOUT THE DYNAMIC BETWEEN JAGMEET SINGH AND ELIZABETH MAY TONIGHT AND DURING THIS ELECTION CAMPAIGN?>>IT’S BEEN WEIRD TO SAY THE LEAST. YOU KNOW, I THINK IN BOTH CAMPS YOU WOULD HEAR THEM SORT OF SAY BEFORE THIS ELECTION, YOU KNOW, THEY’RE NOT OUR ENEMY, WE’RE BOTH KIND OF TALKING ABOUT CLIMATE CRISIS AND GOING FOR THE PROGRESSIVE VOTERS WHO WENT FOR JUSTIN TRUDEAU IN 2015. THIS DEBATE I THINK GOT A LOT NASTIER THAN PROBABLY EITHER OF THEM WOULD HAVE TOLD YOU BEFOREHAND AND THAT’S MOSTLY THE NDP FAULT. THE NDP REPEATEDLY TRIED TO SUGGEST THAT THE GREEN PARTY IS ANTI-ABORTION OR ANY NUMBER OF THINGS. YOU SAW IN THE “MACLEAN’S” DEBATE WITH JAGMEET SINGH TRYING TO LIST A WHOLE BUNCH OF REASONS ELIZABETH MAY WAS NOT A PROGRESSIVE LEADER. SO IT’S BEEN ODD TO SAY THE LEAST. I THINK THAT WILL SLOW DOWN IN THIS DEBATE. I THINK THE NDP ARE NOT SEEING THE RETURNS THAT THEY EXPECTED TO. ELIZABETH MAY HAS DONE A FINE JOB HERSELF SORT OF TANKING HER OWN CAMPAIGN. SHE’S BASICALLY TRIED — MADE SOME ENEMIES IN QUEBEC BY KIND OF SUGGESTING THAT SHE WOULD FORCE THEM TO SELL THEIR ENERGY TO VARIOUS PROVINCES, THAT SHE WOULD KIND OF FORCE THEM TO USE ALBERTA OIL, ALL SORTS OF THINGS WHERE SHE’S MANAGED TO ALIENATE PEOPLE WHO WERE SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING HER. MEANWHILE, JAGMEET SINGH IS DOING JUST A FINE ENOUGH JOB GETTING THE WHEELS BACK ON THE BUS IN MANY WAYS AND I THINK YOU’RE SEEING THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY THEY’RE NOT COMPETING IN A LOT OF THE SAME RIDINGS. YES, IT LOOKS LIKE THE GREENS WILL TAKE A NUMBER OF RIDINGS ON VANCOUVER ISLAND AND AROUND VICTORIA, A COUPLE OF THEM THE NDP HOLD RIGHT NOW. I THINK TO SOME DEGREE THE NDP ACCEPTS THEY’RE GOING TO LOSE THOSE SEATS. YOU’RE NOT GOING TO SEE THE GREENS VERY COMPETITIVE IN TORONTO, IN OTTAWA, AROUND ST. JOHN’S. THOSE ARE THE AREAS NDP ARE REALLY HOPING TO PICK UP SEATS AND HOLD ON TO THE ONES THEY HAVE SO I THINK YOU’RE GETTING TO A POINT WHERE BOTH PARTIES ARE ACKNOWLEDGING THEY’RE DIVIDING THE TURF AND MAYBE GOING THEIR OWN WAY BUT ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE TONIGHT.>>Mark: OKAY. LET’S LOOK AT WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING ON SOCIAL MEDIA. IF YOU HAVE A COMMENT, WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO USE THE #CPACvote2019. HERE’S WHAT SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYING SO FAR TODAY. WE’RE AGAIN ASKING YOU WHAT DO YOU WANT TO HEAR IN THE LEADERS DEBATE TONIGHT. SERIOUS QUESTIONS, THIS VIEWER WRITES, CLEAR AND INFORMATIVE ANSWERS AND RESPECT. ANOTHER COMMENT, I’D LIKE TO HEAR TRUDEAU EXPLAIN WHY THE BUDGET DIDN’T BALANCE ITSELF BY 2019. TIM WRITES, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THEM ACTUALLY ANSWER A QUESTION, NOT POINT AT THE OTHER ONE AND SAY HOW BAD THEIR PLAN IS. NOT TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE. NOT EQUIVOCATE OR OBVISCATE. ANSWER QUESTIONS HONESTLY AND DIRECTLY. ANOTHER COMMENT, HOW CAN WE GET TO PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION? WE NEED EVERY VOTE TO COUNT. WHAT IS TRUDEAU’S RESPONSE TO INCREASED WESTERN ALIENATION SENTIMENT? AND THIS PERSON WRITES, WE WANT TO HEAR THE LEADERS PUT WOMEN’S RIGHTS AND GENDER EQUALITY UP FOR DEBATE THIS EVENING. SO THERE IS A SELECTION OF WHAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SAYING ON SOCIAL MEDIA. AGAIN, WE’RE ASKING YOU WHAT DO YOU WANT TO HEAR IN TONIGHT’S DEBATE. PLEASE CALL US IF YOU HAVE A COMMENT OR SEND US AN EMAIL, ALSO JOIN THE DISCUSSION THAT’S HAPPENING ON SOCIAL MEDIA. LET’S TAKE A CALL FROM ANDY IN TORONTO. HELLO, ANDY.>>Caller: HI.>>Mark: HI.>>Caller: THIS IS THE SECOND TIME I TALKED TO YOU. I TALKED TO YOU LAST THURSDAY, I DON’T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER ME BUT THE ISSUE OF ABORTION WAS COMING UP THAT DAY. AND FUNNY ENOUGH, I’D LIKE TO INFORM YOU THAT THERE IS A STRONG POSSIBILITY THAT TRUDEAU HANDLERS ARE ACTUALLY LISTENING TO CPAC BECAUSE AFTER THURSDAY, MR. TRUDEAU CAME ON FRIDAY TO BASICALLY BRING A NEW MESSAGE ABOUT HIS CHANGE IN POSITION ON THAT TOPIC AND TO QUOTE HIM, HE SAID HE NO LONGER OPPOSES ABORTION IN ANY WAY. SADLY I BELIEVE HIS HANDLERS GOT IT WRONG BY WHATEVER INFORMATION THEY PUT FORWARD TO HIM. THAT’S NOT THE ANSWER I WAS PARTICULARLY LOOKING FOR. I WANTED HIM TO BE MORE CONSISTENT WITH HIS — WHAT SHOULD BE HIS MORAL UPBRINGING. SO AGAIN WE’VE GOT THIS SCHIZOPHRENIA OF MR. TRUDEAU COMING OUT. I HOPE IN TONIGHT’S DEBATE HE WON’T BE ATTACKING MR. SCHEER ON HIS POSITION ON THAT ISSUE WHICH IS MORE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO CALL HIS RELIGIOUS UPBRINGING. SO GETTING TO SOME OTHER ISSUES THAT I’D LIKE TO HEAR TONIGHT, I’D LIKE TO HEAR HOW HE’S GOING TO BE BETTER PROTECTING CANADIANS ABROAD. WE’RE ALL AWARE OF THE TWO CANADIANS HELD IN CHINA RIGHT NOW, AND THAT SEEMS TO BE NOT TALKED ABOUT. ANOTHER ISSUE THAT’S SORT OF CONNECTED TO THAT IS HOW IS HE GOING TO BROADEN INTERNATIONALLY OUR TRADE PACTS WITH NATIONS. SOMETIMES WE’RE TRADING TOO MUCH WITH ONE INDIVIDUAL PARTNER ABROAD AND WHEN WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THAT PARTNER, THEY USE THAT AS LEVERAGE AGAINST US. AND FINALLY, BASED ON SOME OF THE PREVIOUS CALLS THAT YOU JUST HAD HERE, I’D LIKE TO SEE CANADIANS USING OUR OWN OIL IN CANADA. THIS PIPELINE THAT HE’S GOT GOING TO THE WEST, WE DEFINITELY NEED ONE TO THE EAST AND I WANT WESTERNERS TO KNOW AS A CENTRAL CANADIAN I’D LIKE TO SEE US USING MORE OF OUR OWN OIL IN THIS NATION INSTEAD OF IMPORTING OIL TO THE EAST COAST REFINERIES. IT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE TO ME, IT NEVER HAS. IT SHOWS THAT WE ACTUALLY LOST A LOT OF OUR SOVEREIGNTY TO THESE INTERNATIONAL CORPORATIONS OIL, OBVIOUSLY THE INTERNATIONAL CONGLOMERATES IN THE OIL INDUSTRY. WE NEED TO TAKE IT BACK. I THINK THESE ARE IMPORTANT ISSUES. AND I STILL THINK THAT THE ABORTION ISSUE IS A CURRENT ISSUE. WHAT PEOPLE THINK OF IT GOING AWAY, IT’S NOT GOING AWAY.>>Mark: OKAY, ANDY.>>Caller: DON’T ATTACK THE UNBORN.>>Mark: FRANK IN QUENELL, BRITISH COLUMBIA. HELLO, FRANK.>>Caller: HOW ARE YOU TODAY?>>Mark: FINE, THANKS.>>Caller: GOOD. HOW ARE YOU?>>Mark: I’M STILL GOOD. GO AHEAD, PLEASE.>>Caller: YOU WANT MY QUESTION?>>Mark: I’D LIKE TO HEAR YOUR COMMENT ON THE DEBATE TONIGHT.>>Caller: MY COMMENT WOULD BE ABOUT HOW MR. TRUDEAU HAS NEVER BALANCED THE BUDGET SINCE DAY ONE, AND HOW ANDREW SCHEER OR ANY OF THE OTHER GUYS EXCEPT MAXIME BERNIER FOR THAT MATTER HAS SAID THEY CAN ACTUALLY BALANCE THE BUDGET. THERE’S NOTHING BUT A DEFICIT FOREVER WITH ALL THESE CANDIDATES EXCEPT MR. BERNIER. I WANT TO SEE SOME ACTUAL PEOPLE IN THERE THAT ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING FOR THE COUNTRY AND OUR NATIONAL DEFICIT. WITHOUT A FIX OF THIS NATIONAL DEFICIT, WE ARE GOING TO BE PUT INTO THE UNITED NATIONS THROUGH CANADA, WE’RE GOING TO BE GONE. THERE WILL BE NO CANADA. WE’RE GOING TO BE SOLD OFF TO THE UNITED NATIONS. THIS IS NOT RIGHT, WHAT IS GOING ON. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT FAIR TO WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE WORLD. THEY HAVE NO CLUE OF WHAT’S REALLY GOING ON.>>Mark: OKAY. FRANK, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CALL. RICK IN TORONTO. HELLO, RICK. HELLO, RICK. RICK, ARE YOU THERE? OKAY, LET’S TAKE A CALL FROM ROBERT IN CHARLOTTETOWN. HELLO, ROBERT. ROBERT, GO AHEAD.>>Caller: I’D LIKE TO HAVE THE POLITICAL LEADERS ANSWER A QUESTION FOR 140,000 ISLANDERS, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO ABOUT THE BRIDGE TOLLS GOING ACROSS THE CONFEDERATION BRIDGE WHERE WE HAVE TO PAY $50 TO GO ACROSS THE BRIDGE, A NEW BRIDGE THEY BUILT UP IN QUEBEC, THEY CROSS IT FOR FREE, AND WE HAVE FOUR LIBERAL MPs ON PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND AND THERE’S NO TALK OF IT CHANGING, GETTING IT LOWERED OR EVEN REDUCED. GET DONE AWAY WITH. THANK YOU.>>Mark: ROBERT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CALL. DAVE IS IN KELOWNA, BRITISH COLUMBIA. HELLO, DAVE.>>Caller: HELLO.>>Mark: DAVE, ARE YOU THERE?>>Caller: YEP.>>Mark: GO AHEAD, PLEASE.>>Caller: I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND A FEW THINGS TO SAY. ONE IS ABOUT DISINFORMATION. ON THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN IT’S SAYING THE DEBATE’S AT 5:00. CBC IS SAYING IT’S AT 4:00. AND THAT PERSON BESIDE YOU THAT’S GOING BALD THERE, THAT GUY SAID THAT WE HAVE A CARBON TAX THAT’S DOING WELL OUT HERE IN B.C. WELL, ON A $30 GAS BILL WITH ALL OF THE TAXES, MY COMPLETE BILL IS $128, SO I DON’T KNOW HOW HE THINKS THAT’S GOING WELL. AND THE OTHER POINT IS THIS: HOW COME NO ONE’S COVERING OUR DEFENCE MINISTER WHO WENT TO THE CELEBRATION OF 70 YEARS OF HAPPY COMMUNIST RULE IN CHINA? THANK YOU.>>Mark: OKAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CALL. YOU KNOW, JUST TO BE CLEAR, I CAN SEE WHAT’S WRITTEN ON THE SCREEN BELOW, AND IT SAYS VERY CLEARLY THAT THE DEBATE IS STARTING AT 7:00 EASTERN TIME TONIGHT AND THAT OUR COVERAGE IS BEGINNING AT 5:00, BOTH OF WHICH ARE TRUE. SO LET’S LEAVE IT THERE. CONSTANTINE IN TORONTO. HELLO, CONSTANTINE.>>Caller: HELLO, HOW ARE YOU?>>Mark: GOOD, THANKS. GO AHEAD.>>Caller: IN 1973 UNDER THE PIERRE ELLIOTT TRUDEAU GOVERNMENT, TRUDEAU BROUGHT THE BANK OF CANADA UNDER THE AUSPICES AND POLICY GUIDANCE OF THE BANK OF INTERNATIONAL SETTLEMENTS, A PRIVATE CORPORATION BASED IN SWITZERLAND. SINCE THEN, THE POLICY HAS BEEN TO SHIFT MORE AND MORE SOVEREIGN DEBT AWAY FROM BEING SERVICED BY THE BANK OF CANADA TOWARDS BEING SERVICED BY PRIVATE LENDORS AND THE COMMITTEE ON MONETARY AND ECONOMIC REFORM HAS CALCULATED THAT CANADA HAS PAID APPROXIMATELY $1 TRILLION IN NEEDLESS INTEREST. CAN THAT TOPIC EVENTUALLY BE ASKED BY POLITICAL PUNDITS IN THE DEBATES? FURTHER TO THE BANK OF CANADA, THERE ARE CALLS FROM GREENS IN EUROPE MORE SO AND TO A LESSER EXTENT FROM GREENS IN CANADA FOR A GREEN MARSHAL PLAN TO LITERALLY BAIL OUT THE PLANET OR BAIL OUT THE CLIMATE CHANGE INITIATIVES IN CANADA. THERE IS A TREMENDOUS MORAL HAZARD WHEN TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS WERE CREATED TO BAIL OUT FAT-CAT CORPORATIONS AND BANKSTERS IN 2008, BUT CENTRAL BANKS ARE NOT USED TO BAIL OUT THE PLANET FROM THE DEVASTATION THAT WE ARE ABOUT TO FACE.>>Mark: ALL RIGHT. CONSTANTINE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CALL. IRENE IN OTTAWA. HELLO, IRENE.>>Caller: HELLO, HOW ARE YOU?>>Mark: FINE, THANKS. GO AHEAD, PLEASE.>>Caller: LISTEN, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO DO TO HELP SENIORS. THERE’S A LOT OF SENIORS IN POVERTY. WE CAN USE HOUSING INSTEAD OF WASTING MONEY, THEY CAN PUT MONEY INTO HOUSING. WE COULD USE A FREE DENTAL PLAN, AND WE CAN USE MORE MONEY ON OUR SUBSIDY PENSION. THEY TALK ABOUT FAMILIES, GIVING FAMILIES THIS, GIVING FAMILIES THAT. WHY AREN’T THEY GIVING ANYTHING TO SENIORS? WE’RE THE ONES THAT WORKED ALL OUR LIVES AND PAID TAXES WHICH TRUDEAU IS WASTING. THE ONLY ONE THAT TALKS ABOUT FREE DENTAL IS SINGH. SO YOU CAN BE SURE HE’S GETTING MY VOTE. BUT ANYWAY –>>Mark: OKAY.>>Caller: THAT’S WHAT I’D LIKE TO HEAR TONIGHT.>>Mark: IRENE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CALL. WE’RE GOING TO GET BACK TO YOUR OPINIONS ABOUT THE DEBATE TONIGHT AND ELECTION CAMPAIGN IN A FEW MOMENTS. KADY, SOME THOUGHTS FROM YOU ON HOW MUCH DEBATES MATTER. PEOPLE LIKE US LIKE TO WATCH THEM AND PROBABLY LOTS OF CPAC VIEWERS ARE GOING TO BE TUNED IN, YEAH, THIS IS LIKE THE SUPER BOWL TO THEM. BUT TO WHAT EXTENT DO THEY ACTUALLY MATTER IN AN ELECTION CAMPAIGN, DO YOU THINK?>>I THINK YOU CAN LOSE AN ELECTION CAMPAIGN WITH A PARTICULARLY-BAD DEBATE PERFORMANCE. I’M NOT SURE IF IT GOES TO THE OTHER SIDE AS WELL, IN OTHER WORDS, YOU CAN COME OUT OF NOWHERE AND WIN. ALTHOUGH IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THE 2015 ELECTION, IT WAS JUSTIN TRUDEAU’S FIRST APPEARANCE AT THE “MACLEAN’S” DEBATE THAT MADE PEOPLE SUDDENLY SAY OH, MAYBE HE’S NOT GOING TO FALL OFF THE STAGE IN DESPAIR, MAYBE THIS IS A CONTENDER AND THAT STARTED HIM UP BUT IN GENERAL, I THINK THAT DEBATES ARE — THEY GIVE THE LEADERS THE OPPORTUNITY SORT OF FEEL EACH OTHER OUT. I HAVE TO SAY I GRUDGINGLY AGREE WITH JUSTIN ON THE POINT IF WE HAD MORE OF THEM, PERHAPS YOU WOULD SEE MORE OF A THEME AND DYNAMICS. WE’LL HAVE TWO HOURS OF NOT ENOUGH TIME TO TALK. BUT THE ANSWER IS I THINK DEBATES CAN GO VERY, VERY WRONG AND LOSE YOU AN ELECTION. BEYOND THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU’RE LUCKY IF YOU COME OUT NEUTRAL AND NO SCORE WINS.>>Mark: JUSTIN?>>I THINK IT’S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO WELL. I DON’T KNOW THAT IT SHIFTS TEN POINTS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. I THINK IT HELPS UNDECIDED FIGURE OUT WHERE THEY’RE GOING TO GO. I THINK POTENTIALLY THERE IS HUGE EFFECT BUT WHAT THE DEBATERS NEED TO DO AND LEADERS NEED TO DO IS FOCUS ON THINGS THAT MATTER TO PEOPLE. THERE’S A MISMATCH BETWEEN A LOT OF THINGS AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS CAMPAIGN AND WHAT MATTERS TO PEOPLE. [ Please Stand By ] SO I THINK IT IS REALLY IT REQUIRES SOME GOOD JUDGMENT ON THE PART OF LEADERS AND THE MODERATORS AS WELL AND THE QUESTIONS THEY’RE ASKING. IF THE QUESTIONS ARE SMART, INCLUDING ABOUT THE DEFICIT, WHICH COMES UP TIME AND TIME AGAIN AND SEEMS TO BE NOWHERE ON THIS CAMPAIGN TRAIL, I THINK THERE’S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR IT TO GO WELL AND AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS DEBATE TO BE LARGELY IRRELEVANT.>>Mark: JUSTIN, YOU’RE ABLE TO STAY WITH US. KADY, I KNOW YOU HAVE TO GO. ANY FINAL THOUGHTS ON WHAT YOU’LL BE WATCHING TONIGHT?>>NO, BUT GOOD LUCK TO THE MODERATORS BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR WORK COME OUT FOR THEM. AND CUT DOWN ON CLOSING AND OPENING STATEMENTS. YOU CAN BUY A LOT OF TIME THERE.>>Mark: THEY INCORPORATE MANY OF THE THEMES OF THOSE STATEMENTS IN THE DEBATE ANYWAY.>>THE LEADERS ARE GOING TO GIVE THE MESSAGE THAT THEY WANT TO GIVE AND FIT THEM IN WHEREVER THEY CAN. THAT’S WHAT YOU ARE TRAINED FOR IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS. YOU GO IN SO TO SAY WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY.>>Mark: THANK YOU, KADY. ENJOY THE DEBATE TONIGHT.>>>WE’RE ASKING YOU WHAT DO YOU WANT TO HEAR IN TONIGHT’S ENGLISH LANGUAGE DEBATE. CALL US WITH YOUR THOUGHTS AT 1-877-296 -2722 ON SEND A COMMENT ONLINE WITH THE #vote2019. LET’S TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT’S AT STAKE FOR LEADERS AND WHAT VOTERS WANT TO HEAR…>>WHEN WE COACH LEADERS FOR DEBATES, WE ACTUALLY BEGIN WITH THE GOALS. WE GOT A FLIP CHART, GOT THE LEADER THERE, SAY WHAT ARE YOUR GOALS FOR THIS DEBATE. IT’S IMPORTANT TO REFRESH THAT EACH TIME. OFTEN THEY’LL SAY THINGS LIKE I WANT TO COME ACROSS AS CARING, EMPATHETIC, STRONG AND CONFIDENT, ON POINT ON THE MESSAGES TO CLEARLY HAVE AN ARTICULATED PLAN AND VISION FOR THE COUNTRY AND TO BE CALM, COOL, AND COLLECTED. TO BE PRIME MINISTERIAL IS OFTEN WHAT YOU HEAR THEM SAY. THE SECOND THING IS BE SURE THEY KNOW WHAT THEIR KEY MESSAGES ARE. I’VE HAD LEADERS WHO WANT TO REGURGITATE WHAT THEY KNOW ABOUT THE ISSUE. WRONG PLACE. OFTEN YOU GET 30 TO 60 SECONDS AND YOU HAVE TO FIND DIFFERENT WAYS OF SAYING IT AND WITHOUT BEING SCRIPTED. THEY HAVE TO OWN THOSE MESSAGES. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A SOUND BITE THAT CAPTURES IT. THE MEDIA CAPTURES THE SOUND BITES AND THAT’S WHAT MOST PEOPLE RECALL OUT OF THE ENTIRE DEBATE. WE GET THEM TO WORK ON YOUR CONTRAST OR ATTACK POINT ON YOUR KEY OPPONENT. DON’T GIVE TOO MUCH OXYGEN TO EVERYBODY ELSE. WE DO A LOT OF REHEARSAL. IF YOU CAN GET A COUPLE OF DAYS BEFORE THE CAMPAIGN, GETS THEM COMFORTABLE IN THE ZONE. WE DO VIDEO, RECORD, PLAY BACK, CRITIQUE ON CONTENT. MAKE SURE IT’S IN A CONSTRUCTIVE WAY SO THEY COME OUT OF THE PROCESS MORE CONFIDENT. AND IN THE END, YOU HANG ON, WATCH, HOPE YOU ENJOY IT AND HOPE YOU’RE KEEPING IN MIND THAT YOU’RE IN SOMEBODY’S LIVING ROOM AND YOU ARE CONNECTING WITH THAT FAMILY.>>IT PROBABLY WILL BECAUSE I’VE CHANGED FROM TIME TO TIME. NOT JUST A LOYAL PARTY. I LISTENED TO WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY AND WE VOTE ACCORDING TO WHAT WE BELIEVE THE PLATFORM WILL BE THE BEST.>>I WILL DEFINITELY WATCH THEM. THEY WILL DEFINITELY NOT HAVE AN IMPACT ON HOW I VOTE. I’M NOT ENTIRELY CERTAIN WHICH WAY I’M GOING TO GO WITH MY VOTE AT THIS POINT. BUT THE LEADERS’ DEBATES USUALLY AREN’T THE DECIDING FACTOR FOR ME BUT DEFINITELY WATCH AND SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY.>>I’M A STAUNCH CONSERVATIVE WHO I JUST PICK WHOEVER THE CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE IS. I THINK FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE MAYBE ON THE FENCE IN TERMS OF WHO THEY WANT TO VOTE FOR, THEY COULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN IMPACT. BUT FOR ME, MYSELF, I DON’T THINK THE DEBATES WILL HAVE AN IMPACT THAT WAY.>>IT SHOWS HOW GOOD THEY ARE, HOW LIVELY THEY ARE, WHAT IDEAS THEY COME UP WITH ON THE FLY. IT DOES. IT HAS A HUGE IMPACT.>>[INDISCERNIBLE] I MIGHT KNOW HOW I’M GOING TO VOTE ANYWAY, BUT SURE, I ALWAYS LISTEN.>>I THINK WE CAN GET MORE INFORMATION, AND WE SEE HOW THEY PERFORM. YEAH, IT’S A PIECE OF INFORMATION OUT OF MANY.>>HOW MANY FEDERAL PARTY LEADERS ARE THERE IN CANADA? FIVE, TEN, OR 16?>>FIVE.>>I THINK IT’S TEN.>>FIVE.>>TEN.>>I WAS GOING TO SAY 16.>>TEN.>>16.>>FIVE.>>THE ANSWER, 16.>>WHOA!>>MANY PEOPLE MAY BE SURPRISED TO KNOW THAT CANADA’S PARTY SYSTEM HAS 16 REGISTERED POLITICAL PARTIES AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL S ALL WITH THEIR OWN LEADER. POLITICAL PARTIES REGISTER WITH ELECTIONS CANADA, BUT IN ORDER TO HAVE A ROLE IN THE PARLIAMENTARY PROCESS, THEY MUST HAVE 12 MEMBERS ELECTED TO THE HOUSE OF COMMONS TO BE A RECOGNIZED PARTY. CURRENTLY OF THE 16 FEDERAL PARTIES, ONLY THE LIBERAL PARTY OF CANADA, CONSERVATIVE PARTY OF CANADA, AND THE NDP ARE OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED PARTIES.>>MY NAME IS REGAN, I’M STUDYING ELEMENTARY EDUCATION, AND I’M FROM FORT McMURRAY, ALBERTA.>>MY NAME IS MADELINE, I’M FROM BEAUMONT, ALBERTA, AND I’M STUDYING A MASTERS IN HUMAN GEOGRAPHY.>>I’M DAVID DRAPER, A THIRD YEAR POLITICAL SCIENCE STUDENT. I’M FROM EDMONTON.>>SOMETHING I’M REALLY INTERESTED IN IS THE NATIONAL HOUSING CRISIS WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT THE PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT RECOGNIZED AND TAKES STEPS TOWARD BUT I’M NOT REALLY SURE HOW OTHER PARTIES OR EVEN IF WE ELECT THE SAME GOVERNMENT AGAIN HOW THEY WOULD CONTINUE ON THAT ISSUE. I THINK IT IS INCREASINGLY PRESSING BETWEEN MAJOR CITIES AND UNDEREXPLORED IN RURAL AREAS.>>I THINK RURAL HOUSING IS NOT SOMETHING PEOPLE REALLY THINK ABOUT AS OFTEN. IT’S JUST AS BIG OF A PROBLEM IN A LOT OF SMALLER RURAL TOWNS, AND PEOPLE JUST DON’T THINK OF IT AS A RURAL PROBLEM.>>SOMETHING I REALLY CARE ABOUT, ONE OF MY BIG PASSIONS IS LGBT Q YOUTH AND IN CANADA THERE ISN’T A LGBTQ YOUTH HOMELESS SHELTER DESPITE LGBTQ YOUTH MAKING UP 40% OF THE HOMELESS SITUATION.>>CANADIAN POLITICIANS ARE REALLY TAKING STRONG STANCES. THEY’RE BEING VERY DEFERENTIAL AND TRY TO PLAY IT VERY SAFELY. I DON’T THINK THAT’S REALLY GOING TO CUT IT WHEN WE’RE SEEING AN INCREASING RISE IN EXTREMISM AND VERY HATEFUL BEHAVIOUR.>>I AGREE. IT SEEMS FURTHER AND FURTHER CANADA IS MOVING TOWARDS A TWO-PARTY SYSTEM EVEN THOUGH WE DO HAVE MULTIPLE PARTIES. IT’S ALL VERY DIVISIVE AS TO WHO IS VOTING FOR WHO BECAUSE NOBODY IS MAKING THESE BIG DECISIONS AS TO THIS IS WHAT I’M GOING TO I AMMENT IS. THEY’RE ALL VERY CHANGES AND CHOICES. WHICH LEAVES LEADS A LOT OF PEOPLE ASTRAY IN WHERE THEY’RE GOING TO VOTE.>>THERE’S A LOT OF RETAIL POLITICS WHERE THEY GO DOOR-TO-DOOR, THEY SAY, I’M, I’M THIS PERSON, AND THEY JUST SAY THIS IS WHO I AM, VOTE FOR THIS GOVERNMENT. AND THAT’S COOL; YOU HAVE THE PLATFORM FROM THE CENTRAL PARTY, BUT WHERE’S THE BIG STANCES, WHERE’S THE ACTUAL CRITIQUE? WHERE DOES THE INDIVIDUAL MP GOING TO FIT INTO IT?>>I THINK ALSO THE WHOLE VERY RECENT BROWNFACE/BLACKFACE DRAMA WAS A REMINDER THESE GROUPS ARE VERY SIMILAR WHEN YOU START TO PULL BACK THE LAYERS. THEY’RE PUSHING VERY SIMILAR GOALS. THE INSTITUTION OF GOVERNMENT IN CANADA IS THE SAME REGARDLESS OF WHICH POLITICAL PARTY IS PUSHING IT.>>I’D LOVE TO SEE SOME FOLLOW THROUGH. I KNOW IN THE 2015 ELECTION, JUSTIN TRUDEAU HAD PROMISED A FORMAL INQUIRY INTO MISSING AND MURDERED WOMEN, BUT THEY’RE STILL GONE. HE HAD ALSO TALKED ABOUT MAKING TUITION FREE, AND THAT HASN’T HAPPENED. AS A UNIVERSITY STUDENT I WAS VERY STRESSED PREPARING FOR MY FIRST YEAR. THERE’S A LOT OF TIMES WHERE THESE CAMPAIGNS ARE DEFINITELY SHOWBOATING AND WE’RE PUTTING OUR FACE INTO THESE PEOPLE AND — FAITH INTO THESE PEOPLE, AND THEY’RE NOT RECIPROCATING. EVERY DECISION WE MAKE, EVERY VOTE CAST, IS AFFECTING FUTURE GENERATIONS. WHEN PEOPLE SAY MY VOTE DOESN’T COUNT, THAT MAKES ME SO UPSET BECAUSE THERE’S THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE SAYING THAT. 20 YEARS DOWN THE LINE, PEOPLE ARING TO BE PAYING FOR IT.>>EXACTLY.>>I DON’T THINK PLATFORMS ARE SELF-EXPLANATORY IN A WAY TO MAKE THE AVERAGE VOTER UNDERSTAND WHAT THE POLITICAL PARTIES ARE. I DON’T THINK ANY OF THE PARTIES HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB IN EXPLAINING THEIR PLATFORMS.>>I THINK THE PLATFORMS ARE GENERALLY IRRELEVANT. THEY’RE JUST ELECTION GIMMICKS. YOU KNOW HOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE FROM THE PHILOSOPHY OF THE PARTY. YOU SHOULD KNOW WHAT THEY’RE GOING TO SAY.>>SOME MORE THAN OTHERS, SOME BETTER THAN OTHERS. SOME CANDIDATES ARE STILL NEW AT THIS AND TRYING TO GET THEIR PLATFORM ESTABLISHED. WE HAVE BEEN GETTING THE ANSWERS THAT WE’VE BEEN LOOKING FOR, BUT IT’S A SLOW PROCESS.>>I DON’T THINK THE FEDERAL PARTIES HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB AT ALL EXPLAINING THEIR PLATFORMS SO FAR. I GET A GENERALS OF THEIR GENERAL VISION OF PRIORITIES AND DIRECTION, BUT IN TERMS OF AN ELECTION PLATFORM, I DON’T FEEL LIKE I’VE HEARD ALL THAT MUCH.>>Mark: IT’S TIME FOR YOU TO HAVE YOUR SAY, I’M MARK SUTCLIFFE. THANK YOU FOR JOINS ON CPAC. OUR QUESTION TODAY, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO HEAR IN THE LEADERS’ DEBATE TONIGHT? CALL US AT 17-877-29 6-2322 OR TWEET US AT CPAC TV OR E-MAIL US AT CPAC.CA .>>>JOINING US FOR THIS HOUR OF THE FAMILIAR ARE JUSTIN LING AND TONDA MacCHARLES. TONDA, WHAT’S AT STAKE?>>TO BE HONEST, I HAVE PRETTY LOW EXPECTATIONS RIGHT NOW OF THE ABILITY OF ANY GOOD, CLEAR CONVERSATION BETWEEN TWO OF THE MAIN PARTY LEADERS. I THINK THAT THE FORMAT IS GOING TO LEND ITSELF TO A CACOPHONY, BUT WE’LL SEE. LOW EXPECTATIONS CAN BE EXCEEDED.>>Mark: IT DOES SEEM LIKE THE DYNAMICS ARE CHALLENGING. FIRST OF ALL YOU HAVE FIVE MODERATORS IN TWO HOURS, WHICH MEANS THEY’LL EACH BE MODERATING CHUNKS OF THE DEBATE, AND THEY’RE ALL VERY, VERY STRONG PEOPLE. BUT WHEN YOU’RE NOT SOLELY IN CHARGE OF SOMETHING, IT’S MORE DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE. THERE WON’T BE A FLOW, SAME FLOW, THERE WOULD BE WITH ONE MODERATOR.>>THERE’S ALSO AN ADDED ELEMENT WHERE THEY’RE TAKING QUESTIONS FROM CANADIANS, THEY’VE PARSED THROUGH ALMOST 9,000 QUESTIONS TO COME UP WITH QUESTIONS FROM CANADIANS IN EACH OF THOSE FIVE SEGMENTS, SO I THINK IT’S GOING TO BE — I HOPE THAT THERE WILL BE SOME ONE-ON-ONE EXCHANGES AND A FEW TWO OR THREE-WAY EXCHANGES THAT WILL BE ENLIGHTENING. I DID FRANKLY FIND THE TVA DEBATE ENLIGHTENING. LET’S HOPE FOR THE BEST.>>Mark: THE OTHER CHALLENGE OF COURSE IS THAT YOU’VE GOT FIVE DIFFERENT TOPICS, WHICH MEANS YOU’LL SPEND ABOUT 20 MINUTES ON EACH OF THEM, GIVE OR TAKE A COUPLE OF MINUTES, WHICH MEANS WITHIN THAT 20 MINUTES THERE WILL BE SIX LEADERS TALKING ABOUT THAT TOPIC WHICH MEANS THEY’LL EACH ONLY GET 3 TO 4 MINUTES TO BOTH PUT THEIR OWN POSITION ACROSS, RESPOND TO WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE SAYING, CHALLENGE OTHER PEOPLE ON THEIR POSITIONS, SO IT’S GOING TO BE TIGHT.>>IT’S GOING TO BE INTERESTING PAUSE AT THE VERY LEAST, JAGMEET SINGH, ELIZABETH MAY, ANDREW SCHEER HAVE HAD A BIT MORE PREP THAN THE OTHER LEADERS. THEY’VE ALL HAD THE ENGLISH MACLEAN’S DEBATE, THE TVO DEBATE, AND YOU SAW A SIGNIFICANT SHIFT IN THE WAY JAGMEET SINGH WAS DEBATING. IN THE FIRST DEBATE, THE PRIME MINISTER WASN’T THERE. HE HAD A HABIT GETTING A QUESTION AND TURNING TO THE CAMERA AND GOING, FRIENDS, MY PLAN TO TAX THE RICH… AND HE WASN’T RESPONDING TO ANYTHING THAT WAS SAID ON STAGE AND MADE HIM A BIT IRRELEVANT. IN THE TVO DEBATE HE WAS MUCH MORE FORCEFUL.>>MAY WASN’T THERE AND BERNIER WASN’T THERE. IT WAS A MUCH SLIMMED-DOWN FORMAT IN TERMS OF ALL OF THAT.>>THAT’S DEFINITELY TRUE, BUT I THINK TO SOME DEGREE THEY FOUND A BIT OF A RHYTHM TO GET INTO. MAYBE HE WILL GO BACK BECAUSE IT’S SO CROWDED AND MAYBE HE’LL TRY TO MAKE THAT PITCH AGAIN. IF HE DOESN’T, IT WILL BE DO HIS DETRIMENT. BUT I THINK BEING WARMED UP AND HAVING MORE EXPERIENCE AND DEBATE PREP, A LOT OF THESE ARE FIRST TIME LEADERS. I THINK THEY’LL MAKE A DIFFERENCE TONIGHT.>>IT IS WORTH POINTING OUT. I TRY TO UNDERSCORE THIS AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE, BUT THIS IS A VERY UNFAMILIAR KIND OF THING TO DO, RIGHT. IT’S NOT THE KIND OF THING THAT EVERYBODY IS PREPARED FOR AND USED TO. EVEN IF YOU DO SOME REHEARSING BEFORE HAND IT’S A CHALLENGING ENVIRONMENT TO STEP INTO A ROOM WHERE YOU KNOW THE WHOLE COUNTRY IS WATCHING, THERE ARE BRIGHT LIGHTS, AND THERE’S A BUNCH OF OTHER PEOPLE TRYING TO TALK AND THROW YOU OFF YOUR GAME.>>PRESUMABLY ALL OF THEM HAVE HAD EXPERIENCE WALKING INTO BIG ROOMS, TRYING TO COMMAND A ROOM, AND ALSO IN THE COURSE OF THEIR LEADERSHIP HAS GONE THROUGH SOME DEBATE. I’M NOT PREPARED TO GIVE ANYONE A GET OUT OF JAIL FREE PASS YET.>>Mark: I’M NOT SAYING THAT.>>I THINK THIS IS A MOMENT THEY HAVE TO STEP UP TO. THEY HAVE TO RAISE THEIR GAME. I THINK JUST WHAT WE SAID EARLIER, IT’S THE FORMAT THAT WILL CHALLENGE EVERYBODY. MOSTLY THE LISTENERS.>>YEAH. IT’S SO MANY PEOPLE ON STAGE, EVEN JUST FROM A DYNAMIC STANDPOINT, HAVING THAT MANY PEOPLE ON STAGE, IT’S GOING TO MAKE CAMERA ANGLES MORE DIFFICULT, HARD TO KEEP TRACK OF WHO’S TALKING AT WHO. WE’VE SEEN THIS WITH THE REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC DEBATES THE LAST LITTLE WHILE. JUST THAT SHEER VOLUME OF PEOPLE MAKES DEBATES DIFFICULT, LOGISTICALLY DIFFICULT.>>Mark: LET’S GET BACK TO YOUR OPINIONS ABOUT THE DEBATE TONIGHT. WE’RE VERY INTERESTED TO HEAR FROM YOU ON WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE HAPPEN TONIGHT, HOW BIG A FACTOR THIS WILL BE IN HOW YOU DECIDE ON HOW YOU’RE GOING TO VOTE. LET’S TAKE A CALL FROM ALLAN IN CHILLIWACK, BRITISH COLUMBIA. HELLO, ALLAN.>>Caller: MY QUESTION IS — IT’S ABOUT TAX. HOW DID BRIAN MULRONEY GET AWAY WITH LYING ABOUT THE GST WHEN HE WAS ASKED THE QUESTION IF THIS TAX WOULD BE APPLIED ON FOOD. RIGHT IN PARLIAMENT HE SAID THAT THE TAX WOULD NOT BE APPLIED ON FOOD. THAT WAS A LIE BECAUSE THAT TAX IS ON FOOD.>>Mark: IT’S NOT APPLIED TO GROCERIES. IT APPLIES TO RESTAURANT FOOD AND SOME KINDS OF FOODS AND PRODUCTS.>>Caller: HE WAS ASKED THE QUESTION IF IT WOULD BE TAX ON FOOD.>>Mark: CAN SKI WHAT THIS HAS S TO DO WITH THE DEBATE TONIGHT OR THIS YEAR’S ELECTION?>>Caller: IT HAS TO DO WITH THE CONSERVATIVES, WHAT THEY’RE SAYING ABOUT TAXES. THEIR RECORD — THEY LIE ABOUT WHAT THEY’RE GOING TO DO. THEY’RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT.>>Mark: YOU’RE HOLDING ANDREW SCHEER ACCOUNTABLE FOR SOMETHING THAT BRIAN MULRONEY SAID 30 YEARS AGO?>>YEAH. THE CONSERVATIVES LIED IN PARLIAMENT ON THAT.>>Mark: EVEN THOUGH IT WAS DIFFERENT PEOPLE THEN.>>Caller: IT DOESN’T MATTER. THEY STILL LIED ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO WITH THAT TAX.>>Mark: OKAY. THEY WERE DIFFERENT PEOPLE AT THE TIME. SO IS ANDREW SCHEER ACCOUNTABLE FOR EVERYTHING THAT EVERY CONSERVATIVE LEADER SINCE CONFEDERATION HAS SAID?>>Caller: WELL, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY’RE TRYING TO MAKE TRUDEAU THE SAME SCAPEGOAT. WHENEVER YOU LISTEN TO — IN PARLIAMENT, THEY’RE ALL BRINGING UP THE PAST OF WHAT THAT PARTY DID AND THIS PARTY DID.>>Mark: OKAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CALL. LET’S GO TO GLADYS IN GUELPH, ONTARIO. HELLO, GLADYS. GLADYS, GO AHEAD.>>Caller: YES, I’M A SENIOR, AND SO KEEPING SENIORS IN THEIR APARTMENTS AND HOMES IS VERY IMPORTANT, AND NOBODY’S EVEN TALKING ABOUT IT. NONE OF THE MEMBERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ARGUING TONIGHT ARE EVEN CONCERNED ABOUT SENIOR CARE THIS THEIR HOME TO KEEP THEM THERE. THERE AREN’T ANY BEDS ANYWAY IN ANY OF THE NURSING HOMES. SO THIS IS WHAT THE TRUDEAU GOVERNMENT HAS DONE, PUT US AT WE’RE JUST HERE. THE OTHER VERY IMPORTANT POINT IS THE DOUG FORD GOVERNMENT IS DRAWING BACK ON EXECS PAY, WHICH IS VERY GOOD, BECAUSE THE MONEY SHOULD BE GOING TO THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT, ET CETERA. AND SO THEY CHARGE YOU ANYWAY FOR HOUSE CLEANING, $35 FOR TWO HOURS, AND THEY RECOMMEND YOU HAVE THREE HOURS, AND THEY RECOMMEND MAYBE TWICE A MONTH, BUT YOU COULD HAVE IT ONCE. THE OTHER THING IS WHO THEY’RE HIRING, THE GOVERNMENT PROGRAM, I FORGET WHAT THEY CALL IT NOW BECAUSE IT’S CHANGED, BUT THEY ARE HIRING INDEPENDENT — THEY’RE NOT ACTUALLY HIRING THEM. THEY HAVE CONTACT WITH A PERSON NEEDING THE HOUSE CLEANING AND WITH THE INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR –>>Mark: GLADYS, I’M GOING TO JUMP IN BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER CALLS. I APPRECIATE THE FACT YOU WANT TO SEE SENIORS STAY HAD THEIR OWN HOMES FOR LONGER –>>Caller: I’D LIKE TO SEE ANDREW SCHEER COME UP WITH SOMETHING. THANK YOU.>>Mark: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CALL. LET’S TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING ON SOCIAL MEDIA USING THE HASHTAG CPAC VOTE 2019. AGAIN, WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU ON WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE HAPPEN IN THE LEADERS’ DEBATE TONIGHT. THIS PERSON WRITES… THOSE ARE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WE’VE HAD ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND COMMENTS. LET’S GO TO KAREN IN REGINA. HELLO, KAREN.>>Caller: HI, HOW ARE YOU?>>Mark: FINE, THANK YOU.>>Caller: YEAH. I WAS LISTENING TO THE DEBATE WITH MR. SINGH, AM I PRONOUNCING THAT CORRECTLY?>>Mark: YEAH.>>Caller: MR. TRUDEAU AS WELL. THE FACT THAT ANDREW SCHEER, WHETHER OR NOT HE COULD SPEAK FRENCH OR NOT, SHOULDN’T MATTER. AT ALL. LIKE, WE HAVE BIGGER ISSUES, AS YOU’VE HEARD TODAY. THE ELDERLY PEOPLE AND THE PROPER CARE, THE TAXES, THE CARBON TAXES. THESE ARE BIG ISSUES. VERY, VERY BIG ISSUES. AND ME AND MY COMMON-LAW HUSBAND MOVED OUT TO SASKATCHEWAN FROM THE SMALL TOWN OF MIRAMICHI CITY. I REALLY AM SAYING THIS FROM THE DEEPEST PART OF MY HEART THAT THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO JOBS THERE. PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING IMMENSELY. THEY ARE LOSING THEIR PROPERTY BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS ON WELFARE. THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT WANT THAT PIPELINE TO GO THROUGH OR EVEN ANYTHING. SOLAR, ANYTHING THAT WILL GIVE THEM A JOB. THE JOB THING IS A BIG ISSUE. WE’VE MOVED TO EVERY PROVINCE TO TRY TO STAY AFLOAT, AND WE ARE BARELY STAYING AFLOAT. BARELY, BARELY. AND IT’S BECOME — IT’S LITERALLY LIKE THEY’RE BEING OBTUSE ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE COULD SPEAK FRENCH OR NOT. NOBODY CARES. THERE WERE MORE NATIVES THAN THERE ARE FRENCH PEOPLE, AND IN SCHOOL I HAD TO TAKE FRENCH. I DON’T EVEN REMEMBER WHAT I LEARNED WAY BACK THEN. AND ANOTHER THING IS THE DUAL CITIZENSHIP. I HAVE DUAL CITIZENSHIP. MY ANCESTORS HAVE DUAL CITIZENSHIP. ALL NATIVES HAVE DUAL CITIZENSHIP. NOW THAT WE’RE ALL COMING OFF RESERVATION TO VOTE OFF THE RESERVE, WE WERE NEVER EDUCATED ON THAT. I HOPE ANDREW SCHEER REALLY TAKES THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND ACTUALLY TAKES A VISIT TO NEW BRUNSWICK AND SEES JUST HOW BAD THINGS ARE.>>Mark: ALL RIGHT, KAREN, I’LL JUMP IN. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR CALL. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE. NEXT UP IS KELLY IN CALGARY. HELLO, KELLY.>>Caller: GOOD AFTERNOON, THANKS FOR TAKING MY CALL. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EITHER MR. SCHEER, MAY, SINGH, BERNIER, ANYONE OR ALL OF THESE CANDIDATES, CALLING OUT MR. TRUDEAU ON HIS TRACK RECORD FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS. I’D LIKE TO HEAR HIM EXPLAIN AWAY THIS DEFICIT THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SURPLUS. THIS BROWN OR BLACKFACE BEHAVIOUR. THE BULLYING OF RAYBOLD AND PHILPOTT AND ANOTHER MP IN PARLIAMENT. I’D LIKE TO SEE HOW HE CAN BE SO ANTI-PIPELINE BUT SPEND $4 .5 BILLION TAXPAYER DOLLARS JUST TOGY SOME VOTES. THEY NEED TO GET IN HIS FACE AND CALL HIM OUT ON HIS BEHAVIOUR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.>>Mark: THANK YOU FOR YOUR CALL. NEXT UP IS CHRIS IN LONDON, ONTARIO. HELLO, CHRIS.>>Caller: HI, MARK. AND TONDA AND JUSTIN. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE BASICALLY TWO THINGS HAPPEN TONIGHT, AND THE FIRST ONE BEING MR. SCHEER CONFRONTING TRUDEAU ON WHY HE REFUSES TO LIFT THE BAN ON THE NINE WITNESSES THAT THE ETHICS COMMISSIONER WANTED TO INTERVIEW REGARDING THE SNC SCANDAL AND ALSO HOW HE PROPOSES, SHOULD THE LIBERALS FORM GOVERNMENT AFTER THE ELECTION, HOW HE PROPOSES TO CONTEND WITH THE INCREASE IN WESTERN SEPARATIST SENTIMENT IS AND ALIENATION BECAUSE THE LIBERALS ARE LIKELY TO BE WIPED OUT FROM THE BC TO MANITOBA BORDER FROM EVERYTHING I’M READING, BOTH ALBERTA AND SASKATCHEWAN. AND IF THEY DON’T HAVE ANY — THEY HAVE A FEW MPs IN ALBERTA NOW, AND THEN RALPH GOODALE IN SASKATCHEWAN. BUT RALPH MAY BE SAFE BUT THAT’S PROBABLY IT. IF THE LIBERALS DON’T HAVE ANYBODY FROM THOSE PROVINCES, I HAVE MANY FRIENDS IN CALGARY, AND THEY’RE IRATE. THEY’RE JUST LIVID. IF THE LIBERALS WIN, I’M WORRIED ABOUT NATIONAL UNITY, I REALLY AM. I THINK IT COULD BE A SERIOUS REVOLT.>>Mark: THANK YOU FOR YOUR CALL. LET’S TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP HERE. JUSTIN, ON THAT LAST POINT, WHAT’S YOUR SENSE OF THE EXTENT OF THE WESTERN SEPARATIST MOVEMENT AND HOW LIKELY IT IS TO DEVELOP FURTHER IF THERE ISN’T PROGRESS ON THINGS LIKE PIPELINES AND SO ON.>>I DON’T THINK THE SEPARATIST MOVEMENT ITSELF WILL BE A SERIOUS THREAT, AT LEAST NOT IN THE SHORT-TERM. I THINK THAT FRUSTRATION AND ANGER IS VERY PALPABLE AND WILL BE VERY POTENT. IF THE WEST DOES NOT FEEL LIKE IT’S IN IN THIS PARLIAMENT, SOMETHING WILL COME OF THAT. WHETHER THAT IS MORE SUPPORT FOR MAXIME BERNIER’S PARTY OR A NEW FEDERAL PARTY OR WHETHER PROVINCIAL DEPOSITS THAT START TURNING MORE AWAY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. ALL THOSE ARE POSSIBLE. I DON’T KNOW THAT IT WILL BE A COMPLETE WIPEOUT FOR THE LIBERALS. I WAS JUST IN EDMONTON. IT DOESN’T LOOK TO ME LIKE THE LIBERALS ARE GOING TO DO REAL WELL IN ALBERTA. I THINK IT’S VERY, VERY REAL THEY’LL WIN NO SEATS THERE. THE ENTIRE PROVINCE COULD GO BLUE. THERE’S A CHANCE THEY COULD KEEP EDMONTON STRATHCONA. I THINK THEY KEEP SEATS IN WINNIPEG. RALPH GOODALE PROBABLY KEEPS HIS SITE. I THINK THEY’LL KEEP A COUPLE SEATS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA. THE FACT ALL OF THOSE RIDINGS ARE PREDOMINANTLY URBAN I THINK CREATES A REAL PROBLEM FOR THE TRUDEAU LIBERALS. HOW DO YOU GOVERN KNOWING YOU HAVE NO REPRESENTATION IN THE RURAL WEST WHERE FRUSTRATION WITH YOUR POLICIES HAS BEEN SO DEEP-ROOTED? I DON’T KNOW. I DON’T THINK THE LIBERAL GOVERNMENT KNOWS EITHER. I THINK FOR THEM THAT WILL BE A QUESTION FOR AFTER THIS ELECTION BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT PANDERING OR EVEN JUST ADDRESSING THE WEST IN THAT RURAL DIVIDE ISN’T GOING TO WIN THEM MANY VOTES THIS TILE AROUND.>>Mark: TONDA, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE DIRECTION THIS CAMPAIGN IS GOING? WE’VE SEEN POLL AFTER POLL AFTER POLL THAT HAS SHOWN A VERY NARROW GAP BETWEEN THE LIBERALS AND THE CONSERVATIVES OR THE CONSERVATIVES AND THE LIBERALS. USUALLY WITHIN THE MARGIN OF ERROR. BUT THERE ARE MANY EXPERTS ON POLLING AND THE PEOPLE WHO DO THE SEAT PROJECTIONS AND THE AGGREGATION WHO SAY THAT IF IT’S CLOSE, IT GOES TO THE LIBERALS, JUST BASED ON HOW THE VOTES ARE DISTRIBUTED ACROSS THE COUNTRY.>>THE LIBERALS HAVE MORE WHAT’S CALLED VOTE EFFICIENCY, SO THEY’RE ABLE TO — THE CONSERVATIVES WIN BIG IN THE WEST, WIN BIG IN RIDINGS, BUT THERE AREN’T AS MANY RIDINGS IN WHICH THEY WIN. THE LIBERALS YES, THEY HAVE A MORE EFFICIENT VOTE. THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THIS CAMPAIGN, MY PERCEPTION IS THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THOSE CALLERS TALKED ABOUT HOW NOBODY’S TALKING ABOUT SENIORS. ALL OF THE PARTIES ARE TALKING ABOUT SENIORS. ALL OF THE PARTIES HAVE ROLLED OUT POLICIES TO ADDRESS SENIORS. THE CONSERVATIVES HAVE PROMISED AN ENHANCED AGE CREDIT, THE LIBERALS HAVE PROMISED ENHANCEMENTS TO SURVIVORS’ PENSIONS, CPP ENHANCEMENTS, GREATER PAYMENTS UNDER OSA. THEY’VE BROUGHT THEIR AGE DOWN FOR QUALIFICATION FOR OAS. THE NDP HAS A SENIORS STRATEGY. SO DO THE GREENS. THE INTERESTING TO THING TO ME IS POLICY HASN’T PUNCHED THROUGH. CANADIANS SORT OF FEEL LIKE THERE’S A FOG OUT THERE, AND THEY’RE NOT HEARING WHAT THE PARTIES ARE ACTUALLY PROMISING ON MANY THINGS. PEOPLE SAY THERE’S NO REAL DISCUSSION ABOUT ENVIRONMENT. ACTUALLY THERE’S A HUGE DISCUSSION POLICY-WISE GOING ON ON ENVIRONMENT AMONG THE PARTIES AND BETWEEN THEM. I DON’T KNOW WHY IT’S ALL NOT PUNCHING THROUGH. MAYBE BECAUSE CANADIANS HAVE HEARD SO MUCH SLOGANEERING BY PARTIES FOR MONTHS NOW THAT THEY’RE NOT FOCUSED ON DETAIL. FOR ME THE WHOLE THING SEEMS TO BE COMING DOWN TO QUESTIONS OF LEADERSHIP.>>WHAT IS INTERESTING IS ONE THING I SAW IN THE TWEETS IS FOREIGN POLICY. I REALIZE CANADIAN ELECTIONS NEVER REALLY TALK ABOUT FOREIGN POLICY. WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A DEBATE ON THIS. UNFORTUNATELY TRUDEAU DIDN’T GO SO IT GOT CANCELLED. IT WAS IS INCREDIBLY PRESSING. IN THE LAST 24 HOURS THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAS ANNOUNCED THEY’RE GOING TO GREEN LIGHT AN INVASION OF NORTHERN SYRIA WHICH WILL IMPACT OUR KURDISH ALLIES AND PUTS IN JEOPARDY THE CANADIAN MISSION IN IRAQ. HOW THAT’S NOT BEEN ON THIS CAMPAIGN TRAIL IS TROUBLING. HOW WE INTEND ON REPLACING THE VOID OF AMERICAN LEADERSHIP ON THE WORLD STAGE I THINK IS A QUESTION. IT’S NOT BEING ADDRESSED. THERE WILL BE A SECTION OF DEBATE TONIGHT BUT I DON’T EXPECT THERE TO BE THOUGHTFUL ANSWERS FROM IT.>>Mark: I THINK IT’S FAIR TO SAY TWO OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES THAT THE TRUDEAU GOVERNMENT HAS HAD TO GRAPPLE WITH IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS HAVE BEEN CANADA’S RELATIONSHIP WITH THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA’S RELATIONSHIP WITH CHINA.>>THE CRITICISM FROM THE OTHER PARTIES HAS BEEN WEAK. IT HAS BEEN INCOHERENT. THE OTHER PARTIES HAVE HAD EVEN WORSE CAMPAIGN TACTICS ON FOREIGN POLICY THAN THE LIBERALS HAVE IN THIS CAMPAIGN.>>Mark: WE HAVE BEEN HEARING FROM YOU ON THE PHONE LINES, ON E-MAIL, AND SOCIAL MEDIA. YOU CAN ALSO SEND US A VIDEO MESSAGE WITH YOUR THOUGHTS. HERE ARE THREE COMMENTS FROM VIEWERS IN ALBERTA, SASKATCHEWAN, AND NOVA SCOTIA…>>I’M MEG REYNOLDS, A GRAIN FARMENER SASKATCHEWAN, CANADA. WHAT I WANT TO HEAR FROM OUR FEDERAL LEADERS IN TONIGHT’S DEBATE IS WE’RE SEEING A TREND TOWARDS PROTECTIONISM AND THE UTILIZATION OF TARIFFS TO ACHIEVE SHORT-TERM GAINS. AS A FARMER MY LARGEST UNCERTAINTY SHOULD BE THE WEATHER, NOT OUR TRADE AGREEMENTS. HOW DO YOU PROPOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FREE TRADE AGREEMENTS BOTH DOMESTICALLY AND GLOBAL THAT I WILL BENEFIT ALL OUT OF DIFFERENT SECTORS.>>I’M SO JOE, A PHOTO JOURNAL FRIST CALGARY, ALBERTA. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE IN THE DEBATE TONIGHT ABOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF UNDRIP AND FIND OUT WHY THE CONSERVATIVE SENATE BLOCK THE BILL.>>I’M KATE McDONALD FROM HALIFAX, NOVA SCOTIA. WHAT I WANT TO HEAR IN TONIGHT’S DEBATE IS HOW THEY PLAN ON DELIVERING CLEAN DRINKING WATER TO OUR INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES, HOW THEY INTEND TO UPHOLD TREATY RIGHTS, HOW THEY INTEND TO COLLABORATE AND LISTEN TO AND CONSULT INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE NATION TO DEVELOP A CLIMATE ACTION PLAN BECAUSE WE HAVE LISTENED TO INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES IN THE BEGINNING, I DON’T THINK WE WOULD BE HERE. IN TERMS OF BLACK CANADIANS, I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO ADDRESS HOW THEY PLAN TO SUPPORT US IN OUR COMMUNITIES NATIONWIDE AND OUR DIVERSITY IN EDUCATION, IN THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM, AND HOW THEY INTEND TO INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND NOT ONLY TO SERVE THEIR AGENDAS BUT SO WE CAN FUNCTION INDEPENDENTLY. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THEY INTENDS TO RECOGNIZE AND HONOUR AFRICAN NOVA SCOTIANS AT A NATIONAL LEVEL BECAUSE WE’VE BEEN HERE FOR OVER 400 YEARS, AND WE ARE INTEGRAL TO THE FABRIC OF CANADA AND WE ARE THE BEGINNING OF BLACK CULTURE HERE. I WOULD LIKE TO HERE HOW THE FEDERAL LEADERS PLAN TO ADDRESS THE HOUSING CRISIS THAT’S HAPPENING NATIONWIDE, HOW THEY INTEND TO CREATE NEW AND REVITALIZED MENTAL HEALTH REGIONS ACROSS THE NATION. YEAH. THOSE ARE A FEW OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM MY FEDERAL LEADERS TONIGHT. MARK MASH GREAT TO HAVE THOSE COMMENTS FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY. WE ARE WAITING FOR YOUR PHONE CALL. IF YOU HAVE A COMMENT ON TONIGHT’S DEBATE, I WILL REMIND THAT YOU WE WILL HAVE A SPECIAL EDITION OF HAVE YOUR SAY FOLLOWING OUR DEBATE COVERAGE ON CPAC TONIGHT, AGAIN TO WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN, THE DEBATE IS AT 7:00 EASTERN TIME FROM ACROSS THE OTTAWA RIVER IN GATINEAU, QUÉBEC, AT THE MUSEUM OF HISTORY. IT’S AT 7:00 EASTERN TIME. OUR COVERAGE ON CPAC BEGINS AT 5:00 EASTERN TIME AND CONTINUES AFTER THE DEBATE. THE DEBATE GOES FROM 7 TO 9 EASTERN AND IS PART OF THE COVERAGE. AFTER THE DEBATE WE’LL HAVE AN EDITION OF HAVE YOUR SAY WHERE YOU’LL BE ABLE TO CALL IN OR SEND US YOUR COMMENTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THOUGHT OF THE DEBATE. WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU AFTER THE DEBATE. STILL INTERESTED IN YOUR COMMENTS RIGHT NOW ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT TOP HEAR FROM THE LEADERS TONIGHT. LET’S TAKE A CALL FROM CHRIS IN COURTENAY, BRITISH COLUMBIA. HELLO, CHRIS.>>Caller: GOOD DAY. THIS IS — I DON’T KNOW HOW I’M GOING TO SAY THIS. I’D LIKE TO SEE SCHEER SPEND MAYBE 2 MINUTES TOWARDS MAX BECAUSE THEY’RE ONLY GOING TO CALL SO MANY OF THOSE WINGNUTS OFF FROM HIS SIDE SO GIVE HIM 2 MINUTES OF YOUR TIME, THAT I SEE IT. THE OTHER GUY IS ON THE LEFT. AND I WANT HIM TO LOOK STRAIGHT IN THE CAMERA AND TELL CANADIANS WHAT IS GOING TO MAKE HIM A GOOD PRIME MINISTER AND HOW IS HE GOING TO DO IT. I DON’T KNOW [INDISCERNIBLE] WISE THING TO DO BUT IT WILL BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. JUST LOOK IN THE CAMERA AND TELL US WHAT WE WANT TO HEAR. LIKE, BE AUTHENTIC.>>Mark: OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CALL. MARILYN IN MAPLE RIDGE, BRITISH COLUMBIA. HELLO.>>Caller: YES, I HAD KIND OF AN OVERALL QUESTION FOR ALL THE CANDIDATES. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEY WOULD PROPOSE AND HOW WOULD THEY PROTECT THE MINERAL RIGHTS FOR THE OCEANS, ET CETERA, IN NORTHERN CANADA, THE PROVINCE AND TERRITORIES AND THE CRUISE SHIPS ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH. YES, U.S. AND CHINA ARE LOOKING AT IT. JUST THOUGHT I’D ASK.>>Mark: THANK YOU. PHIL IN CALGARY, GO AHEAD.>>Caller: YES, HI. HI, MARK, TONDA, JUSTIN. I JUST HAD AN IDEA ABOUT A DEBATE, KIND OF A REVERSE DEBATE, CALLED MEET THE LEADER WHERE YOU WOULD BE — WHERE THE LEADERS, EACH INDIVIDUAL LEADER, WOULD BE DRILLED BY POLITICAL AND MEDIA EXPERTS IN ENGLISH AND IN FRENCH, SORT OF LIKE A TOWN HALL, AND QUESTIONS COULD BE SENT BY THE PUBLIC ALSO, AND THEY WOULD BE DRILLED, EACH LEADER WOULD BE DRILLED, LIKE I SAID, BY EXPERTS, AND THAT WAY WE WOULD GET TO KNOW EACH LEADER INDIVIDUALLY. SO THAT’S MY COMMENT. THANK YOU.>>Mark: I GUESS THAT EXISTS TO SOME EXTENT. THERE ARE INTERVIEWS THAT HAPPEN, THEY DO TOWN HALLS SOMETIMES, I’M NOT SURE IF YOU WANTED TO CONVINCE THE LEADERS TO DO IT YOU’D USE THE WORD “DRILLED” OVER AND OVER AGAIN.>>I THINK WHAT HE’S GETTING AT IS HAVE A CLIMATE CHANGE SCIENTIST DISCUSS WITH THE LEADERS WHAT YOUR CLIMATE CHANGE POLICY IS.>>CBC DID THEIR ONE-ON-ONE THING.>>ORDINARY CANADIANS BRINGING THEIR QUESTIONS, HAVING — TRYING TO HAVE AN AUTHENTIC CONVERSATION, LEADER BY LEADER, THEN A JOURNALIST FOLLOWING UP. SURE, WE’D ALL LOVE — BUT YOU KNOW, THERE WOULD EVEN THEN, I THINK, IN THIS POLARIZED ATMOSPHERE, BE A DEBATE AROUND WHAT IS THE POLITICAL OR PARTISAN LEANING OF THE SCIENTIST OR THE EXPERT BRINGING THE QUESTIONS. WE’RE IN A SPACE WHERE PEOPLE HAVE A GREAT DISTRUST OF EXPERTS.>>I HAVE A WEIRD PERSPECTIVE ON THIS BECAUSE –>>YOU’RE AN EXPERT.>>NO, NO. NOT EVEN REMOTELY. LAST ELECTION, I WAS WORKING FOR VICE NEWS AND WE SET UP EXACTLY THAT FORMAT OF INTERVIEW. UNFORTUNATELY, THE PRIME MINISTER DID NOT WANT TO COME, STEPHEN HARPER REFUSED OUR INVITATION, BUT JUSTIN TRUDEAU AND THOMAS MULCAIR CAME ON AND WE GRILLED THEM, JOURNALISTS GRILLED THEM, WE HAD EXPERTS IN THE AUDIENCE AND RANDOM FOLKS. I THOUGHT THEY WERE THE MOST INFORMATIVE, THOUGHTFUL MOMENTS OF THE DEBATE. THE PROBLEM IS THE LEADERS AND THE PARTIES HATE THEM IF THEY’RE IN GOVERNMENT. OPPOSITION PARTIES LOVE TO DO THEM. THOSE IN GOVERNMENT WILL NEVER AGREE. THAT’S THE BARRIER.>>Mark: THAT’S ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE’VE HAD HISTORICALLY WITH THE DEBATES THEMSELVES IS THAT THE PARTIES HAVE TO AGREE TO THE FORMAT. THE PARTIES HAVE TO AGREE TO THE STRUCTURE AND HOW MANY THERE ARE. I THINK THERE WERE SOME CANADIANS WHO WERE HOPEFUL THAT WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A DEBATE COMMISSION THAT THE DEBATE COMMISSION WOULD SIMPLY SAY LOOK, HERE’S WHAT’S IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF CANADIANS. WE’RE NOT GOING TO NEGOTIATE WITH YOU. WE’RE JUST GOING TO TELL YOU THERE ARE GOING TO BE FOUR DEBATES ON THESE FOUR TOPICS AND HERE’S WHO’S COMING AND HERE’S WHO’S NOT, AND HERE’S WHAT THE FORMAT IS. AND IT’S NOT UP TO THE PARTIES TO SAY WHETHER YOU LIKE THIS OR NOT. YOU EITHER SHOW UP OR YOU DON’T. AND THERE IS STILL THE CONSORTIUM DYNAMIC STILL EXISTS TODAY WHERE IT IS PARTLY ABOUT WHAT THE TV NETWORKS WANT FOR THEIR OWN PURPOSES AND THEY TEND TO WANT FEWER DEBATES BECAUSE THEY DON’T WANT TO GIVE UP PRIME TIME PROGRAMMING AND IT’S ABOUT WHAT THE PARTY LEADERS AND SOME OF THE PARTY LEADERS HAVE AN INTEREST IN FEWER DEBATES BECAUSE THEY’RE FRONTRUNNERS.>>THE LENGTH OF THE CAMPAIGN ALSO AFFECTS THIS. SIGNIFICANTLY HARDER TO HAVE A NUMBER OF SPECIAL EVENTS WHEN YOUR CAMPAIGN IS SIX WEEKS.>>LAST TIME IT WAS 73 DAYS OR SOMETHING. LOTS OF TIME. BUT THERE WAS CHERRY PICKING –>>Mark: WHEN THE CAMPAIGN BEGINS DOESN’T REALLY MATTER BECAUSE WE KNOW — THERE WAS A DEBATE THAT WAS SCHEDULED FOR BEFORE THE CAMPAIGN COULD HAVE BEGUN. YOU CAN HAVE DEBATES THREE MONTHS BEFORE THE ELECTION. WE KNOW WHEN THE ELECTION IS GOING TO BE AM WE DON’T HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE WRIT TO DROP IN ORDER TO HAVE DEBATES.>>THE WEIRD THIN NOW IS EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT TO SET UP AN INDEPENDENT, NON-PARTISAN DEBATE COMMISSION THAT WOULD SET OUT A FORMAT THAT SHOULD APPEAL TO EVERYBODY, THE LIBERALS WHO SET UP THAT COMMISSION OPTED TO DO A DEBATE OUTSIDE THAT FRAMEWORK. KIND OF UNDERCUTS ALL THEIR ARGUMENTS ABOUT WHY THIS IS — THIS COMMISSION HAD TO SET THE –>>THE QUÉBEC DEBATE, [INDISCERNIBLE] QUÉBEC VOTES. IT’S VERY TRANSPARENT. THE LIBERALS VERY CLEARLY WANTED THE SHORTEST CAMPAIGN POSSIBLE AND THE FEWEST NUMBER OF DEBATES POSSIBLE BECAUSE SURPRISE, SURPRISE, THE LIBERALS ARE LIKE.>>Melanie: PARTY. WHEN YOU GET IN GOVERNMENT, THE LAST THING YOU WANT TO DO IS DEFEND YOUR RECORD.>>Mark: AND THEY WANT TO WIN. THEY WANT THE DYNAMICS TO BE STRUCTURED IN A WAY THAT WILL HELP THEM WIN. THE EXTENT THAT THEY HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THE PROCESS, THAT’S WHERE I THINK IT GETS PROBLEMATIC. THAT’S WHY I THINK SOME PEOPLE WOULD PREFER A SYSTEM WHERE IT’S JUST HERE’S WHAT WE’RE DOING, AND YOU EITHER SHOW UP OR YOU DON’T.>>I THINK THAT’S WHAT THIS WAS. THE COMMISSION SET OUT HOW THE THING WOULD UNFOLD.>>I THINK THE COMMISSION IS TERRIFIED OF EVER LOOKING EVEN SLIGHTLY PARTISAN BY HAVING AN EXPERT ON THAT MAY BE WAS A MEMBER OF THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY TEN YEARS AGO OR ASK A QUESTION THAT SEEMS TO LEAN TOO MUCH TOWARDS THE [INDISCERNIBLE] WHATEVER. I THINK THE CONCERN IS PERFECTIVE AND HOW THE PUBLIC VIEWS AS NON-PARTISAN.>>Mark: LET’S IF BACK TO YOUR COMMENTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA. LET’S TAKE A LOOK… THANK YOU FOR ALL THOSE COMMENTS. KEEP THEM COMING. WE’LL GO TO SHERRY IN WINNIPEG. HELLO, SHERRY.>>Caller: HELLO.>>Mark: HI, GO AHEAD CALL CAW THANKS FOR HAVING ME ON. I WAS JUST WANTING TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT WESTERN ALIENATION AND WHAT I’D LIKE TO HEAR IN THE DEBATE.>>Mark: GO AHEAD.>>Caller: MY COMMENT CONCERNS THE 2015 PROMISE TO MAKE ALL VOTES COUNT AND FIRST-PAST-THE-POST. IF JUSTIN TRUDEAU HADN’T BETRAYED US AND WE WERE ACTUALLY GOING INTO THIS ELECTION WITH PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION, ALBERTA COULDN’T — PROBABLY WOULDN’T SEND ALL 34 MPs UNDER THE CPC BANNER TO OTTAWA. IN FACT, I THINK ALBERTA MIGHT ONLY SEND 21CPC MPs. THAT WOULD SORT OF BREAK UP THE MONOLITH OF ALBERTA SEPARATISM, AND I THINK IN QUÉBEC IT WOULD BE KIND OF THE SAME STORY BECAUSE IT WOULD BE PROPORTIONATE. FIRST-PAST-THE-POST DISTORTS THE RESULTS. AND I JUST WISH THAT WE HAD MORE TALK THIS ELECTION ABOUT PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION, ALTHOUGH I DO KNOW THAT THE NDP AND THE GREENS DO SUPPORT THAT. WE WOULDN’T BE SUFFERING FROM WESTERN ALIENATION TO THE DEGREE THAT WE WILL BE IF WE HAD PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION. YEAH. I DON’T KNOW IF THAT WILL COME UP TONIGHT, BUT YOU KNOW, ALIENATION IS REARING ITS HEAD. PIERRE ELLIOTT TRUDEAU DID COMMENT WAY BACK WHEN THAT CANADA WOULD NEED PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION TO UNIFY THE COUNTRY, BUT UNFORTUNATELY OUR POLITICIANS ONLY SORT OF CONSIDER THEIR OWN I POWER AND JOCKEYING THEMSELVES FOR THE BEST POSITION TO TAKE POWER, AND THEY DON’T LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE OF PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION.>>Mark: SHERRY, THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS MARGE FROM ABBOTTSFORD, BRITISH COLUMBIA. HELLO, MARGE.>>Caller: HOW ARE YOU?>>Mark: FINE, THANKS.>>Caller: GOOD. WHAT I’M REALLY HOPING IS THAT TONIGHT THERE’S NO BASHING OF ALL THE STUFF THAT’S HAPPENED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, LIKE WITH THIS CHINA, WHEN I WATCH CPAC AND HOW THEY WENT AFTER THE LIBERALS. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS WHY DON’T THEY TURN THE QUESTION AROUND AND SAY TO ONE OF THE LEADERS WHAT WOULD YOU BE DOING ABOUT CHINA? WHAT WOULD YOU DO THAT’S DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE’RE DOING? RATHER THAN THEM BASHING. WE’RE ON A NEW PLATFORM NOW. WE’RE NOT ON THE OLD PLATFORM ANYMORE. I’M GETTING TIRED OF LISTENING PEOPLE GO ON AND ON ABOUT THE PAST, THE PAST, THE PAST. SOMETIMES THE PAST DOESN’T ALWAYS WORK OUT TO THE WAY YOU WANT THE FUTURE, AND JUST ONE MORE COMMENT: I WAS SHOPPING THE OTHER DAY, AND THEY’RE STILL HANDING OUT PLASTIC BAGS, AND I SAID OUT LOUD, YOU KNOW, THIS JUST ISN’T A GOVERNMENT THING. THIS IS FOR ALL CANADIANS TO GET INVOLVED IN. YOU HAVE TO PUT THE EFFORT INTO IT ALSO, AND I THINK THIS IS WHAT THE LIBERAL GOVERNMENT IS DOING. THEY’RE WORKING WITH CORPORATIONS AND COMPANIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM. BUT I’M REALLY MAD AT THE PUBLIC BECAUSE I REALLY THINK THEY SHOULD BE PART AND START DOING THEIR PART ‘CAUSE WHEN I SEE PEOPLE STILL GETTING PLASTIC BAGS AND THEY CAN BUY THE USABLE ONES, IT REALLY BOTHERS ME THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.>>Mark: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CALL. LET’S GO TO DONALD IN FAIRVIEW, ALBERTA. HELLO, DONALD.>>Caller: HELLO THERE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I — LONG STORY SHORT N HIGH SCHOOL BACK IN ’91, ’92, I TOOK A LAW CLASS. THE TEACHER TOLD ME IF THERE’S ONE THING YOU GUYS TAKE AWAY FROM THIS CLASS, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WHEN YOU VOTE, NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE UNDECIDED, BUT IF OUT OF THE VOTERS WHO COME OUT TO VOTE FOR THE ELECTION, IF A CERTAIN AMOUNT VOTE UNDECIDED, THE ELECTION IS NULL AND VOID. AND THEY HAVE TO REMOVE THE CANDIDATES AND CALL NEW CANDIDATES. SO UNLESS THEY HAVE CHANGED THE LAW SINCE THEN, THE PEOPLE DON’T KNOW THIS. THEY’RE BEING TOLD YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR ONE OF THESE PEOPLE. BUT YET THAT’S NOT DEMOCRACY. IF I’M BEING TOLD I HAVE TO VOT->>Mark: I DON’T THINK THAT’S THE CASE. I DON’T THINK THAT’S THE CASE, DONALD.>>YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE YOUR BALLOT.>>Mark: YOU CAN REFUSE YOUR BALLOT OR SPOIL YOUR BALLOT. BUT IF EVERYBODY BUT ONE PERSON VOTES, SPOILS THEIR BALLOT, REFUSES THEIR BALLOT –>>Caller: IT’S NOT SPOILING THE BALLOT. YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THERE’S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SPOILING A BALLOT AND VOTING UNDECIDED.>>Mark: I DON’T THINK THERE IS.>>Caller: THAT’S THE KEY POINT. THAT’S WHAT I’M TRYING TO SAY. THAT’S THE POINT THAT THE LAW SAID BACK IN THE DAY. WHEN THEY DID THIS –>>Mark: I DON’T THINK THAT LAW EVER EXISTED. HONESTLY. DONALD, I DON’T THINK THAT EVER EXISTED. MY UNDERSTANDING IS AS LONG AS WE’VE HAD ELECTIONS IN CANADA, THERE ARE REALLY THREE OPTIONS FOR YOU: YOU CAN REFUSE YOUR BALLOT, YOU CAN VOTE FOR SOMEBODY, OR YOU CAN SPOIL YOUR BALLOT. AND IF PEOPLE REFUSE THEIR BALLOTS AND SPOIL THEIR BALLOTS, THOSE VOTES DON’T COUNT. EVEN IF ONLY ONE PERSON IN AN ENTIRE RIDING VOTES FOR ONE CANDIDATE, THAT PERSON WILL GET ELECTED. THEY WON’T CALL THE ELECTION OVER AGAIN WITH NEW CANDIDATES. I DON’T THINK THAT’S EVER BEEN THE LAW IN THIS COUNTRY.>>Caller: IT’S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE SHOULD CHECK OUT.>>Mark: I APPRECIATE THE SENTIMENT THAT YOU’RE RAISING, AND I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION THAT SO MANY VOTERS HAVE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CALL. MARLENE IS IN SHELLBROOK, SASKATCHEWAN. HELLO, MARLENE.>>Caller: YES, I HAVE ONE QUICK THING I’D LIKE THEM TO LOOK AT. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW AND HAVE ALL CANDIDATES ADDRESS WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF WE SENIOR CITIZENS ACROSS CANADA THAT CAN’T AFFORD TO RETIRE ON BASIC CPP AND OAS AND HOW MANY HAD TO GO BACK TO WORK TO MAKE END MEET.>>Mark: THAT’S A GREAT QUESTION.>>Caller: THAT’S EVERYTHING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.>>Mark: THANK YOU. I WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE AREA OUTSIDE THE MUSEUM OF HISTORY IN GATINEAU, QUÉBEC, JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE OTTAWA RIVER FROM WHERE WE ARE NOW IN DOWNTOWN OTTAWA. THERE IS A LOOK AT A GATHERING OF SUPPORTERS OF ALL OF THE MAJOR PARTIES IN ADVANCE OF THE DEBATE TONIGHT. THE MUSEUM OF HISTORY, A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING AT A VERY PICTURESQUE SETTING ALONG THE OTTAWA RIVER. YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE ALREADY MANY PEOPLE HOLDING SIGNS FOR SOME OF THE CANDIDATES AND HANDWRITTEN SIGNS AS WELL. SOME OF THEM OBVIOUSLY ARE SUPPORTERS OF THE PARTY WHO ARE THERE TO PERFORM THAT ROLE TO SHOW THEIR SUPPORT AND OTHERS ARE RAISING QUESTIONS ON SOME OF THOSE PLACARDS THEY’RE HOLDING UP. THE NEXT COUPLE OF HOURS WE’LL BE SEEING MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARRIVE. THERE IS AN AUDIENCE FOR THE DEBATE TONIGHT A STUDIO AUDIENCE OF SORTS IN THE THEATER AT THE MUSEUM OF HISTORY. WE EXPECT THE LEADERS TO ARRIVE ABOUT 4:00 EASTERN TIME. OUR COVERAGE ON CPAC WILL BEGIN AT 5:00 EASTERN THYME. THE DEBATE IS FROM 7 TO 9 p.m. EASTERN TIME, THEN WE WILL HAVE EXTENSIVE COVERAGE AND REACTION AFTER THE DEBATE BEGINNING AT 9 EASTERN HERE ON CPAC. INCLUDED IN THAT EXTENSIVE COVERAGE AFTER THE DEBATE WILL BE THE LEADERS THEMSELVES WHO WILL TAKE A TURN FOR 10 MINUTES AT THE MICROPHONE TO ANSWER REPORTERS’ QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THE DEBATE WENT. WE’LL HAVE ALL OF THAT LIFE FOR YOU ON CPAC AS WELL AS YOUR REACTION ON A SPECIAL EDITION OF HAVE YOUR SAY. THE DEBATE AT 7 EASTERN, THEN AFTERWARDS THE LEADERS THEMSELVES OFFERING THOUGHTS ON HOW THE DEBATE WENT, THEN YOU SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE DEBATE. ALL OF THAT COMING UP BETWEEN 7 AND 99 EASTERN TONIGHT ON CPAC. HOW IMPORTANT DO YOU THINK THIS DEBATE IS?>>BEING THE ONLY ENGLISH DEBATE, IT’S HUGELY IMPORTANT. A GAFFE ON THE MAIN STAGE TONIGHT CAN REALLY MAKE VOTERS RETHINK THEIR SUPPORT FOR ANY OF THE GIVEN LEADERS, AND I THINK 245 SOMEONE THAT COMES ACROSS AS VERY AUTHENTIC AND VOICES THEIR CONCERNS, THAT COULD WIN SUPPORT. NOBODY IS WILLING TO CALL THIS YET. I THINK IT’S VERY IMPORTANT. THERE HAVE BEEN AUDIENCES FOR DEBATES IN THE PAST BUT THEY’RE UNDER STRICT RULES, NO APPLAUSE.>>THE OTHER DAY IN BURNABY SOUTH, HEATHER LEUNG, EVEN THOUGH SHE HAD BEEN REMOVED, ASKED QUESTIONS ON STAGE. SHE’S STILL ON THE BALLOT FOR THE CONSERVATIVES. AN INTERESTING MESS.>>Mark: BECAUSE THE BALLOTS ARE DONE.>>SEPTEMBER 30th THEY WERE DONE.>>THAT IS JAGMEET SINGH’S RIDING. THERE’S LITTLE CHANCE OF HER WINNING.>>Mark: KATHERINE IS IN HALIFAX. HELLO, KATHERINE. GO AHEAD.>>Caller: I’M GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT THERE. WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO WITH THE FOLLOW-UP AFTER THE ELECTION? THEY SHOULD DO OTHER TOWN HALLS. OFTEN AFTER THE ELECTION YOU NEVER HEAR FROM A POLITICIAN UNTIL THE NEXT ELECTION. I’M WONDERING WHAT THEY’RE GOING TO DO IN THAT CASE.>>Mark: I THINK A LOT OF MPs GO DOOR-TO-DOOR IN THEIR RIDINGS WHEN IT’S NOT ELECTION TIME. JUSTIN TRUDEAU HAS DONE A NUMBER OF TOWN HALLS IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS SINCE HE BECAME PRIME MINISTER.>>Caller: I DON’T HAVE A POLITICIAN COME TO MY DOOR. I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I HAVE TO CALL TO FIND OUT INFORMATION. YOU WOULD THINK THEY WOULD FOLLOW UP WITH YOU WHEN YOU DO CALL AND SOMETIMES THEY DON’T.>>Mark: FAIR ENOUGH. THANK YOU. BRIAN? CHILLIWACK, BRITISH COLUMBIA.>>Caller: I’M THE BIG FAN HERE OF YOUR SHOW. I WATCH IT ALL DAY LONG. I WATCHED ON YOUR SHOW A SURREY TOWN HALL MEETING WITH MR. SINGH. I’D LIKE TO COMMENT ON THAT. I HAVE RESERVATIONS WITH MR. MR. I WAS APPALLED, SHOCKED, AND SO DISAPPOINTED IN HIS TOWN MEETING IN SURREY WHEN HE TOOK A QUESTION FROM AN EAST INDIAN AND LET HIM TALK FOR A LONG, LONG, LONG TIME IN HIS LANGUAGE, AND DID YOU NOT SHOW WHAT HE SAID AND IGNORED EVERYONE. TO MAKE THINGS EVEN WORSE YOU ANSWERED HIM IN EAST INDIAN FOR LIKE 5 MINUTES, AND AGAIN HOW IGNORANT BECAUSE DID YOU NOT SHARE YOUR ANSWER IN ENGLISH. SHAME ON YOU. BUT I FIGURED THIS IS, WHAT, YOUR GENDERVILLE. EVEN WHEN IN FRENCH WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT TRANSLATES TO ENGLISH. WHAT I’M AFRAID OF IS IF HE DID THIS IN A TOWN HALL MEETING, US IN THE WEST, WE HAVE TO LIVE WITH HAVING THE FRENCH LANGUAGE. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO LIVE WITH HAVING EAST INDIAN LANGUAGE ALSO?>>Mark: WHAT ABOUT THAT WOULD BE OF CONCERN NOW WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY HAVING TO LIVE WITH IT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? LET’S BE CLEAR, THERE ARE PEOPLE SPEAKING THOSE LANGUAGES TO EACH OTHER ALREADY. IN PUNJABI, ITALIAN, GERMAN, AND RUSSIAN ALL ACROSS THIS COUNTRY. WHAT IS IT THAT YOU’RE CONCERNED ABOUT RISK WITH?>>Caller: DO YOU UNDERSTAND EAST INDIAN, PUNJABI?>>Mark: NO, I DON’T.>>Caller: PROBABLY THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE AT THE SURREY TOWN HALL AND THE ONES THAT WERE LISTENING ON YOUR PROGRAM DON’T UNDERSTAND IT EITHER. SO WHY WOULD YOU HAVE A LEADER THAT WANTS TO REPRESENT CANADIANS AND WANTS TO BE THE PRIME MINISTER OF CANADA? WHY WOULD HE SPEAK THAT LANGUAGE FOR SO LONG AND NOT EVEN EXPLAIN TO THE PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE THIS DOES A QUESTION THAT THE PERSON ASKED AND THIS IS HOW ANSWERED. TO ME THAT’S NOT RIGHT.>>Mark: YOU MAY DISAGREE WITH THE TACTICS OF IT, AND YOU MAY THINK IT WAS EXCLUDING PEOPLE AT THE EVENT, BUT I’M NOT SURE WHY YOU SEE THAT AS SOME SORT OF THREAT TO CANADA.>>OKAY, HERE’S ANOTHER QUESTION I WOULD ASK MR. SINGH, DO YOU BELIEVE IN ONE LAW FOR ALL CANADA? HE WOULD PROBABLY SAY YES.>>Mark: I APPRECIATE YOUR CALL. I DON’T SEE WHAT THE THREAT IS. LET’S MOVE ON TO MICHAEL IN SARNIA, ONTARIO. HELLO, MICHAEL.>>Caller: HELLO. I REALLY ENJOY YOUR SHOW. IT’S REALLY UPDATING. BUT I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE VOTING. IS IT ALL PAPER BALLOTS? I UNDERSTAND THERE’S MACHINES ALSO INVOLVED. AM I RIGHT OR WRONG?>>MY UNDERSTANDING IS I HAVEN’T REALLY LOOKED INTO THIS VERY CLOSELY TO BE HONEST, BUT THE BALLOTS ARE ALL PAPER. SO THERE IS — THERE’S ELECTRONIC COUNTING OF THE VOTE BUT THE BALLOTS THEMSELVES ARE A PIECE OF PAPER –>>THEY AREN’T CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET. IT’S IMPORTANT TO NOTE. THEIR STOP GAPS OR AIR GAPS.>>Caller: I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW THAT WE’VE BEEN HEARING ALL KINDS OF STORIES ON THE INTERNET AND EVERYTHING ABOUT PEOPLE SAYING THEIR DEAD RELATIVES VOTED. IS THAT CHECKED INTO?>>Mark: THERE ARE ALWAYS ALLEGATIONS OF VOTING IRREGULARITIES. IF SOMEBODY RAISES AN ALLEGATION, IT’S LOOKED INTO. SO THERE’S A VOTER’S LIST, THERE’S A SYSTEM. THIS IS A PROCESS THAT’S BEEN HAMMERED OUT OVER AND OVER AGAIN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CALL. SHIRLEY IN MISSISSAUGA, ONTARIO.>>Caller: HI.>>I’M CALLING TO SAY THAT PRIME PRIMEMINISTER TRUDEAU IS WELL S. I LIKE HIM THE WAY HE TALKS. THE OTHER CANDIDATES I DON’T AGREE WITH. I’M ORIGINALLY A FRENCH CANADIAN, AND HE TALKS WELL IN ENGLISH AND FRENCH. SO THAT’S WHY I WOULD GO FOR HIM AS A LEADER, BUT I WOULD VOTE CONSERVATIVE BECAUSE I DON’T LIKE THE WAY THE LIBERALS SPEND MONEY LEFT AND RIGHT AND THE TAXES GO UP AND UP. AND I WORKED TILL I WAS 78 YEARS OLD, AND I PAID A LOT OF TAXES IN THIS COUNTRY.>>Mark: SHIRLEY, ARE YOU SAYING YOU PREFER JUSTIN TRUDEAU AS A LEADER BUT PREFER THE CONSERVATIVE PLATFORM?>>Caller: THAT’S RIGHT. THAT IS CORRECT.>>Mark: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CALL. SOME QUICK FINAL THOUGHTS, JUSTIN? WHAT ELSE WILL YOU — GO ON.>>I WANT TO JUMP IN. THE PERSON WHO RAISED THE CONCERNS AROUND THE INTEGRITY OF THE BALLOT, EVERY PARTY HAS SCRUTINEERS AT EVERY POLL CHECKING TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO TRANSDEPRESSIONS. TRANSGRESSIONS.>>Mark: OUR COVE CONTINUES ON CPAC WITH CONTINUED COVERAGE OF THE DEBATE. THANKS FOR WATCHING. [ ] Hello, I’m Peter Van Dusen. On October 7th, you’re invited
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  1. #boycottmsm #RebelMedia #TrueNorth #PPC CPAC should stand up for the rights of all reporters. NO REAL QUESTIONS ASKED/ANSWERED=FAKE NEWS

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