Octomom Off Welfare – Porn, Stripping FTW?

Octomom Off Welfare – Porn, Stripping FTW?


are not used to live by the defendant to
be proper optima antenna gone off welfare robin had a friendship that
message through porn and stroking jerry brown teasing out for your that is the american dream right there
so my main question to you guys is are we happy about so look its shell fourteen kids we don’t want
problem-free delivery on welfare not to the surprises but it’s a tough spot to
be in but she got off of welfare by doing when
i’d be called self love porn and i love that self-love uh… and and also stripping i don’t know are we happy about it and and i’m happy that she’s up welfare
however i don’t think this will ask forever there’s gonna be a day when no
one’s gonna wanna watcher dance or disdain for not getting you know what’s
interesting is a key it says that you know she went on welfare and marks and
then after her three-month cycle is that she was able to come off of it it issues r_d_ making six figures which
of course sounds insane but how far does six figures tell when you’re fourteen
states and who knows where expenses are in our last and now it’s like honestly
how much does it cost to race fourteen children and that’s what you
wanna come over and that’s what we talk about it in the first place as a larger
was that what you cargo other adult what i’m doing it all up panicked or offered center and that’s just for you is organising by
that it’s not like that’s it you know she’s a dentist issues in the two
hundred fifty thousand dollars a year for the rest of the black but no she got
paid once for the self while corn that burn six figures with that at some point
zero not what you want yeah and artistic one of the skills that she’s gonna be
able to capitalize on after that its heart of assault low-budget resonant
benefit media seriously but that was seconds
you’re correct answer your question is getting it she’s going to do another porn and this time self-loathing and a cut yeah okay and it’s going to get worse
and worse and worse italy’s fifty amin well then you go into milton deal for
them question that i think i’ll be more
lasting there i haven’t seen the spartan i’m not sure
but even in the near term renouncing the spartans one as someone who i think he’s it’s
just nice look like freshman one week in a store and i think that it’s a meter yet but we did a story on it but he
didn’t show the private parts are at issue in the same time attack for any others bank accounts i’m sure they did whatever
they needed to do and they put on a makeup on her an innate but like for
women they have early death but nothing like this was in a bad enough birthday this issue is that like this and that’s
enough to district and there was a photo of her ass tripping and that is somewhat
revealing and it should above interfaces with relatively normal mia what’s really interesting but you know
word this tragedy ends it ends in her doing

52 thoughts on “Octomom Off Welfare – Porn, Stripping FTW?

  1. I was pointing out how you just made a three word statement with no basis or logical merit. Mine was equally baseless and retarded, that was the point. Yea, I found interviews with her on Oprah. I just didn't find anything about what you said. That's why I said "Nothing about compulsive hoarding disorder or anything else you said for that matter". You clearly have no interest in backing up your claims or refuting mine, you're just sitting here talking trash. Yea, I'm the troll lol.

  2. Actually the only one talking trash has been you. You thought my statement was 'trash talk' on her mental health. No, I actually believe that. And no, the statements weren't 'equally baseless and retarded' nor was mine illogical. However, where we can agree is a reliable source for hoarding. This is source #52 on her wiki page. It's problematic and if you review the interview transcript, you can only infer OCD, not definitively conclude. So there it is, perhaps the page should be corrected.

  3. It's the first link mate, but I get it. You weren't actually looking for evidence because you're not actually willing to learn against your pre-conceived ideas. So let me explain the theory behind my conclusion. As human beings we are naturally sexual creatures. We are however psychologically ill equipped to deal with sexual abuse at a young age. As a result aspects of our mind manifest in different ways, this is very much dependent on individual differences including circumstances…

  4. … for some people the self attributes the difficult sexual experience not only to be a norm but to be good as this is easier for the mind to cope with, it avoids victimisation, shame, fear etc. Thus the individual becomes overtly sexualised to cope with the trauma. This can be seen in young children who end up sexually abusing other children and seemingly enjoy it. Now seeing as I've done all the leg work here, show me how I'm wrong.

  5. You just fell into the major thing here, as the great James Randi put it, i cant prove a negative, you put forward the asertion, its for you to back it up not for me to say it doesnt happen, BTW the first 1 i found was a document which is decades old using pretty bad data which i have been warned about having a fairly biased standing position before investigation. IE Early sexual experience and prostitution. from 1977 and was about prostitutes, not porn actors or fetish.

  6. Which is why i asked, as this discussion was about porn and within that some women actually enjoy being on camera just like some guys do, they get off on the idea of being watched, which is basically exhibitionism. Which has in no way shape or form got anything to do with the information i read about the article you were on about as i saw it.

  7. And btw, you are doing another fallacy argument, you are viewing it all as cause and effect of having only 1 cause and that must be "he/she is mentally ill and …… harms" which as a bisexual young male who plays alot of violent video games, i have heard time and time again as an argument which has no basis in this kind of subject and isnt proven at all and the best is "suspect" proof or circumstantial at best for the most part.

  8. And btw, you might want to look at the first line of your last batch of comments.

    "You weren't actually looking for evidence because you're not actually willing to learn against your pre-conceived ideas"

    Perhaps this could include yourself, but no, i bet you dont think that, i know i am willing to change my views based of scientific proof, i have done this multiple times in the last few months alone.

  9. Seriously, i have spent much of the last 5 years debating and discussing things on a scientific/historical and level where the other person was suprised i dont have masters in the subjects, i am more then happy to get to changing my mind, but when somebody says "google ……" and has something in it that has nothing to do with the convo, i get a little suspect.

  10. How is it nothing to do with the conversation? I gave you a reason why the sex industry is harmful, you said "prove it" I provided you with the best available evidence I can from my position… what exactly are you suspicious of? Why not address the point?

  11. Sorry didn't see your other posts. Ok 1977 was a while ago, but if you continue down the page there are more recent studies to back it up. Enjoying being watched is fine, but when profit-motive comes into it it's an entirely different situation and potentially disproportionately exploits emotionally damaged individuals. It's a form of self abuse for some. If it was arousing to watch people cutting themselves would you support it as a money-making industry?

  12. Considering the word you specifically said to look up was prostitution, which has nothing to do with porn at all, well, thats obviously suspect, its like if i was talking to somebody about the Marius reforms and said they should go look up Charles the Hammer.

  13. Cutting themsleves? Thats called smut porn which is illegal because it is physically dangerous and can end up with them killing themselves accidently, thats a far distance call from say, what octomom did and the vast majority of mainstream stuff and even the non mainstream such as gonzo(1 person has died in official industry porn iirc).
    Why is it bad if money is involved? Sure, i think money being involved in many things can make them bad, but thats why you have the industry regulated.

  14. And not all porn is self abuse, its like saying that being a construction worker is self abuse because money is involved, especially seeing as you have a massive chance of recieving a crippling long term condition such as back pains or white knuckle or deafness, unlike in properly regulated porn in which you dont really have these things (unless ofc, certain anti porn groups like iirc pink cross get rid of the aids and STD testing programs, which they are trying to do)

  15. Generally being a builder isn't psychologically harmful… but I do think more should be put in place for builders to improve their conditions. I'm not part of an anti-porn group, I'm just a Marxist feminist who recognises that under the current system that puts profits before people pornography is part of a damaging sex industry and AGAIN not just damaging to the individuals directly involved.

  16. Actually for the vast majority of it in porn, the people come first, which is why they dont have to pay for their own STI tests, have the ability to back out at any time they wish, have full insurance last i checked and given alot more care then say an office job. Infact its anti porn people who dont care about the actors, because they are trying to deregulate it in order to ban it, for example PCF closing down an STI testing centre used specifically by porn actors.

  17. And again you assert without proof, much like how Gail Dines does whom also calls herself a maxist feminist, are you sure you dont know who she is?

  18. Right, I looked her up, and I can definitely agree with what she said about how we live in a highly sexualised society. TYT just reported on a woman who's breast feeding video has been made into porn… does that not highlight the issues here? Do I have to find a ton of research to spell it out in black and white when the evidence is all around you. I saw a picture today making fun of a weightlifting Olympian for not shaving her underarms. Why do women have to shave their underarms?!

  19. "Considering the word you specifically said to look up was prostitution, which has nothing to do with porn at all."

    Prostitutes are paid to have sex by the person they are having sex with. Women in pornography are paid to have sex by the company filming it… is it really any different? Considering we were on the subject of the woman's psychology here. Apparently if they're not physically harmed it's not harmful. Sure, all the uninjured soldiers come back from war unharmed to huh?

  20. 1.Fetish is fetish, thats all that can be said really, i dont know the issues on it so cant say.
    2.The underarm thing, so what if theres a picture making fun, if you look you will find that humour is made about everything which it should be, all or nothing (i have had plenty of jokes made about me over things many consider "not acceptable" i dont care, its called humour, and its not just women who need to shave, for example i do lol, and preff any partner (guy or girl) does)

  21. Not all women in porn are paid to have sex, iirc the vast majority of porn now, over half, is considered to be amature porn, or porn where people are not paid, what about that lot?

    Sigh, the mental harm argument, i have yet to see a legitimate document stating that you can get PTSD from doing porn, sure some people regret doing it, but mainly because of idiots who basically outcast them for doing porn(for example, i wouldnt care if my partner guy or girl did porn, i wouldnt treat them different

  22. most the problems with porn is the unaccepting groups out there who treat people who do porn like 2nd class or like they are unclean you will find, sex in itself doesnt really cause any kind of mental or physical problem so long as it is concentual, however, being outcast causes major issues.

  23. And btw, comparing people having sex on video to people who get shot at and see their mates explode infront of them is a fucking low thing to do, a very fucking low thing to do.

  24. Just watched the video about the breast feeding video, that is fucked up, its unacceptable, she didnt sign up for it to be in porn, thus, she sues. Which btw is outside the context of the discussion, that isnt concentual porn acting, 2 very different things.

  25. Consensual porn acting is still harmful to society, that was the initial point. A highly sexualised society in which there is an industry dedicated to the objectification of sex and (in particular) the female body all in the same of money money money is undoubtedly harmful to society and the evidence of the harm it does is everywhere. Prostitution, child sex abuse, swimwear sections in beauty pageants, bullying in school, teen pregnancy, domestic violence, rape, plastic surgery, low self-esteem.

  26. Actually it's a great comparison. A lot of people work in the sex industry out of economic desperation, same goes for the army. Some people work in the sex industry because they want to, largely because of a diminished understanding of their own self-worth, just like soldiers who joined the army because they want to kill things. I think there are situations where the suffering of the two are similar, if you so strongly disagree you don't know shit about the harm of the sex industry.

  27. Prostitution, child sex abuse, are as old as time, the porn industry isnt, so i think you will find that a fairly bad argument.

    Actually, pretty much all those things you mentioned were around befre the porn industry, bar the beauty pageant thing and plastic surgery obv, the former of which i am against myself because i think beauty pageants are stupid, plastic surgery on the other hand can be benifitial.

  28. Actually, if you go into a recruiting office and say "i want to kill things" they will ask for your name etc, then put a "never fucking hire" mark to it because the armed forces dont want that, or at least most western armed forces dont, because those guys shoot friendlies and civvies. Again, where is your proof that its because they have dimminished self worth? As i have said before, i dont like the fact some go into it for economic reasons (its a reason i want trans rights to work in law)

  29. Actually, i think you dont know shit about the armed forces, these are guys who shoot people, get shot at, see their mates tred on mines and IEDs and get their legs blown off or worse, theres a reason "the horrors of war" are said to be the closest thing a man can get to hell.

    Seriously, have you talked to PTSD soldiers? I have, these guys on the 4th of july in the US put bodyarmor on and holf their rifle to help them feel safe ffs.

  30. The reason i am annoyed at this is because some of my best mates went through this, and before you think i am over exagerating, a good friend of mine who is a LT in the US army did that exact thing this year. I am looking to join the forces myself after going back to college, so i have researched it alot because i aint going in blind to get my brain destroyed for queen and country.

  31. Because you know how fucking dangerous it is for you in every possible way I imagine you wouldn't make such a decision. I have a friend who lost his legs in Afghanistan. It's not glory, it's not going to benefit you or your people. It's all for the benefit of big business.

  32. I never said the suffering was comparable, I just think it's a reasonable analogy to make you understand how a "job" can be harmful not just physically but psychologically. People assume all soldiers who aren't physically injured come back happy as Larry in the same way you assume women are unscathed by being fuck things.

  33. The thing is, you can be conscripted legally, you cant be forced to have sex.
    Theres also the thing of, you dont have to go through with it, if you feel that you are unhappy with doing the porno just say "no" and leave, soldiers dont get that option, soldiers if they say no get courtmarshalled and go to prison for years.
    Theres alot of differences in it, making it pretty bad really, like comparing charles the hammer to Marius, they both did the same kind of thing, but its not comparable

  34. And its not just women in porn, again, what about the guys, as you only seem to go on about women, and where is your proof that women get things like PTSD from doing the shoots, regret=/=mental damage. And what about women who enjoy the job and go on to do more?

    I mean cmon, you are painting with a brush and ignoring criticism en mass.

  35. Prostitution is part of the sex industry, it's how it began. And just because some of the things I mentioned existed before the sex industry does not mean the sex industry has no impact on them.

    There is a wealth of research and I'm reading through a lot of it now. I'm currently reading a study which links exposure to sexual content and teen pregnancy.

  36. So because I don't see a connection between a lip ring and what comes out of the mouth, that makes me a sheeple. There is no connection.

    Look in the mirror

  37. Good for her…she's a hot mess of a train wreck so porn/stripping is the only reasonable option for her to even have a remote chance of paying off her million dollars of debt.

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