The Catholic Church – Builder of Civilization, Episode 1: Introduction

The Catholic Church – Builder of Civilization, Episode 1: Introduction

Thomas: We’ve heard it all before, haven’t we… the Catholic Church is the enemy of science, progress and reason? Well, it’s all nonsense and we’re going to debunk it mercilessly. Join me right now for The Catholic Church: Builder of Civilization. (music) Thomas: Welcome to The Catholic Church: Builder of Civilization. I’m your host, Thomas Woods. I’d like to begin this 13-program series with a fact that’s fairly obvious to most of us. There’s a bit of a double standard in the world when it comes to the Catholic Church. You can say anything you like about the Catholic Church. Your career won’t be over, no one will care, ther e’ll be no candlelight vigils or hunger strikes. You say anything you like about it and that’s just fine. If anything, you’ll be even mor e welcome in fashionable cir cles than before. So what’s the result of that? The result is that you can get away with saying the most absurd, ludicrous things about the Catholic Church and people believe it. People are inclined to believe every ridiculous calumny against the Catholic Church. But worse, still, some Catholics themselves I think have begun to interiorize some of these criticisms and deep down I think they themselves wonder, “Has the Church r eally been a positive influence in history after all? “Hasn’t She been responsible only for repression and ignorance? “And hasn’t She been an opponent of the sciences?” We’ve all been taught to believe this. It would be a miracle if people didn’t believe it. But it’s not true. And in this series we’re going to show why it’s not true and we’re going to show the true glory of the Catholic Church. Now, the attacks on the Catholic Church and on religious belief in general have accelerated just over the past five years or so. We’ve already seen in recent years best-selling books by Richard Dawkins and Daniel Dennett, Sam Harris, condemning religious belief in general as irrational and foolish and in effect they’re saying to children in this country, “Your par ents are stupid for teaching you the faith.” Worse than that is that after the July 7, 2005 bombings in London, what we began to see is this tr end… that Islamic terrorism is now giving intellectuals an excuse to oppose all religion, the argument being that, “All religion is irrational, all r eligion can give rise to violence, so it should all be condemned.” So, for example, in Scotland’s Sunday Herald we r ead Muriel Gray saying, “The cause of all this misery, mayhem, violence, terror and ignorance is of course religion itself,” and she called religion, “Dark Ages nonsense.” “For the government of a secular country such as ours,”she said,”to tr eat religion as if it had real merit instead of regarding it as a ridiculous anachronism, which education, wisdom and experience can hopefully overcome in time, is one of the most depressing elements of the 21 st century.” Now, I’ll leave aside the fact that she doesn’t know how to use the word hopefully corr ectly. That’s another matter. The point is, this is our critic. Another critic, Polly Toynbee, in the London Guardian said, “It is now time to get serious about all religion and draw a firm line between the real world and the world of dreams.” In the London Spectator, Matthew Parris said, “What unites an ‘extremist’ mullah with a Catholic priest or evangelical Pr otestant minister is actually much mor e significant and inter esting than what divides him from them.” Well, these criticisms have become routine. Day in and day out we hear then, “All religion is the enemy of progress.” But the Catholic Church in particular is consistently viewed as the enemy of science and progress and knowledge, consistently. Now, why is that? How did that happen? In part, it began 200 years ago or more in the so-called Enlightenment, which was a period in 18th-century European history in which the intellectual classes became extraordinarily hostile to the Church. They disparaged the Midd le Ages consistently. In fact, that’s why they had the, the word “enlightenment”, because the idea was that before the enlightenment, before the wonderful 18th century, all we had was misery and backwardness and ignorance fostered by the Catholic Church, but now, thankfully, we have secular intellectuals to bring us enlightenment. I sometimes think that the most depressing job on earth must be to be a history pr ofessor who teaches about the Middle Ages. It must be the most depressing job on earth. All day long you lectur e about the Middle Age and you say, “The Middle Ages weren’t so bad. “In fact, a lot of great things happened in the Midd le Ages, the Catholic Church made a lot of great things possible.” You lecture on this all day long. You write books and articles on it. You even appear on television. You appear on radio and you talk about it… and what happens? You get home at night, you turn on the TV, nothing you’ve done has made any affect. Everybody still believes the Midd le Ages were the time of ignorance and repr ession and it was all the fault of the Catholic Church. All of that stuff in effect cannot be dislodged. It must be extremely depressing. Now, why, why is it so? Why are these falsehoods so resistant to the truth? Why is it so hard to get people to change their minds on this? Well, ever since the Enlightenment, what has taken root in our cultur e and in our way of thinking is that the Catholic Church is assumed to be wr ong and that secularism… that is the idea of organizing society and all of life without r efer ence to God… that is said to be the sour ce of pr ogress. So by definition, anything the Church is connected to involves r etr ogression, whereas anything that a secular intellectual brings us, well, that brings us pr ogress. And that has been the lens through which history has been viewed over the past 200 years. That’s why it’s only over the past, maybe 50 years that we’ve begun to see historians finally cracking through this nonsense and finally saying, “Wait a minute! “Not only did the Catholic Church not obstruct the sciences, She may have helped to foster them. “Not only did secularists not invent the science of economics, for example, but in fact, it turns out it was Catholic priests and pr ofessors who developed the ideas of economics centuries earlier,” and on and on and on. But it’s taken a long time to crack through this accepted idea that the Church is r esponsible for retrogr ession and ignorance. It’s taken for ever. Now, let’s think about some of these ar eas in which the Catholic Church has really built our civilization. I mean, I choose that word advisedly. Why is it that the Catholic Church can be said to be Her builder? Well, for example, consider how we think about charity, charitable work. We think that you’re engaged in charity when you help somebody without any expectation of a reward, when you do it because it’s good and it’s right to do it, you do it because you know that in the grand scheme of things that unfortunate person is in some sense your equal having been made in the image and likeness of God. So you help that person. You don’t help that person because you expect three years down the r oad to revisit him and say, “Remember that 15 bucks I gave you? Why don’t you cough it up?” Or to r evisit him and say, “I need votes. “I need some political support. Why don’t you come help me?” We don’t do it so we can tell the whole world, “Hey, look at what a great guy I am. “I just gave that guy 10 bucks.” We don’t do it for those reasons. We do it for the reasons that I gave… purely disinterested motives. Well, where do we get that idea? That idea comes from the Catholic Chur ch. Because in ancient Greece or Rome, if you had said, “Oh, I’m going to go help somebody, with no expectation of any reciprocity, I’m just going to go do it out of the goodness of my heart,” they would have thought you were crazy. “What are you talking about, man?” Much less the idea that I would pray for and even try to help my own enemies… “What are you, insane?” But yet today we take this for granted as the ideal, that the good man tries to observe these principles. But again, where do they come from? They come from the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church teaches this about charity… the ancient world didn’t. So her e’s an ar ea in which things that we take for granted, this is the way we think, we take it for granted. Where does that come from? It comes from the Catholic Church. We’ll have more to say about that in a futur e episode. How about the idea of rights… that I have a right to own pr operty or a right not to be killed, for example? Where does that idea of rights come from? Well, we’ve always been told that secularists in the Enlightenment or just before the Enlightenment came up with this idea in the 17 th century. All of a sudden, boom, rights just developed. Well, that’s not true either. And once again, modern research is coming to the rescue of Catholicism. I know that sounds odd. You think “modern researchers” and you want to run the other way. But in fact, honest pr ofessors, Catholic and non-Catholic alike, are now saying that the idea of rights goes all the way back to the 12th century and Catholic canon lawyers who gave the idea its birth. And the idea of a right simply means that I have a certain immunity to invasion by you. You can’t just arbitrarily kill me or deprive me of my property, things of this nature. That’s all a right is… that it would be wrong for you to interfere with me in these areas. And where does this, this liberating idea come from? Fr om the heart of the Church. Or again, economic science… did Adam Smith just think of economics in the 18th century, it all just came out of his head? He had this gigantic head and all of economics just pour ed out of it? No, in fact, for the past 50 years, what have historians been saying? They’ve been saying that it was the Catholic scholastics, professors who taught in, particularly Spanish universities and specifically the University of Salamanca, that gave birth to modern economics. They were the founders of economics, not secularists of the Enlightenment. This is now being discovered. On the wall of my office, I have a framed picture of the University of Salamanca. Now, most people would come in and say, “What’s the matter with you man? “Why would you, of all universities, pick this one?” It’s because I know that this is where economics was given birth and if you’re a geek like me, you’re very inter ested in and you love economics. But then finally for right now, befor e our br eak, what about our commitment to reason? Don’t we always pride ourselves in Western civilization on our commitment to the use of reason, that we use human reason to resolve disputes and to settle debates? Well, of course, but where does that come from? Where does that come from? That also comes from the Catholic Church. Why? Because the university system that the Catholic Church foster ed encouraged debate, rigor ous debate and human r eason was held up as the great arbiter to decide all these matters that ar e up for debate. Isn’t that the opposite of what you’r e told? What we’r e told is that the Catholic Church is an enemy of reason. To the contrary, ther e has been no greater champion of reason. But it’s not just reason, it’s more specific applications of reason, for example, the sciences in particular… the sciences, mor e than we realize… owe themselves to the Catholic Church. Now, why is that? It’s the opposite of what we’re told. But believe it or not, historians of the past 50 years have begun to say the Catholic Chur ch is more and more r esponsible for the sciences. Come on back and we’ll talk about this after the break. (music) (music) Welcome back to The Catholic Church: Builder of Civilization. I’m Thomas Woods. Before the br eak, we were talking about all these areas in which the Catholic contribution to our civilization has been indispensable but in which it’s largely neglected. How many of the facts that we’ve uncovered even up to now are covered in schools on a regular basis? Do I even have to ask that question? But I teased you a little bit with the idea of the Catholic Church as having helped to give birth to science in Western Civilization just befor e our break here. What did I mean by that? Well, I’m going to tease you a little bit again, because by next time we’re going to get into the sciences in real depth… in the next thr ee episodes, in fact… because here I think we have the aspect of Catholic history that is most often mangled and distorted and most often used, I think, as a bludgeon with which to beat the Church over the head… and I want to show that this is largely without merit. What I at least want to tell you for now is that it really is true, that over the past 50 years scientists who write the history of science have begun rethinking the old arguments against the Chur ch and said, “Do you know what? “On second thought the Chur ch actually did very important things.” There’s a reason that science took root and then was sustained for so long in Western civilization wher eas it wasn’t in others, and as it turns out, it is not in spite of the Catholic Church but in some ways because of it. Now, 100 years ago, it’s true, you would have read a book by Andr ew Dickson White that refers to the alleged warfar e between religion and science in Western Civilization. Today White’s book is consider ed almost laughable among professors, it’s so out of date and so ludicr ous. Today you have professors like Edward Grant writing, Cambridge University Press Books, you’ve got Thomas Goldstein, A.C. Cromby, David Lind bergh and many besides. And what they all agree on is that you can’t just say the Church was an opponent of the sciences. To the contrary, ther e were aspects of Catholic thinking ther e were indispensable for the development of science. And we’r e going to get into specifically what were those. But right now I want you to know that this old myth is being overturned by pr ofessors. Unfortunately, the findings of these pr ofessors have not managed to trickle down to the general public yet. This is what we’re going to try to do on our series. Let me give you, by the way, an example of a typical story that people have been taught to believe about the Catholic Church and then consider why it is they so readily believed it when ther e isn’t even a stitch of evidence for it. And here’s an example that I think even many people in the viewing audience might have believed and I myself believe. I had no other r eason, no reason to believe otherwise and that’s the idea that Christopher Columbus, when he engaged in his famous voyages was actually seeking in part to prove that the earth was not flat but rather spherical. Now, we’ve all heard the usual story that, Columbus was warned. “No, Columbus, no! “Don’t go sailing that far. “You’r e going to fall off the edge of the earth. “Don’t you know that? “They’re at this big flat disc and you’re going to fall off the edge and get eaten by dragons or giant radioactive spiders are going to eat you,” something like that, and he was warned about all this. “Don’t do it.” Well, he did it anyway, and this goes to show how brave and wonderful he was. Now, I don’t dispute that Columbus was indeed a brave and skilled navigator. But Columbus himself, were he here today, would tell you that he was not seeking to pr ove the earth was spherical. Why? Because everybody already knew it, everybody already knew the earth was a spher e. In effect, no educated person in Europe believed the earth was flat. That is a myth. That’s an almost absurd myth. In fact, just try to go back and find anybody in the history of Christendom who believed in a flat earth. Just look for them. If everybody believed it, that shouldn’t be hard. And yet, you can’t find any examples. Well, I correct myself. You can find two examples of people you’ve never heard of… Lactantius, for example, fr om the late 3rd and early 4th centuries. He had no influence on anybody and in any event he was speaking more allegorical than anything else. The other person who seems to have believed it was the 6th century figure named Cosmos Indicopleustes… did you ever heard of him? Neither have I, and neither had anybody in Western Europe. Cosmos wrote in Greek. By the time you get to that period of time, hardly anybody in the west speaks Greek. Pope St. Gr egory the Gr eat, for instance, who was Pope fr om 590-604, already he doesn’t even speak a word of Gr eek, so hardly anybody could have read C osmos. He wasn’t translated into Latin till 1706. So anybody who may have taught a flat earth had an audience of about one or two people, had no influence on anybody. The fact is, everybody understood the earth was a sphere. The reason people were reluctant to sponsor Columbus wasn’t that they were afraid he was going to fall off the edge. The reason they were afraid to do it was that they thought he had very much under estimated the size of that sphere. Columbus was saying, “Oh, don’t worry about it. “It’s not a very big earth. “I’ll just sail right around. “I’ll be right back. It’ll be fine.” But they wer e saying to him, “No, the earth is several times larger than you think it is and you’re just going to starve to death. “You’r e going to sail and you’r e going to sail and you’r e going to sail and you’r e not going to be on any land.” Well, luckily for Columbus, a couple of continents managed to spring up, quite contrary to his expectation and thankfully for him and for his cr ew. But that was why they didn’t want him to go… it wasn’t because they thought he was going to fall off the edge. Now, I r ealize that is so much the opposite of what you’ve been told, you almost think that I must be making this up, right. “Sure, people believed in a flat earth.” But I promise you, they didn’t. And ther e’s actually a whole book that was written to answer the obvious follow up question, if nobody believed in a flat earth, how did this myth ever get started? And the answer comes in a small book by a guy name Jeffrey Burton Russell. He wrote a book called, Inventing The Flat Earth. And what he found was that it was a very, very tiny group of intellectuals in the 19th century who gave birth to this myth and they did it because it made the Catholic Church look ridiculous. Because in the 19th century ther e was a lot of debate and dispute with the Church about Darwin and other matters and the idea was that if we can portray the Church as being so ridiculous that it used to actually teach the earth was flat, that we can show that She is an utterly contemptible opponent. So they invented this story to cast the Church in an absurd, ridiculous light. I am sure they had no idea the longevity of this myth… that in the 21 st century people would still be taught it. I’m sure somewhere in the world right now as I speak somebody’s being taught “The stupid Church taught the earth was flat and brave heroic Columbus pr oved them wrong.” It just won’t go away. But why won’t it go away? Why does it have such staying power? And the reason is that it feeds into this Enlightenment ster eotype, right? The Catholic Church is stupid, it inhibits pr ogress, it forces us to believe foolish things. Well, that’s exactly what we see in the flat earth myth, isn’t it? Who could possibly believe the earth was flat? The Ancient Greeks actually measur ed the circumfer ence of the earth. So obviously, they knew it was, it was r ound. How could the foolish Church think anything differ ent? So there’s a great example that can easily be overturned. But it hasn’t been overturned because it serves a purpose. If you tried to invent some myth today about any famous person you could think of and say that so and so believes such and such, it would last for about three seconds! But people believe what they are prepared to believe and people are prepared to believe the worst about the Catholic Chur ch. So the point of the series, the point of the next 12 weeks in which I’ll be joining you is to go after not simply these little myths, but to build up an edifice to show the glories of the Catholic Church. Not simply to say, “Well, the Church didn’t really do this or the Church wasn’t really so bad over here.” We’r e not going to make any progr ess if our message is, “The Catholic Church, not as bad as you thought.” We need something a little mor e vigorous, a little mor e vigor in our message. We need instead to say, it’s not simply, “The Catholic Church isn’t as bad as you thought”or”She didn’t really teach the earth was flat.” We can’t win by always running ar ound putting out fires. Nobody ever built a house by putting out fires. Fires have to be put out, it’s true. But we understand that we can’t build if that’s what we’r e always doing. If we’re always letting opponents of the Chur ch define the debate for us, then we’re always going to be on the defensive. And it seems to me, given the state of our civilization, that it’s about time that we went, shall we say, on the offensive and we showed people all the glories of the Church and we showed them all this hidden history. So we don’t have to say, “Oh, we’r e not really as bad as you think.” We’r e far more glorious that we ourselves even realize. And we ar e going to be up against, well frankly, very, very influential people in this world. I’m sure many of you remember that the European Union’s C onstitution excludes all mention of the Christian influence on Western civilization. How willfully blind will you have to be… surrounded by cathedrals and r eligious artwork and the fruits of what the Church has give us – how blind would you have to be not to mention that the Church had a little something to do with building this civilization? No, instead the European Union Constitution begins and ends with the idea that Western Civilization, that comes to us from Ancient Greece and Rome and then fr om the Renaissance and the Enlightenment. And that 1000 year period in between, well, I don’t know what was going on… apparently, nothing much. That’s the standard view and that was the standard view many people had up until, as I say, as recently as 50 or 100 years ago but today any medieval historian worth his salt knows this is a whole lot on nonsense and would reject it with a laugh. But yet, the architect of the European Union exclude mention of the Chur ch or of Christ fr om their founding document. It isn’t that they’re stupid. If it were just a matter of stupidity, that would be easily overcome. We just come back with the facts and that will be the end of it. It’s that they’re hostile to the Church. I mean, what could be more obvious than that? Look at what the European Union is up to half the time. Do they seem like pious Catholics, most of these people? They have no interest in spr eading the truth about the Church. And that’s why we as Catholics are under a particular obligation. We have to learn what we can about our faith and we have to go and spr ead it. And we have to go and tell people the r eal history of the Catholic Chur ch, because if we don’t defend ourselves, nobody’s going to do it for us. I actually wr ote a book called How The Catholic Church Built Western Civilization because I thought it was about time that we told our story and that’s what I’m going to spend the next 12 episodes doing is telling our story. But for next time we’re going to start three pr ograms on the subject of the Church and Science, and you’re going to have more ammunition than you’r e going to know what to do with by the time we’r e done with the next thr ee episodes. Because did you know, for instance, that the Jesuits, the Society of Jesus, did you know that they were so accomplished in the sciences that right now 35 craters on the moon are named after Jesuit scientists? Did you know that one out of 20 of the gr eatest mathematicians who ever lived belonged to the Society of Jesus? Or that the Jesuits helped to found and then became the greatest practitioners of the study of earthquakes, seismology? And we can go on and on and on… atomic theory, the study of ancient Egypt, the study of physics… and I can go on and on. There are so many ways in which the Catholic Church contributed to the sciences. So join me next time for The Catholic Church: Builder of Civilization. (music)

82 thoughts on “The Catholic Church – Builder of Civilization, Episode 1: Introduction

  1. the church and its gods is a ok thing. the churches and the gods are not responsible for bad or good, the whole human race is.

  2. Pretty sure they were working with Hitler to help build civilisation too 😛

    Morality only comes from the church? People only do good because god rewards you? Righto you go ahead and believe that.

  3. Catholic church is monotheistic?

    I thought they worshiped God, Mary, Jesus, Satan and prayed to an endless list of pagan "Saints". 🙂

  4. I have just watched the entire series. It is really good, and I am pleased you took the time to make it.

    May the Lord and the series help people to learn what the Catholic Church really is, and may it remove their misconceptions about the true church of Jesus Christ.

  5. If there were cameras during the the Inquisition and the Crusades this film would never have been made. Catholic atrocities are still going on, like priests molesting children and trying to cover it up and praying to saints or the virgin Mary. IF it was Jesus "true" religion I'd rather be a Buddhist monk!

  6. it would be foolish to say the church never did wrong …people did some very bad things in the her name. its very sad..but look, every institution, nation, or anything even half as old as the church has skeletons. go ahead, check. but that is not to say that the catholic church has not done a lot of good, and continues to now. it's open season on catholics today but it could be YOUR faith tomorrow. unless of course you believe in nothing…just your own awesomeness, in which case good for u

  7. The important is that you make a research of the truth sincerely, when you will encounter Christ personally, you will know you have found the truth. Thats what I can tell you from my personal experience. Jesus established the Catholic Church for our salvation. Nobody is perfect in the Church on earth, but there are many saints already in heaven and also living saints like Mother Theresa was and many others.

  8. Almost all of those secular 'intellectuals' were good brother masons, mostly of the Grand Orient, working with those who had embraced Illuminism, to overthrow Catholicism's monopoly over Europe and the New World so they could ultimately institute a secular, humanistic global government, which we see more or less already exists today in the U.N and E.U. Personally I think their zeal stems from injustices against the Knights Templar that they never forgot, and made worse over time.

  9. Haha, what an interesting perspective. Feel free to say that the Church 'built' society based on the fact that leading scientists were priests.. meanwhile, the rest of us will keep in mind that this is only because the Church made sure it had the monopoly on education, and remember it for the nest of corruption and depravity wich it has always remained to be.

  10. God is going to come back in time, regardless of if you believe it or not people. im sorry to hear so many negative comments against Jesus Christ. youll suffer for those, sorry to say =(

  11. I think the recent modern church has been perverted and probably with malice, from the outside. But this is marvellous to have a series of lectures talking about the better parts of its glorious history. What a treat to run across this series.

  12. It is good that Catholics have been put in their place and have to resort to pathetic apologetics now instead of brute force, but the immorality of their doctrines still need to be fought lest their cult fester and regain power.

  13. we have all heard the saying "all roads lead to Rome" well it is also just as true to say "all roads lead from Rome". The Church built Western civilisation and its high culture, even if the majority of people still refuse to recognise this (for a variety of worrying reasons). Well never mind lets remember the words of Jesus, " fear not, if the world hates you, remember it hated me first" John 15:18

  14. What an absurd statement. The Catholic Church is a destroyer of Civilizations and cultures. The Catholic church presided over the dark ages, persecutions and the inquisitions. The Roman Church destroyed Christianity at the council of Nicaea. . .

  15. I am consistently saddened by the level of inculcation of anti-religious feelings in the general populace, as promoted by antitheists in the years since Dawkins rose to prominence.

    So many commenters here display a flagrant disregard of centuries of charitable work, the founding of almost every major ancient university in the western world, hospitals and missions of education, never mind the simple message to live a good life and to promote the church by example.

  16. Okay been a week.

    I think I'll skip the intro But Lets just start with this.

    Charity: concerning what he said The church hierarchy in particular in the United States, Latin America, and elsewhere along with ecumenical movements has interpreted this verse literally 2 Thessolonians 3:10 Whosever does not work does not eat. They include the disabled, those who cannot find work in their community or those who were victims of crime Including crimes by government. Never mind jesus said Matthew 25

  17. 9:31 and the idea rights is actually Judeo Christian. It melted away in the face of feudalism. BTW. peasant rebellions were often victims of the inquisition.

    REASON?! Paging Voltaire! And its reasonable to coerce a confession or demand that the people remain uneducated and obey their king who God anointed even if he was an evil tyrant?

    Oh well. Anyways reason should be based on the word of God.

  18. Roger Bacon, Nicolaus Copernicus, Johannes Kepler, Galileo Galilei, Rene Descartes, Issac Newton, Gregor Mendel, Louis Pasteur, George Washington Carver and Georges Lemaitre (who came up with the Big Bang Theory) would most likely disagree.

  19. I doubt that. What had religion to do with anything these men accomplished. The succeeded in-spite of religion.

  20. Well, they were all devout members of the church. But that clearly has nothing to do with it, right? A good deal of the them were church officials. So please tell me how an institution that is supposed so anti-science can have so many of it's own members be so heavily invested in the sciences.

  21. The problem that I find with the Catholic Church is that they worship and bow down to a statue of Mary. God's second commandment was 'Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image.' So we shouldn't bow down to statues of silver or gold or wood. So I would consider Catholics as Idol Worshippers.

  22. It has nothing to do with idol worship. Idols are only such when the image is based on a deity or an entity that is antichrist, has never been or ever will be. Images of the Catholic Church are in place to make both the Gospel and the saints more accessible to empathize with, draw inspiration from and relay to others about. Nothing less, nothing more.

  23. I agree with you on a number of issues you mentioned, I would say today the church has been infiltraited by those who seek to destroy it. The church seems to go against the original teachings that were mentioned in the bible, what happened, did God change his mind?

  24. Yes, the church seemed to hate anything that proved science was correct. The church was frightened that such phliosophy was undermining their standing in society.

  25. I do, I have read about dark ages in history. But to destroy Christianity only leaves Judasim and Islam to take over, what a world that would be. Have you read the Talmud and Koran? There is plenty of sick pedophile behaviour in their teachings as well, go and have a read.

  26. Yes as well as the incited violence with the 2 african tribes in Rawanda yes there is certainly no question the church has a lot of criminals running the show. I can never understand why they don't let them marry. They also murdered Pope Paul the 1st in 79, if you see the movie the "Godfather part 2" they actually show this in the movie. I think Francis Ford Copola knew a lot more about the church than most people. You can't judge the innocent people Christians, compared to a few bad apples.

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  28. Okay, there might had been intransigence with those Priests with the way they handled the Rwandan debacle. As regard to JP1 there wasn't no autopsy or death certcificate it was rather done suspiciously wouldn't you say, conspiracy theories aside. The funny thing is that he only served 33 days of the Pontificate. There seems to be an unprecedented attack on the Church given we all make mistakes, but the amount of scrutiny the Church gets compared to the other religions Islam and Judasim is biased

  29. I have brought the book by the way, I like to hear from many points of view. I guess the Catholic Church has been getting a lot of flak from those in the meida who would like to destroy the institution.

  30. That's why this is titled "builder of Civilization" not "founder of Civilization." You can build something up after it already exists, of course.

  31. Tell it to Galileo Galilei.
    Tell it to Jacques de Molay.
    Tell it to Giordano Bruno.
    Tell it to Geoffroi de Charney, John Badby, Jan de Bakker, Jerome of Prague, Jan van Essen, Gerard Segarelli, and a whole,long list of others who were burned alive by the Catholic church.
    Tell it to the natives of South America who's forefathers were slaughtered by the tens of thousands in the name of the mother church and who's cultures were destroyed
    Tell it to the native Mexicans, who were forced, by R.C. priests, to work as slaves in the silver mines.
    Tell it to…….Oh Hell, tell it to someone that believes your silly, lying shit, it won't fly here..

  32. At 9:36 he says "I nave a right not to be killed", the catholic church has happily and joyessly torture and killed thousands and thousands!
    Does this guy think we are all totally ignorant of history?

  33. Not to detract from the subject of the video, but I've had it paused at 4:13 for a few min and I looked up and swore it was George Costanza from Seinfeld.  lol

  34. That is true, without Morality Science turns it's eye to Murder, Torture, Captivity and all manner of Cruelties under the guise and remand of Experimentation and Proof…Science has caused disdivinity of Humanity and Mankind by removing him from the Hands of His Creator and placing him in the Primitive Places of Evolution and Slowed Development, where Progress is defined by an Animal Law, where Progress is Defeated by the Shedding of Blood in it's lust for Inclusion, where Progress is torn of Her Ancient Robes and exposed in Her nakedness by those whom would alter the perception True Development, the Understanding of Man, Good and Wicked, where Truth is Defined by Higher Laws than those of the Physical World, where we are Accountable Visibly and Invisibly to the Justice of the Power which Moves Us All, Creation and God.  It is not Religion whom these despise, it is Responsibility for the short-lived Freedoms of Disbelief, which are Captivity and Breaking of the Spirit, but Discluding what is Righteous, and Forgetting what happens, in the Twentieth Century, when Atheism and Science are the gods of Men, destruction and Murder on a Scale comparable only to the entire history of Mankind, found pouring from the wound of the last Hundred years.  Without Belief, without a System of Higher Growth, Without Knowing What is Spirit, Without a Freedom from Criticism and Gradual Development by Men of Higher Stature wrought through the Hallows of what is Holy and Pure, we are led by the Sterility of Science alone, a Sword with no Decorative Engaging, a Truth meant only to Kill.  I Praise the Development of them whom oppose the Restrictions of Sin by the Freedom of what is Beautiful and Perfectly Unchanging over the Thousands of Years, we Love you, for we know Love, come with us, come to Heaven's way and Know there is a Knowing Higher than Physical Laws and Experimentation, know there is Peace and Perfection of the Highness within thee that Circles the Hold of History, your Spiritual Inheritance, which is Remarkable and Grand. Do not leave it for a Poor Man's Breakfast of Explanations which will require Generations and Compromise to Illicit.  The Church does not Oppose Science, it Opposes what Men become when Spirit is Subdued by it.  Amen. 

  35. The one point missing in this series (I've watched most of it previously) is the fact that the Catholic Church also had a monopolistic-stranglehold on ethics, thought and philosophy for quite a period of time . . . they actively dissuaded or destroyed any voices that might've have caused questioning or disobedience to their will . . . that is until the Enlightenment . . .

    The only reason the Catholic Church had any influence on Western society is because it was the biggest bully on the block – not because what they teach is actually true or makes any sense . . . FFS!

  36. History can't be denied.  Have a read on what the Catholics did to the French Huguenots.

    Actually, Economics is not considered by everyone to be a "science".  I look forward in the next three episodes to heard about the contribution of Catholicism to evolutionary science.

  37. His opening statement says it all: The Catholic Church is the enemy of science, progress and reason. All I need to hear…….

  38. i'm deeply appreciative of the opportunity to watch this lecture series for free and to Thomas Woods for making it.

    but, i watched all thirteen episodes and must say that it's been one of the MOST GRUELING, UNINSPIRED acts of apologetics that i have ever seen.

    someone's noted in the comments, "an infomercial for Catholics." that sounds about right. very informative and very, VERY boring.

  39. Your presentation on "The Catholic Church – Builder of Civilization" is excellent. Please let me have a transcript of it if you have?

  40. The Church never oppose science, Law or economy. Modern historians are coming to rescue our misunderstood Catholic Church – the Church in fact is the builder of civilization…

  41. There is an axiom: evil never speaks truth; thus, the European Union denies its Christian background, do we see a lie from the devil of the evil EU?

  42. Anti-Catholicism is the only acceptable bigotry. People make themselves feel better by calling Catholics the scum of the earth and by projecting their own intolerance on them. I don't think this will ever go away, unless we can start showing fairness and intellectual honesty which really aren't in fashion now-especially towards religion. We are a society that tolerates everything, in fact, besides religion.
    Mankind can also get back to a sense of the supernatural, which really isn't in fashion now. Morally, these ages are quite backwards and the world is loathe to get its moral progress to match its technological progress. And with that situation, we will continue to see inhumanity and degradation on a world-wide scale. It is often forgotten that it was the atheistic regimes which shed far more blood than the religious ones. Conveniently forgotten…

  43. I agree with Tom and recognize the contributions of Catholicism however there is one thing you will not find in the Catholic church and that is salvation.

  44. Chip lies and propaganda: Nice story about Columbus, but totally irrelevant. The relevant story is about Copernicus and Griodano Bruno.

  45. Will this guy ever talk about the eastern Roman empire that kept civilization going for 1000 years longer? Typical ignorance of the West!

  46. I had no idea that this was Tom Woods! I've been listening to this guy's political and economic works for years and didn't know about this documentary.

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