URGENCY ! Trump TRYING to FIND OUT Whistleblower’s Identity to ‘INTIMIDATING’

URGENCY ! Trump TRYING to FIND OUT Whistleblower’s Identity to ‘INTIMIDATING’


. >>>HAPPENING NOW, BREAKING NEWS. GIULIANI GETS SUBPOENAED. THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY PICKS UP MORE STEAM AS HOUSE DEMOCRATS SUBPOENA RUDY GIULIANI FOR DOCUMENTS PERTAINING TO UKRAINE FOLLOWING A SIMILAR SUBPOENA TO MIKE POMPEO. NO GOOD REASON. PRESIDENT TRUMP RATCHETS UP HIS RHETORIC ON THE IMPEACHMENT ACCUSING HIS CHIEF INVESTIGATOR OF TREASON. TONIGHT THE POLL SHOWS A GROWING NUMBER OF AMERICANS FAVOR IMPEACHING THE PRESIDENT. >>>PRESIDENT TRUMP’S FIRST SUPPORTER IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES CHRIS COLLINS AGREES TO RESIGN FROM CONGRESS AND PLEAD GUILTY TO INSIDER TRADING.>>>AND GRAVE AND GROWING. FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER JOHN BOLTON WARNS OF NORTH KOREA’S THREAT JUST WEEKS AFTER LEAVING THE WHITE HOUSE, HE SLAMS PRESIDENT TRUMP’S NORTH KOREA POLICY SAYING KIM JONG-UN WILL NEVER GIVE UP HIS NUCLEAR WEAPONS. WOLF BLITZER IS OFF TODAY, I’M BRIANNA KEILER, YOU’RE IN “THE SITUATION ROOM.”>>Announcer: THIS IS CNN BREAKING NEWS.>>>WE’RE FOLLOWING BREAKING NEWS. THREE HOUSE COMMITTEES INVESTIGATING PRESIDENT TRUMP JUST ISSUED A SUBPOENA TO HIS PERSONAL LAWYER RUDY GIULIANI FOR DOCUMENTS THAT ARE RELATED TO UKRAINE WHICH IS AT THE CENTER OF THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY. PRESIDENT TRUMP NOW SAYS HIS TEAM IS TRYING TO IDENTIFY THE WHISTLE-BLOWER WHOSE COMPLAINT ABOUT HIS UKRAINE CALL HELPED LAUNCH THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY IN OUR POLL JUST RELEASED SHOWS SUPPORT FOR IMPEACHING PRESIDENT TRUMP GROWING AMONG INDEPENDENTS AND REPUBLICANS. WE’RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE BREAKING NEWS AND MORE WITH CONGRESSMAN RAJA KRISHNONOORTHI OF THE INTELLIGENCE AND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE AND OUR CORRESPONDENTS AND ANALYSTS ARE ALSO STANDING BY. FIRST GO TO CNN CORRESPONDENT MANU RAJU ON CAPITOL HILL. AND MANU, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE INTEL AND OVERSIGHT AND FOREIGN AFFAIRS COMMITTEES ARE JOINTLY DEMANDING DOCUMENTS FROM THE PRESIDENT’S PERSONAL LAWYER. TELL US ABOUT THIS. >>Reporter: THE LATEST DEVELOPMENT IN A RAPIDLY-ESCALATING IMPEACHMENT INVESTIGATION. A SUBPOENA SENT TO RUDY GIULIANI, THE PRESIDENT’S ATTORNEY, DEMANDING DOCUMENTS HE TURN OVER BY OCTOBER 15th. THIS IS AFTER COMMENTS THAT RUDY GIULIANI MADE ON CNN SAYING THAT HE DID, IN FACT, URGE THE UKRAINIANS TO INVESTIGATE JOE BIDEN AND HIS SON. WHAT THE DEMOCRATS ARE ASKING FOR ARE DOCUMENTS STEMMING FROM THE TIME THE PRESIDENT CAME INTO OFFICE UP UNTIL NOW AND THEY WANT THOSE IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. NOW AT THE SAME TIME THE DEMOCRATS ARE DEMANDING THREE GIULIANI BUSINESS ASSOCIATES COME FORWARD FOR DEPOSITIONS AND THIS IS AFTER THE SAME COMMITTEES HAVE ASKED FOR INFORMATION FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT, SUBPOENAING THE STATE DEPARTMENT FOR DOCUMENTS AS PART OF THE UKRAINE INVESTIGATION SAYING THAT ANY EFFORTS TO OBSTRUCT THAT WILL BE VIEWED AS OBSTRUCTION OF CONGRESS. NOW AT THE SAME TIME DEMOCRATS ARE PUSHING BACK AGAINST THE PRESIDENT’S ATTACKS AGAINST THE WHISTLE-BLOWER WHO BOTH THE HOUSE AND SENATE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE WANT TO INTERVIEW IN THE COMING DAYS. I SPOKE TO SENATOR MARK WARNER, THE VICE CHAIRMAN OF SENATE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE WHO RAISED ALARMS THAT THE PRESIDENT’S THREATS AGAINST THE WHISTLE-BLOWER. >>ANY RATIONAL PERSON WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE WHISTLE-BLOWER’S SAFETY AFTER THE PRESIDENT’S COMMENTS. THIS IS AN EFFORT TO UNDERMINE THE PROTECTIONS OF THE WHISTLE-BLOWER PROGRAM. I BELIEVE IT FALLS INTO THE CATEGORY OF REPRISAL. THESE KIND OF THREATS. AND I THINK HE NEEDS TO STOP AND I WOULD HOPE THAT MY COLLEAGUES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE WILL SPEAK OUT IN A UNIFIED VOICE BECAUSE WHAT THIS — WHAT THE CHILLING EFFECT IT WILL HAVE NOT ONLY ON THIS INDIVIDUAL WHOEVER HE OR SHE TALKED TO, BUT WHAT IT WILL HAVE IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL EFFECT ON PEOPLE IN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY BEING ABLE TO SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER.>>Reporter: NOW THE WHISTLE-BLOWER HAS NOT BEEN SCHEDULED TO TESTIFY EITHER BEFORE THE HOUSE OR SENATE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE YET. BUT ADAM SCHIFF STILL IS OPTIMISTIC THAT WILL HAPPEN. NOW AT THE SAME TIME DEMOCRATS ON THE SENATE SIDE AND THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE HAVE DEMANDED THAT BILL BARR THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND OTHERS COME BEFORE THEIR PANEL TO TESTIFY ABOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF THE WHISTLE-BLOWER COMPLAINT. THE WHISTLE-BLOWER HIM OR HERSELF ALLEGED THAT BILL BARR FOR ONE PLAYED A ROLE IN THIS, SOMETHING THAT BILL BARR AND THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HAVE DENIED BUT LINDSEY GRAHAM AS CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE SAID THERE IS NOTHING WRONG THAT HE SEES IN THE WHISTLE-BLOWER COMPLAINT CONTENDING IT IS A SMEAR JOB SO EXPECT THE SENATE REPUBLICANS NOT TO MOVE MUCH BUT DEMOCRATS BELIEVE THIS IS THE LATEST EVIDENCE OF WRONGDOING AND SAY THIS IS ALL PART OF AN IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY THEY HOPE TO WRAP UP IN A MATTER OF MONTHS, BRIANNA. >>THANK YOU, MANU. >>>AND ALSO BREAKING NEWS AT THE WHITE HOUSE. CNN CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT JIM ACOSTA HAS THE LAF — THE LATEST FOR US. AND THE PRESIDENT TALKED ABOUT THE WHISTLE-BLOWER A SHORT TIME AGO. >>Reporter: THAT IS RIGHT. PRESIDENT TRUMP SUGGESTED TO REPORTERS THE WHITE HOUSE IS TRYING TO DISCOVER THE IDENTITY OF THE WHISTLE-BLOWER WHOSE COMPLAINT LAUNCHED THE UKRAINE INVESTIGATION AND THE PRESIDENT IS ON THE ATTACK WARNING THE CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE COULD BE ARRESTED FOR TREASON AND THAT THE COUNTRY COULD BE DRAWN INTO A CIVIL WAR IF HE’S IMPEACHED. I’M TOLD AIDES TO THE PRESIDENT HAVE CAUTIONED HIM IN THE LAST FEW DAYS THAT HE FACES THE REAL LIKELIHOOD OF IMPEACHMENT. IN A SIGN OF GROWING FRUSTRATION THAT HE FACES THE REAL PROSPECT OF IMPEACHMENT, PRESIDENT TRUMP IS DEMANDING TO FIND OUT THE IDENTITY OF THE ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL WHO BLEW THE WHISTLE ON HIS PHONE CALL WITH THE LEADER OF UKRAINE ABOUT JOE BIDEN.>>WE’RE TRYING TO FIND OUT ABOUT A WHISTLE-BLOWER. WHEN YOU HAVE A WHISTLE-BLOWER THAT REPORTS THINGS THAT WERE INCORRECT. AS YOU KNOW, AND YOU PROBABLY NOW HAVE FIGURED IT OUT, THE ENTERTAINMENT I MADE TO THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE, A GOOD MAN, A NICE MAN, WAS PERFECT. >>Reporter: BACK TO A QUICK RESPONSE FROM THE WHISTLE-BLOWER’S ATTORNEY WHO TWEETED THE INTEL COMMUNITY WHISTLE-BLOWER IS ENTITLED TO ANONYMITY AND LAW SUPPORT THIS AND THE INDIVIDUAL IS NOT TO BE RETALIATED AGAINST. DOING SO IS A VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW. LOBBYING GRENADES FROM HIS SOCIAL MEDIA BUNKER, THE PRESIDENT TORE INTO CHAIRMAN ADAM SCHIFF FOR MOCKING MR. TRUMP’S CALL AT A HEARING LAST WEEK. TWEETING ADAM SCHIFF MADE UP A FAKE AND TERRIBLE STATEMENT. ARREST FOR TREASON — >>IT IS A DISGRACE. THIS WHOLE THING IS A DISGRACE. THERE HAS BEEN TREMENDOUS CORRUPTION AND WE’RE SEEKING IT. IT IS CALLED DRAIN THE SWAMP. THERE HAS BEEN CORRUPTION ON THE OTHER SIDE. IT HAS BEEN CORRUPTION LIKE YOU’VE NEVER SOON. >>Reporter: WHITE HOUSE AIDES HAVE GROWN FRUSTRATED WITH HIM CLINGING TO A BOGUS CONSPIRACY THEORY THAT IT WAS UKRAINE AND NOT RUSSIA THAT MEDDLED IN THE 2016 ELECTION AND A CLAIM TOM BOSSERT SAID HE TRIED TO ASK THE PRESIDENT TO ABANDON. >>AT THIS POINT I’M DEEPLY FRUSTRATED WITH WHAT HE AND THE LEGAL TEAM IS DOING AND IN REPEATING THAT DEBUNKED THEORY TO THE PRESIDENT. IT STICKS IN HIS MIND WHEN HE HEARS IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND FOR CLARITY HERE, GEORGE, LET ME JUST AGAIN REPEAT THAT IT HAS NO VALIDITY. >>Reporter: OVER THE WEEKEND THE PRESIDENT WARNED HIS REMOVAL FROM OFFICE WOULD CAUSE A CIVIL WAR-LIKE FRACTURE AND THAT PROMPTED ONE HOUSE REPUBLICAN TO TWEET I HAVE VISITED NATIONS RAVAGED BY CIVIL WAR. I’VE NEVER IMAGINED SUCH A QUOTE TO BE REPEATED BY A PRESIDENT. THIS IS BEYOND REPUGNANT. MR. TRUMP’S 2016 FOE SUMMED UP IT BY CALLING THE PRESIDENT A DESTRUCTIVE FORCE OF NATURE. >>A CORRUPT HUMAN TORNADO. >>Reporter: MITCH McCONNELL SAID HIS CHAMBER WOULD HAVE TO CONSIDER REMOVING THE PRESIDENT IF THE HOUSE VOTES TO IMPEACH. >>UNDER THE SENATE RULES WE’RE REQUIRED TO TAKE IT UP IF THE HOUSE DOES GO DOWN THAT PATH. AND WE’LL FOLLOW THE SENATE RULES. IF THE SENATE RULE RELATED TO IMPEACHMENT THAT WOULD TAKE 67 VOTES TO CHANGE. SO I WOULD HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO TAKE IT UP.>>Reporter: EVEN THE PRESIDENT’S TOP SURROGATES ARE STRUGGLING TO SPIN THE UKRAINE INVESTIGATION.>>PRESIDENT TRUMP REPLIES, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO DO US A FAVOR, THOUGH.>>YOU JUST ADDED ANOTHER WORD. >>NO. IT IS — >>YOU SAID I WOULD LIKE YOU TO DO A FAVOR THOUGH. >>YES. IT IS IN THE WHITE HOUSE TRANSCRIPT. >>Reporter: ONE TOP WHITE HOUSE OFFICIAL STRANGELY INSISTED IT IS THE PRESIDENT WHO IS BLOWING THE WHISTLE.>>THE PRESIDENT IS THE WHISTLE-BLOWER HERE. THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS THE WHISTLE-BLOWER. AND THIS INDIVIDUAL IS A SABOTEUR TRYING TO UNDERMINE A DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED GOVERNMENT. >>Reporter: SOURCES FAMILIAR WITH DELIBERATIONS INVOLVING MR. TRUMP AND TOP ADVISERS ABOUT HIS CALL WITH UKRAINE LEADERS SAY AIDES TO THE PRESIDENT HAVE WARNED HIM HE FACES THE LIKELIHOOD OF BEING IMPEACHED BUT A SOURCE SAID AIDES ARE DIVIDED OVER THE SUBJECT AS SOME ARE REASSURING THE PRESIDENT THAT NANCY PELOSI IS PLACATING DEMOCRATS AND WON’T DRIVE THE PROCESS TOWARD AN IMPEACHMENT VOTE. NOW AS FOR THE SUBJECT OF IMPEACHMENT, WE SHOULD PUT THIS UP ON SCREEN, A NEW CNN POLL SHOWS THE PUBLIC IS BECOMING MORE OPEN TO THE IDEA WITH 47% SAYING THEY SUPPORT IMPEACHING AND REMOVING THE PRESIDENT FROM OFFICE. CONTRAST THAT WITH 41% BACK IN MAY AND SOME LATE-BREAKING NEW INFORMATION, BRIANNA, THE “WALL STREET JOURNAL” REPORTED THIS AFTERNOON AND OUR COLLEAGUE JAMIE GANGEL IS CONFIRMING THAT MIKE POMPEO WAS ON THAT PHONE CALL THAT THE PRESIDENT HAD WITH THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE BACK IN JULY. BRIANNA. >>JIM ACOSTA, THANK YOU. >>>AND THERE IS MORE BREAKING NEWS JUST COMING INTO THE SITUATION ROOM. A SOURCE IS TELLING CNN THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP PRESSED AUSTRALIA PRIME MINISTER TO HELP BILL BARR INVESTIGATE THE ORIGINS OF THE MUELLER PROBE. MARK MISETTY BROKE THE STORY AND A CNN NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST. MARK, THIS STORY IS PRETTY STUNNING. TELL US WHAT YOU’RE LEARNING.>>Reporter: WELL, PRESIDENT TRUMP CALLED THE AUSTRALIAN PRIME MINISTER IN RECENT WEEKS AND HE INITIATED THE CALL FOR ONE PURPOSE AND THAT WAS TO GET THE AUSTRALIAN GOVERNMENT’S HELP IN THIS ONGOING JUSTICE DEPARTMENT INVESTIGATION WHICH IS EXAMINING ALL OF THE INTELLIGENCE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY THAT WAS LEADING UP TO THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION. NOW WHY WOULD HE ASK AUSTRALIA? BECAUSE AUSTRALIA WAS EFFECTIVELY THE REASON WHY THE WHOLE THING BEGAN. AUSTRALIA GOVERNMENT GAVE THE FBI IN 2016 INFORMATION ABOUT POSSIBLE RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE AND ABOUT CONTACTS WITH THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN. SO MR. TRUMP HAS BEEN FIXATED ON THE AUSTRALIA GOVERNMENT AND THE UKRAINE GOVERNMENT’S ROLE AS WE NO FROM THE OTHER CALL AND THIS IS ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT CALL THE PRESIDENT MADE AT A HIGH LEVEL USING THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT INVESTIGATION AS LEVERAGE OVER AMERICAN CLOSE ALLIES. >>EXPLAIN THIS BECAUSE WASN’T IT ACTUALLY — IT WAS AN AUSTRALIAN OFFICIAL WHO WAS CONCERNED, RIGHT, BY WHAT THEY WERE HEARING FROM AN AMERICAN ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON. JUST EXPLAIN THE CONTEXT OF THIS BECAUSE THE WAY WE’VE PREVIOUSLY UNDERSTOOD THIS IS THAT THIS AUSTRALIAN OFFICIAL WAS RAISING A RED FLAG FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT RIGHT AND REPORTING THIS. >>Reporter: YOU’RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. SO THIS WAS IN 2016. HE HAS CONTACTS WITH A TRUMP FOREIGN POLICY ADVISER AND HE SENDS IT THROUGH OFFICIAL CHANNELS TO THE AUSTRALIAN GOVERNMENT WHICH BRINGS IT UP TO THE FBI AND AGAIN THIS IS DURING THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. SO FLASH FORWARD THREE YEARS LATER AND PRESIDENT TRUMP IS FURIOUS ABOUT THIS AND HE BLAMES THE AUSTRALIAN GOVERNMENT FOR SETTING THIS WHOLE THING IN MOTION. SO IN MAKING THIS REQUEST TO THE AUSTRALIAN PRIME MINISTER, IN EFFECT HE’S HAVING THE AUSTRALIAN GOVERNMENT INVESTIGATE ITSELF. BECAUSE THEY WERE THE ONES WHO BROUGHT THIS FORWARD. AND SO ONE WOULD HAVE TO WONDER JUST HOW THIS IS RECEIVED IN AUSTRALIA AND HOW IT IS GOING TO ACTUALLY PROCEED, WHETHER THEY ARE GOING TO CARRY OUT THE PRESIDENT’S REQUEST.>>VERY, VERY MUCH — MARK, MANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. LET’S GET MORE ON THIS NOW WITH DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN RAJA KRISHNONOORTHI FROM THE OVERSIGHT AND INTEL COMMITTEE. FIRST, COULD YOU REACT TO THIS STORY ABOUT AUSTRALIA THAT THE PRESIDENT ASKED AUSTRALIA TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS INVESTIGATION INTO THE ORIGINS OF THE RUSSIA PROBE. WHAT IS YOUR EXPECTATION FOR WHAT HE WAS SOLICITING.>>WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THIS INVESTIGATION SEEMS MISPLACED AT THE START. BUT THE FACT THAT BASICALLY BILL BARR WOULD SOMEHOW HAVE THE PRESIDENT BE SUCH A IMPORTANT PART OF THIS INVESTIGATION WHICH APPEARS TO BE A SELF SERVING ONE AND THEN CALLING A FOREIGN LEADER TO ASSIST IS VERY CONCERNING. I THINK THAT BILL BARR INITIALLY ASKED MR. DURHAM, A U.S. ATTORNEY, TO LEAD THIS INVESTIGATION AND NOW IT APPEARS THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS COMMANDEERED IT AND CALLING ON FOREIGN LEADER TO HELP AND WHO KNOWS WHAT HE’S USING AS LEVERAGE IN THE PROCESS. >>AND RECENTLY I THINK WE ALL WATCHED AS THE PRESIDENT HAD A MEETING WITH THE AUSTRALIAN PRIME MINISTER — >>RIGHT. >>AND JUST TO PUT INTO CONTEXT, AUSTRALIA IS AN IMPORTANT PARTNER. AUSTRALIA CLEARLY FOR THE U.S. — AUSTRALIA CLEARLY WANTED TO STAY ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE U.S.>>CORRECT. >>THAT WAS VERY CLEAR FROM THIS MEETING THAT WE SAW PART OF IT ON CAMERA. SO WITH THAT EXPECTATION, WHAT KIND OF POSITION DO YOU WORRY THAT PUTS AUSTRALIA IN?>>IT’S NOT AS BAD AS UKRAINE. BUT IT IS ON ANOTHER VULNERABLE POSITION. OBVIOUSLY THE AUSTRALIANS DO REPLY ON THE U.S. AS PART OF OUR FIVE EYES ARRANGEMENT WITH THEM AND OTHERS. TO BASICALLY HAVE A COLLECTIVE DEFENSE AND SHARE INTELLIGENCE WITH EACH OTHER. BUT I JUST — GOING BACK TO WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT BEFORE WITH BILL BARR AND PRESIDENT TRUMP, AGAIN, IT IS YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT BASICALLY LOSING ALL OF ITS INDEPENDENT IN THIS ADMINISTRATION WHERE BASICALLY BILL BARR LOOKS TO THE PRESIDENT FOR BASICALLY LEADERSHIP AS TO HOW THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE DOING ITS JOB.>>WE ALSO JUST CONFIRMED, CNN DID, THAT SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE POMPEO WAS ON THIS PHONE CALL JULY 25th BETWEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT. >>RIGHT. >>WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT? WHAT IS YOUR REACTION?>>WELL, THE FACT THAT MIKE POMPEO WOULD BE PART OF THIS CALL WHERE ESSENTIALLY THE PRESIDENT IS ASKING A FOREIGN LEADER TO INTERFERE IN OUR 2020 ELECTIONS AND HE DOESN’T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT, HE DOESN’T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, HE DOESN’T INTERJECT HIMSELF OR HE DOESN’T BRING IT TO ANYONE’S ATTENTION IN CONGRESS IS PROBLEMATIC. I THINK WE’LL HAVE TO ASK HIM MORE QUESTIONS. APPARENTLY ONE OF HIS AIDES WAS ALSO PART OF THIS CALL. MR. BRECHBUHL ACCORDING TO THE COMPLAINT. BUT ONE THING TO POINT OUT, BRIANNA, IN MY QUESTIONING OF ACTING DNI MAGUIRE LAST WEEK HE SAID MORE THAN A DOZEN PEOPLE WERE ON THE PHONE CALL. AND SO WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO TALK TO THEM AS WELL. >>YOUR COMMITTEES HAS JUST SUBPOENAED NOT RUDY GIULIANI BUT DOCUMENTS FROM RUDY GIULIANI. WHAT HAPPENS IF HE DOESN’T COMPLY WITH THIS?>>WELL, WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS. I THINK PROBABLY WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO HOLD HIM IN CONTEMPT AND LOOK TO REMEDIES TO COMPEL PRODUCTION OF THE DOCUMENTS. BUT THE REASON WHY HE’S THE OBJECT OF THE SUBPOENA IS THAT HE’S ALL OVER THE TRANSCRIPT OF THE PHONE CALL ON JULY 25th OF THIS YEAR AS WELL AS IN THE COMPLAINT. THE QUESTION IS IS HE CONDUCTING OUR FOREIGN POLICY, DESPITE THE FACT THAT HE’S THE PRESIDENT’S PERSONAL ATTORNEY? IS HE TALKING ABOUT WITH HOLDING AID TO THE UKRAINE THAT WAS PROMISED TO THEM AND IS HE ALSO ACTIVELY SEEKING THEIR INTERFERENCE IN THE 2020 ELECTION? ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED ANSWERS TO.>>YOUR COMMITTEES COULD SUBPOENA ACTUALLY HIM TO COME IN AND TESTIFY. ARE YOU INTERESTED IN THAT OR ARE YOU WORRIED THAT IT WOULD JUST TURN INTO A CIRCUS, AKIN TO WHAT WE SAW WITH COREY LEWANDOWSKI?>>Reporter: RUDY GIULIANI AND A CIRCUS. >>DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT, BRIANNA. BUT I THINK THAT FIRST WE HAVE TO GET THE DOCUMENTS. WE HAVE TO EXAMINE THE DOCUMENTS AND PROBABLY TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE FAMILIAR WITH THEM. I SUSPECT THAT CHAIRMAN SCHIFF WOULD PROBABLY CALL HIM IN AT SOME POINT. BUT THE CHAIRMAN IS GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION AND WE’LL BE VERY SUPPORTIVE. >>YOU EXPECT YOU WILL CALL HIM IN AT SOME POINT?>>I SUSPECT THAT HE WOULD BE A WITNESS AT SOME POINT. I’M NOT SURE WHETHER IT WOULD BE AN OPEN OR CLOSED HEARING. BUT I THINK THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO EXAMINE THE DOCUMENTS AND TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE BEFORE CALLING GIULIANI IN. >>IF YOU HAD HIM IN A CLOSED HEARING YOU WOULD RUN INTO CRITICISM YOU’RE NOT DOING THIS IN A TRANSPARENT WAY AND IF YOU HAVE AN OPEN HEARING YOU RUN INTO THE POSSIBILITY THAT IT DOES TURN INTO A LOT OF DRAMA. SO HOW DO YOU WEIGH THOSE THINGS?>>RIGHT. I THINK ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL, I PERSONALLY — I’M JUST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MAXIMUM TRANSPARENCY BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH PUBLIC INTEREST AND WE WANT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO KNOW EXACTLY HOW THE PROCEEDINGS ARE BEING CONDUCTED AND TO HEAR FROM — TO HEAR FOR THEMSELVES FROM THE WITNESSES.>>CONGRESSMAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH. CONGRESSMAN RAJA KRISHNONOORTHI. STAY WITH US WITH MORE ON THE BREAKING NEWS. THREE HOUSE COMMITTEES SUBPOENA RUDY GIULIANI DEMANDING DOCUMENTS FOR THE TRUMP IMPEACHMENT PROBE. >>>PLUS NEW REVELATIONS THE PRESIDENT ASKED AUSTRALIA’S PRIME MINISTER FOR HELP INVESTIGATING THE O O>>>WE’RE FOLLOWING MULTIPLE BREAKING STORIES INCLUDING THREE HOUSE COMMITTEES SUBPOENAING PRESIDENT TRUMP’S PERSONAL ATTORNEY RUDY GIULIANI FOR DOCUMENTS FOR THEIR IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY COMING AS WARE LEARNING THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP ASKED AUSTRALIA’S PRIME MINISTER TO HELP INVESTIGATE THE ORIGINS OF THE MUELLER PROBE. SO LET’S GET THEIN SIGHT OF OUR CORRESPONDENTS AND ANALYSTS HERE. CHRIS, START WITH THE AUSTRALIA PIECE. BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT PRESSURED THE PRIME MINISTER TO GET INVOLVED. DOJ INVESTIGATION INTO THE ORIGINS OF THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION, THE POINT BEING THAT IT WAS AN AUSTRALIAN OFFICIAL WHO ACTUALLY IN A WAY TOLD ON A TRUMP OFFICIAL. >>THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT. SO IMPORTANT THOUGH THE TIMING IS CRAZY, BUT IMPORTANT THAT THIS IS SEPARATE FROM ALL OF THE UKRAINE STUFF AND BEING ON THE PHONE WITH UKRAINE. THIS IS TO YOUR POINT A PROBE INTO THE DONALD TRUMP HAS PUSHED VERY STRONGLY THAT BILL BARR HAS BEEN EXECUTING THROUGH U.S. ATTORNEY. >>WHICH FIRST COULD WE SAY WHY HE IS DOING THAT. IT IS A D–s — IT IS A DOJ INVESTIGATION. >>THIS IS A BAD IDEA. TO BE PRESIDENT AS DOING THIS. >>THE PRESIDENT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO GO INTO JUSTICE AND BE INDEPENDENT. >>BUT LOOK AT THE WAY HE TREATED JEFF SESSIONS AND THE PRESSURE ON JEFF SESSIONS AS ATTORNEY GENERAL. TO THE POINT, OTHER PRESIDENTS UNDERSTAND THAT HE DOES IT. >>CARRY ON, CHRIS. >>WHAT YOU’RE DEALING WITH HERE IS AS YOU POINT OUT, THE REASON THAT THE PROBE BEGAN IN THE FBI, THE COUNTER INTELLIGENCE PROBE ABOUT RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE, INCLUDING JAMES COMEY AND ROBERT MUELLER, IS AN AUSTRALIAN DIPLOMAT WAS IN LONDON TALKING TO GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS, A TRUMP ADVISER AND HE MENTIONED THERE WOULD BE DIRT COMING OUT ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON. THEY DIDN’T THINK ANYTHING OF IT BUT THEN WHEN WIKILEAKS POSTS THESE, THE DNC HACK, THE AUSTRALIANS GOT IN TOUCH WITH THE AMERICANS AND SAID, FYI, WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION. THAT IS THE ORIGIN STORY THERE. SO YOU SORT OF UNDERSTAND WHY AUSTRALIA — IT IS NOT AS RANDOM AS PEOPLE THINK AND THAT SAID WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO WHERE WE STARTED. THIS IS HIGHLY UNUSUAL FOR A PRESIDENT TO DO. AND IT IS OF A PIECE, THOUGH NOT THE SAME THING OF A PIECE OF WHAT WE HAVE IN THE UKRAINE TRANSCRIPT THAT I REMIND PEOPLE WAS RELEASED BY THE WHITE HOUSE. THERE IS NO DEBATE OVER IT. >>AND THE POINT — WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS BE? THAT IS THE QUESTION WE DON’T HAVE THE ANSWER TO. BUT YOU COULD SEE WHERE BREAD CRUMBS LEAD WHICH IS THE PRESIDENT IT TRYING TO IMPUGN THE ORIGINS OF THE INVESTIGATION. >>IT IS NOT ONLY THAT. IT GOES BEYOND. >>THAT I SPOKE TO A SOURCE WHO HAS BEEN IN THE OVAL OFFICE FOR MANY OF THE PHONE CALLS. AND THE SOURCE SAID THIS IS WHAT TRUMP DOES ALL THE TIME. HE WOULD GET ON THE PHONE AND GO ON AND ON ABOUT THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION AND GO OFF AN TH — OFF ON TANGENTS AND WHEN CHIEF OF STAFF JONG WAS CONDUCTING THE CALLS, HE WOULD HAVE SEVEN OR EIGHT DIFFERENT PEOPLE FROM THE STAFF IN THE OVAL OFFICE TO, QUOTE, BABYSIT. AND IF THERE WAS A LONG TRANSLATION GOING ON BACK AND FORTH, GENERAL KELLY WOULD HIT THE MUTE BUTTON ON THE PHONE AND THEY WOULD JUMP IN TO GIVE HIM ADVICE, TO STEER HIM OFF OF THINGS, TELL HIM NOT TO SAY THESE THINGS. THIS WAS THE WAY TRUMP DID BUSINESS ON THESE CALLS. HE DID NOT PREPARE AHEAD OF TIME. IT WAS VERY MUCH FLY BY THE SEAT OF HIS PANTS AND HE WOULD TALK ABOUT WHATEVER HE WANTED TO. >>AND THOSE TRAINING WHEELS, APRIL, THOSE TRAINING WHEELS ARE GONE. >>THREE YEARS IN, THE TRAINING WHEELS — THERE ARE NO TRAINING WHEELS. HE’S RIDING ROGUE. BOTTOM LINE, THIS IS DONALD TRUMP WHO HAS LEARNED THIS PRACTICE FROM WHEN HE WAS A RUTHLESS BUSINESSMAN, OKAY. HE HAS TAKEN THAT AND PUT IT INTO PRACTICE IN THE OVAL OFFICE. THE BOTTOM LINE IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS PRESIDENT, ONE, PEOPLE DIDN’T READ THE MUELLER REPORT. IF THEY READ THE MUELLER REPORT YOU WOULD SEE THIS. SO WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THAT TO UNDERSTAND WHY HE’S SO UPSET. BUT ALL OF THE CHICKENS ARE COMING HOME TO ROAST FOR THIS PRESIDENT. THESE ARE NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUES. HE HAS ALL OF THIS HANGING OVER HIS HEAD AND ANY FOREIGN LEADER COULD HOLD THIS OVER HIS HEAD AND USE THIS TO BLACKMAIL HIM. THIS IS A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE IN A CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS, THIS IS A HOT, STEAMY, STINKY MESS. >>AND JAMIE, WHEN IT COMES TO THE CALL, THE UKRAINE PRESIDENT CALL, MIKE POMPEO WAS ON THIS CALL, JUST CONFIRMED, WHICH IS VERY INTERESTING CONSIDERING THERE WAS NO INDICATION AND HE DANCED AROUND IT THIS WEEKEND ABOUT BEING ON THE CALL OR KNOWING MUCH ABOUT THIS CALL?>>RIGHT. AND WHAT WE’RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THEIR TALKING POINTS FROM THE WHITE HOUSE AND FROM THE REPUBLICANS WAS, WELL, THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE CALL. WE DIDN’T THINK THERE WAS ANYTHING WRONG BUT THERE IS NO QUESTION THE STATE DEPARTMENT WAITED A LONG TIME TO CONFIRM THAT MIKE POMPEO WAS ON THAT CALL. WE STILL DO NOT KNOW WHETHER HE WILL BE TESTIFYING THIS WEEK OR GIVING UP DOCUMENTS. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT ONE THING, MITCH McCONNELL MADE A DECISION TO HAVE A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO HAVE THE UKRAINIAN CALL MEMO RELEASED. I THINK WE’RE GOING TO LOOK BACK AND THAT WILL SET AN IMPORTANT PRECEDENT. THERE ARE OTHER CALLS.>>JUST QUICKLY ON THE SPIN, BRIANNA, IT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE. >>THAT IS NOT BELIEVABLE.>>IF THEY DIDN’T THINK IT WAS A BIG DEAL, THEN WHY DID THE LAWYERS CLASSIFY IT OR PUSH TO HAVE IT CLASSIFIED OR MOVED INTO A SERVER THAT WASN’T — WHICH THEY’VE CONFIRMED HAPPENED. GIVE ME A BREAK.>>IT DOESN’T — >>IT DOESN’T CURVE OUT. >>IT DOESN’T PASS THE SNIFF TEST. DOESN’T SMELL GOOD. JOEY HOUSE DEMOCRATS ARE SUBPOENAING NOT RUDY GIULIANI HIMSELF TO TESTIFY, BUT THEY’RE SUBPOENAING HIS DOCUMENTS. THEY WANT HIM TO PROVIDE DOCUMENTS RELATED TO UKRAINE. WHAT HAPPENS HERE IF GIULIANI DOESN’T COMPLY AND CAN YOU IMAGINE A SITUATION WHERE HE COMES AND WE SEE HIM TESTIFY?>>SO, LISTEN, UNDER NORMAL TIMES, BRIANNA, I WOULD TELL YOU THAT THE DOCUMENTS WOULD BE PRODUCED. HE WOULD TESTIFY. IF HE DIDN’T TESTIFY HE WOULD BE HELD IN CONTEMPT AND IT WOULD BE THAT SIMPLE. WE’RE NOT IN NORMAL TIMES. NORMS ARE BEING CHANGED EVERY SINGLE DAY. AND YOU KNOW WHAT, IT IS AN OPEN QUESTION. LET ME TELL YOU WHY. CONGRESS ABSOLUTELY HAS SUBPOENA POWER. THEY’RE ISSUING SUBPOENAS FOR LEGITIMATE LEGISLATIVE PURPOSES AND THE DOCUMENTS SHOULD BE PRODUCED. NUMBER ONE, YOU LOOK TO THE INHERENT POWER OF CONGRESS TO HOLD SOMEONE IN CONTEMPT AND THEY NEVER USE IT IN MODERN TIMES SO UNDER INHERENT POWERS NOTHING WILL HAPPEN. YOU LOOK TO STATUTORY POWERS, YOU NEED THE U.S. ATTORNEY, BRIANNA, IN ORDER TO FORCE A CONTEMPT CITATION. WELL GUESS WHO CONTROLS THE U.S. ATTORNEY? THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH CONTROLS IT. AND GIULIANI IS THE PRIVATE ATTORNEY TO THE PRESIDENT. SO GUESS WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU TRY TO ISSUE A STATUTORY CONTEMPT? THAT LEADS TO THE CIVIL CONTEMPT CITATION IN WHICH YOU NEED A JUDGE. LY TELL YOU WHEN THEY LOOK TO DO THE CITATION INVOLVING THE FAST AND FURIOUS, IT TOOK SIX YEARS SO WHO KNOWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN ULTIMATELY. >>TO GO TO JOEY AND APRIL — AND APRIL’S POINT, I CAN’T TELL YOU THE NUMBER OF REPUBLICANS THAT HAVE SAID WE ARE IN A CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS NOW. >>YEAH. >>AND YOU COULD — IT IS NOT NORMAL TIMES TO QUOTE JOEY JACKSON. YOU SPOKE WITH A SOURCE WHO HAS BEEN IN THE ROOM WHO KNOWS THAT THESE ARE JUST THE WAY CALLS GO. YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT. THAT SAID, THIS IS NOT HOW CALLS GO UNDER ANY OTHER PRESIDENT. SO WITH THE CHECKS AND BALANCES IN A WAY, SORT OF GETTING OUT OF WHACK HERE. WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US, JAMIE?>>I THINK THEY’LL BE QUESTIONS COMING UP THAT WE’RE ALREADY HEARING. WHERE ARE THE CALLS WITH THE SAUDIS? WHERE ARE THE CALLS WITH THE RUSSIANS? WHAT IS THE PRESSURE GOING TO BE FROM RUSSIA TO THE WHITE HOUSE NOT TO RELEASE THOSE CALLS. THOSE WOULD BE VERY SENSITIVE ONES. MY SOURCE WAS NOT ON ANY CALLS WITH MBS, THE SAUDIS OR THE RUSSIANS BUT SAID THAT THERE WAS TALK IN THE WHITE HOUSE THAT THOSE CALLS WERE, QUOTE, PROBLEMATIC. >>AND JUST IT SHOULDN’T SURPRISE US, RIGHT. LET’S THINK BACK. DONALD TRUMP DAY AFTER HE FIRED JAMES COMEY IN THE OVAL OFFICE WITH TWO TOP RUSSIAN OFFICIALS AND HE TELLS THEM I HAD A LOT OF PRESSURE RELIEVED FROM ME, IF HE’S DOING THAT IN THAT SETTING, WHAT IS HE DOING ON PHONE. JAMIE’S POINT IS ONE WE HAVE TO KEEP HARPING ON. THIS IS WHO HE IS. EVERYTHING — IF HE BEHAVES THAT WAY SEMI PUBLICLY AND PUBLICLY — >>WHY WOULD WE THINK — >>HE’S THINKING HE’S PATRIOTIC FOR HIM TO BE WHO HE IS. THAT IS THE PROBLEM. >>WE’VE SO LONG DESCRIBED IT AS NOT NORMAL. DO YOU GO BEYOND THAT WHEN WE’RE DISCUSSING A FOREIGN LEADER. >>YOU’RE PUTTING NATIONAL SECURITY AT RISK AND PUTTING PEOPLE AT RISK. YOU CAN’T TRUST WHAT HE’S SAYING. IS HE UNDERCUTTING AMERICA TO GET WHAT HE WANTS, NOT FOR AMERICA BUT FOR HIM TO CLEAR HIS NAME. >>CAN WE TALK ABOUT THIS WHISTLE-BLOWER. BECAUSE THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS WHISTLE-BLOWER GOING THROUGH THIS OFFICIAL FORMAL PROCESS IS THIS WHISTLE-BLOWER IS DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY. RIGHT? THIS IS AFFORDING OR SUPPOSED TO AFFORD THE WHISTLE-BLOWER PROTECTIONS. AND YET LISTEN TO WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID WHEN HE WAS ASKED IF HE KNOWS THIS PERSON’S IDENTITY.>>WE’RE TRYING TO FIND OUT ABOUT A WHISTLE-BLOWER. WE HAVE A WHISTLE-BLOWER THAT REPORTS THINGS THAT WERE INCORRECT.>>JOEY JACKSON. [ LAUGHTER ]>>WE’RE WITH YOU, JOEY. >>KEEPING IN MIND — THIS IS THE PRESIDENT. BUT IF YOU EVEN — JUST TAKE THAT PIECE OUT OF — AS A LAWYER YOU KNOW WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE. WHEN IT COMES TO DEALING WITH, SAY, WITNESSES — >>IT IS HIGHLY PROBLEMATIC. LET’S UNDERSTAND THAT THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE WHISTLE-BLOWER IS NOT TO HAVE ANY POLICY DISPUTE. WE COULD DEBATE NIGHT AND DAY ABOUT POLICY. BUT IF THERE IS A LAWFUL VIOLATION SO THAT YOU COULD COME FORWARD AND LEGITIMATELY TELL OF THE LAWFUL VIOLATION WITHOUT DISCLOSING YOUR IDENTITY, WITHOUT BEING RETALIATED AGAINST AND WITHOUT THE PRESIDENT MAKING SUGGESTIONS ABOUT THIS IS WHAT WE DO WITH WHISTLE-BLOWERS. AND SO, LOOK, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THEN YOU GET TO THE POINT, BRIANNA, WILL THE WHISTLE-BLOWER GET TO TELL THEIR STORY OR WILL THEIR IDENTITY BE PROTECTED OR LEAKED? WHERE WILL IT OCCUR. AND THERE ARE SO MANY OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS BUT YOU HAVE TO PROTECT WHISTLE-BLOWERS BECAUSE YOU SET A PRECEDENT IF YOU DON’T. >>IT IS WAY BEYOND PROBLEMATIC. IT IS OUTRAGEOUS WHEN YOU HAVE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IMPLYING THAT HE’S GOING TO GO AFTER THE WHISTLE-BLOWER. >>HE CALLED THIS PERSON A POTENTIAL SPY. STEPHEN MILLER SAID IT IS PROBABLY A DEEP STATE SPY. IT IS BEYOND WE’LL FIND OUT WHO IT IS. YOU’RE HAVING THIS IMPUGN OVER AND OVER AGAIN FOR FOLLOWING THE RULES SET UP TO KEEP THE GOVERNMENT HONEST. >>ABOUT WHY ARE WE ACTING SURPRISED? THIS IS WHAT THE PRESIDENT DOES. IF HE DOESN’T LIKE JOURNALISTS, HE WILL GET THEM AND WE HAVE TO HAVE BODYGUARDS AND CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS WHO HAVE TO HAVE BODYGUARDS BUT I TALKED TO CONGRESSWOMAN VAL DEMINGS OVER THE WEEKEND AND SHE SAID THEY’RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO PROTECT THIS WHISTLE-BLOWER. SHE SITS ON THREE OF THE COMMITTEES — THREE OF THE SIX COMMITTEES DEALING WITH THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY AND THEY WILL DO EVERYTHING COME HELL AND HIGH WATER TO PROTECT THE IDENTITY AND PROTECT THIS WHISTLE-BLOWER. >>I WANT TO ASK ALL OF YOU ABOUT SOMETHING THAT YOU JUST SAID, APRIL. BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND YOU’RE SAYING WHY SHOULD WE BE SURPRISED. WHAT IF WE WERE NOT SURPRISED –>>I’M NOT. >>I KNOW YOU WERE NOT SURPRISED BUT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SURPRISED OR SHOCKS AND PAYING ATTENTION TO SOMETHING.>>I THINK YOU SHOULD — I THINK THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING SURPRISED TO APRIL’S POINT I THINK DON’T WE SHOULD BE AND BEING SHOCKED. YOU SHOULD BE SHOCKED IN THAT THIS CONTINUES TO BE AN ABSOLUTE WALKING AWAY FROM THE IDEA OF WHAT THE U.S. IS IN THE WORLD, THE IDEA OF THE PRESIDENCY AS A MORAL LEADER. SO YOU SHOULD BE SHOCKED. NOT BE SURPRISED. BUT YOU CAN’T GIVE UP BEING SHOCKED — >>BUT THERE IS MORE SHOCK ABOUT THE REPUBLICANS WHO ARE ENABLING THIS PRESIDENT AND WHO ARE SPINNING THIS WHEN THIS IS ABOUT PATRIOTISM, NOT ABOUT A PERSON. BUT ABOUT THIS COUNTRY. THAT IS WHAT I’M SHOCKED ABOUT. >>JOEY, I’M CURIOUS AS SOMEONE WHO HAD TO CONVINCE PEOPLE OVER TIME OF THINGS, YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMEONE JUST SORT OF NORMALIZES OR ASSOCIATES OR ALLOWS A CERTAIN KIND OF BEHAVIOR FROM SOME PERSON, THEY MAY BE DEEMED BY A GROUP OF PEOPLE, WHETHER IT IS VOTERS OR A JURY, TO LET SOMETHING SLIDE.>>YEAH. YOU KNOW WHAT, BRIANNA, IT IS JUST — WE’RE LIVING IN SUCH POLARIZING TIMES AND I THINK WHAT THE PRESIDENT CONSTANTLY ATTEMPTED TO DO IS ENSURE HIS BASE AND TO COME UP WITH CONSPIRACY THEORIES AND TO OTHERWISE THROW OUT INFORMATION WHETHER IT IS ABOUT CORRUPT BIDEN’S SON, RIGHT. MIND YOU, NO CORRUPTION FOUND. PROSECUTOR DOESN’T — FACTS DON’T MATTER. IT JUST MATTERS WHAT THE PRESIDENT THROWS OUT THERE AND SO IT IS NICE IF WE COULD HAVE A LEGAL DISCUSSION BUT THE PRESIDENT MOVES IT FROM A LEGAL DISCUSSION TO A POLITICAL DISCUSSION TO SAY, LOOK AT THOSE DEMOCRATS, LOOK AT WHAT THEY’RE DOING. THEY WANT TO BRING UP THIS IMPEACHMENT ISSUE FOR THAT? REALLY. I’M TALKING ABOUT A FOREIGN LEADER GETTING INVOLVED IN THIS COUNTRY’S ELECTIONS. IT DOESN’T MATTER. IT IS INSANE WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW. AND IT IS THE SPINNING AND SPINNING THAT WE’RE HEARING IN THE POLARIZATION AND THAT BECOMES A PROBLEM.>>I THINK THERE IS A GREAT DANGER AND WE TALK ABOUT HOW HE’S BECOME NORMALIZED AND WHAT HE DOES IS NORMAL. I THINK THERE IS A GREAT DANGER WHEN PEOPLE SAY TO ME ON THE PHONE, WELL, HE ACTED THAT WAY IN THE CALLS BECAUSE THAT’S DONALD TRUMP.>>BUT THAT IS NOT — THAT IS NOT OKAY. >>THAT IS WHAT I’M ASKING. YOU’RE RIGHT, THE SURPRISE FACTOR IS DEFINITELY DIMINISHED OVER TIME SEVERELY. >>IF BARACK OBAMA — HE LIKES TO BRING UP BARACK OBAMA. IF BARACK OBAMA HAD DONE ONE-TENTH OF WHAT HE’S DONE, BARACK OBAMA WOULD HAVE BEEN OUT THE FIRST DAY. >>AND THERE IS A DIFFERENCE FROM DOING THINGS IN AN UNORTHODOX WAY WHICH IS WHAT HE PROMISES AND DOING THING DETRIMENTAL TO OUR SOCIETY AND THE GLOBAL COMMUNITY. HUGE DIFFERENCE. >>BUT THE PROBLEM, BRIANNA, QUICKLY, IS LOOK, HE GETS HIS PROTECTION. IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT THE HOUSE WANTS TO DO. HE’LL BE PROTECTED IN THE SENATE. YOU COULD IMPEACH THE PRESIDENT, I DON’T CARE. YOU’LL GET TWO-THIRDS OF THE VOTES, 67 SENATORS. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. SO HE FEELS HE COULD ACT WITH IMPUNITY AND CONTINUES TO HAPPEN AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT GETS WORSE.>>JAMIE?>>I WANT TO SAY I KNOW EVERYONE KEEPS SAYING THAT THE SENATE WILL NOT REMOVE HIM AND WE ARE A LONG WAY, AND WE DON’T HAVE ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT BUT WATCH THE POLLS TODAY, WATCH THEM IN THE NEXT WEEK. LET’S SEE WHAT ELSE COMES OUT.>>EXACTLY. >>THERE ARE MANY REPUBLICANS THAT I TALKED TO WHO WOULD BE RELIEVED NOT TO HAVE HIM IN OFFICE ANY MORE. >>23 REPUBLICANS BY THE WAY UP FOR RE-ELECTION IN 2020 INCLUDING FIVE OR SIX IN REAL TARGETED RACES. >>CHRIS, JAMIE, WHAT JAMIE SAID, APRIL. JOEY JACKSON — WHAT JOEY SAID. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE ARE BREAKING NEWS. THE FIRST REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN TO ENDORSE DONALD TRUMP’S RUN FOR PRESIDENT ABRUPTLY RESIGNED AND IS GOING TO BE IN FEDERAL COURT TOMORRO>>>BREAKING NEWS. NEW YORK REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATIVE CHRIS COLLINS RESIGNED FROM CONGRESS TODAY. COURT PAPERS SHOW HE’LL PLEAD GUILTY TOMORROW TO FEDERAL CHARGES ARISING FROM AN INSIDER TRADING INVESTIGATION. LET’S GO TO CNN’S BRYNN GINGRAS IN NEW YORK. TELL US WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE. >>Reporter: A SPOKESPERSON FOR HOUSE SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI’S OFFICE SAID THEY DID RECEIVE A RESIGNATION LETTER FROM COLLINS AND IT WILL BE EFFECTIVE TOMORROW WHEN IT IS ADDRESSED ON THE HOUSE FLOOR. AS TO THE CRIMINAL CASE, IT IS UNCLEAR WHAT CHARGES COLLINS WILL PLEAD GUILTY TO TOMORROW BUT IF YOU REMEMBER IN AUGUST 2018 FEDERAL PROSECUTORS ACCUSED HIM OF GIVING INSIDE TRADING INFORMATION ABOUT AN AUSTRALIAN BIO PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY. COLLINS SERVED ON THE BOARD OF THE COMPANY AND ESSENTIALLY GAVE A HEADS UP TO HIS SON AND AN ASSOCIATE WHEN THE DRUG FAILED AN IMPORTANT DRUG TRIAL ALLOWING THEM TO DUMP STOCK ACCORDING TO PROSECUTORS. AND EVEN WHEN THE CHARGES CAME DOWN AGAINST COLLINS, HIS SON AND AN ASSOCIATE, COLLINS WAS DEFIANT. EVEN HELD A PRESS CONFERENCE IF YOU REMEMBER WITH HIS WIFE BY HIS SIDE SAYING HE WOULD FIGHT THE CHARGES. HE PLEADED NOT GUILTY TWICE TO THE ORIGINAL INDICTMENT AND THEN WHEN THE CHARGES WERE RECENTLY ADVISED — REVISED, RATHER, COLLINS REMANDED ADAM AND THAT HE WILL WIN HIS CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT AGAIN IN THE 2018 ELECTION WHICH HE DID WIN RE-ELECTION EVEN WITH THE INDICTMENT HANGING OVER HIS HEAD. AND KEEP IN MIND, AS YOU SAID, BEFORE COLLINS REPRESENTS A DISTRICT IN UPSTATE NEW YORK. IT IS A HEAVILY RED DISTRICT AND HE WAS THE FIRST SITTING CONGRESSMAN TO ENDORSE TRUMP DURING THE 2016 ELECTION BUT CLEARLY HAVING A CHANGE OF HEART NOW BEFORE THIS CASE. HE’S SET TO PLEAD GUILTY AND HIS SON AND ASSOCIATE WILL FOLLOW SUIT LATER THIS WEEK. >>THANK YOU FOR THAT. >>>COMING UP, JOHN BOLTON UNVARNISHED HOW THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER LABELLED HIS FIRST PUBLIC S>>>FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER JOHN BOLTON HAS SHARP CRITICISM FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP ON NORTH KOREA. CNN’S BRIAN TODD IS HERE WITH DETAILS. AND BRIAN, BOLTON USED HIS FIRST SPEECH SINCE LEAVING THE WHITE HOUSE TO SAY THE PRESIDENT IS BASICALLY WRONG ABOUT KIM JONG-UN.>>BRIANNA, BOLTON SAID THE PRESIDENT IS WRONG, POLICE GU — MISGUIDED AND NAIVE ANT WITHOUT MENTIONING TRUMP BY NAME BUT THE MESSENGER WAS CLEAR JOHN BOLTON BELIEVES HIS OLD BOSS IS GETTING HOOD-WINKED BY THE SUPREME LEADER IN PYONGYANG. WHO NORTH KOREA ONCE CALLED A WAR MONGER AND HUMAN DEFECT IS FIRING BACK TONIGHT GIVING WHAT HE CALLS HIS OWN UNVARNISHED VIEW OF NORTH KOREA’S KIM JONG-UN AND HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH TRUMP.>>UNDER CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES HE WILL NEVER GIVE UP THE NUCLEAR WEAPONS VOLUNTARILY. >>Reporter: IN HIS FIRST PUBLIC SPEECH SINCE GETTING AXED BY THE PRESIDENT ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO, TRUMP’S FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER HAD NO PROBLEM CONTRADICTING HIS OLD BOSS’S OPTIMISM ABOUT KIM’S INTENTIONS.>>HE WANTS TO DENUCLEARIZATION.>>I THINK THE CONTRARY IS TRUE. I THINK THE STRATEGIC DECISION THAT KIM JONG-UN IS OPERATING THROUGH IS THAT HE WILL DO WHATEVER HE CAN TO KEEP A DELIVERABLE NUCLEAR WEAPONS CAPABILITY. >>Reporter: IN CANDID COMMENTS AND STARK TERMS, BOLTON MADE NO BONES ABOUT HIS BELIEF THAT NORTH KOREA IS A ROGUE REGIME LED BY A MAN WHO CAN’T BE TRUSTED. SOMETHING THAT PUT HIM IN CONFLICT WITH THE PRESIDENT.>>WE LIKE EACH OTHER. GOOD RELATIONSHIP.>>Reporter: AS FOR THE FACT THAT TRUMP CONTINUES TO BRAG THAT NORTH KOREA HAS STOPPED TESTING NUCLEAR WEAPONS — >>THERE HAS BEEN NO BALLISTIC MISSILE TESTS AND THERE HAS BEEN NO NUCLEAR TESTS. >>Reporter: BOLTON SUGGESTED THAT IS NOT A SIGN OF CAPITULATION, IT IS EVIDENCE THAT KIM JONG-UN BELIEVES HIS PROGRAM IS READY.>>NORTH KOREA HAS IN ITS JUDGMENT FOR WELL OR ILL FINISHED TESTING. AND CAN PRODUCE NUCLEAR WARHEADS AND LONG-RANGE BALLISTIC MISSILES. THAT IS NOT AN ENCOURAGING SIGN, THAT IS A SIGN TO BE WORRIED ABOUT. >>Reporter: AND BOLTON HAD A WARNING FOR THE PRESIDENT REGARDING ONE OF THE SIGNATURE FRAMES ON THE PACE OF NUCLEAR TALKS. >>I’M IN NO RUSH. >>WHEN WE SAY WELL, WE’RE IN NO RUSH FOR NEGOTIATIONS, WE’RE IN NO RUSH FOR RESOLUTION OF THIS, WE’RE SAYING TO NORTH KOREA AND IRAN, TAKE YOUR TIME. KEEP GOING. YOU’VE GOT MORE TIME TO PLAN, TO TEST, TO PRODUCE, TO DEPLOY THESE CAPABILITIES.>>Reporter: THE WHITE HOUSE ISN’T COMMENTING TONIGHT ON BOLTON’S CRITICISMS. BUT BOLTON IS DRAWING CRITICISM FROM OTHER QUARTERS. SOME NORTH KOREA ANALYSTS SAY BOLTON IS LOOKING AT THE NUCLEAR TALKS IN BLACK AND WHITE TERMS AND THAT HE’S IGNORING A MIDDLE GROUND THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP COULD REACH WITH THE YOUNG DICTATOR.>>HE’S A 30-SOMETHING-YEAR-OLD WHO WANTS TO GET HIS FRIENDS RICH AND BE AS RICH AS THE RICH PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD. AND HE MAY BE WILLING TO SELL OFF SOME PARTS OF HIS ARSENAL TO GET THAT. >>Reporter: MEANTIME OTHER ANALYSTS SAY BOLTON WENT TOO FAR TODAY BY SUGGESTING THE U.S. SHOULD CONSIDER GETTING RID OF KIM JONG-UN.>>THERE ARE THINGS WE SHOULD LOOK TO AND HAVE SERIOUS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT. ONE IS THE POSSIBILITY LIMITED THOUGH IT MAY BE OF REGIME CHANGE IN NORTH KOREA.>>Reporter: THAT IS SOMETHING THE PRESIDENT AND HIS TOP AIDES SAY THEY’RE NOT PURSUING.>>REGIME CHANGE COULD OPEN THE DOOR TO A LOT OF DISASTROUS END RESULTS IF YOU FAIL CLEARLY NORTH KOREA MAY LASH OUT AT THE SOUTH AND OUR FORCES THERE AND EVEN THE CONTINENTAL U.S. EVEN IF WE SUCCEED, WE COULD HAVE A QUAGMIRE THAT IS VERY HARD TO GET OUT OF IT. >>AS IF TO SILL STRAIGHT HOW DIFFICULT IT WOULD BE, JOHN BOLTON WHEN ASKED WHAT KIM JONG-UN IS REALLY LIKE SAID THE DICTATOR IS THOROUGHLY IN CHARGE OF HIS COUNTRY AND MAKES ALL OF THE DECISION AND NOT A PUPPET OF HIS FAMILY ORT MILITARY OR ANYONE ELSE.>>AND IT WASN’T LIKE BOLTON JUST SAID THERE WAS ONE WAY IN WHICH HE THINKS TRUMP HAS CAPITULATED TO KIM JONG-UN. >>RIGHT. HE SAID THAT WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP PROMISED KIM JONG-UN HE WOULD SCALE BACK THE JOINT U.S. MILITARY EXERCISES WITH SOUTH KOREA, HE BELIEVES TRUMP MADE A MISTAKE. BOLTON SAID AND SOME ANALYSTS AGREE THAT SCALING BACK THE DRILLS WILL TAKE AWAY THE READINESS OF AMERICAN FORCES TO FIGHT NORTH KOREA IF THERE IS A CRISIS.>>CNN BRIAN TODD THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>>AND WE HAVE BREAKING NEWS CONTINUING NEXT. CNN HAS LEARNED THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP PRESSURED ANOTHER FOREIGN LEADER TO HELP>>>HAPPENING NOW, BREAKING NEWS. RUDE DOCUMENT DEMAND. HOUSE DEMOCRATS PUSH THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY FORWARD WITH A SUBPOENA FOR DOCUMENTS FROM THE PRESIDENT’S PERSONAL ATTORNEY RUDY GIULIANI.>>>BLOWING HIS COVER. PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID THE WHITE HOUSE IS TRYING TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THE WHISTLE-BLOWER WHO SET OFF THE IMPEACHMENT INVESTIGATION. HE’S ALSO TWEETING DEMANDS TO MEET HIS ACCUSER AND WARNING HOW INTELLIGENCE CHAIRMAN ADAM SCHIFF THAT HE COULD BE ARRESTED FOR TREASON.>>>GROWING SUPPORT. A NEW CNN POLL SHOWS A GROWING NUMBER OF INDEPENDENTS AND REPUBLICANS SUPPORTING IMPEACHMENT FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP AND REMOVING HIM FROM OFFICE. BUT THE COUNTRY IS STILL CLOSELY DIVIDED ON THIS CRUCIAL QUESTION. >>>AND PAYING COLLEGE ATHLETES, CALIFORNIA’S GOVERNOR SIGNED A NEW LAW THAT OPENS THE DOOR FOR PAY DAYS FOR PLAYERS. WILL STUDENT ATHLETES SOON BE SIGNING ENDORSEMENT DEALS? WE WELCOME OUR VIEWERS IN THE UNITED STATES AND AROUND THE WORLD. WOLF BLITZER IS OFF TODAY. I’M BRIANNA KEILAR, YOU’RE IN “THE SITUATION ROOM.”>>Announcer: THIS IS CNN BREAKING NEWS. >>>WE’RE FOLLOWING BREAKING NEWS. HOUSE DEMOCRATS ARE DEMANDING RUDY GIULIANI TURN OVER DOCUMENTS RELATED TO UKRAINE. THE NEW SUBPOENA IS A KEY MOMENT IN THIS RAPIDLY-INTENSIFYING IMPEACHMENT POACH IN AN OMINOUS TWEET PRESIDENT TRUMP WARNED AGAINST CAUSING A CIVIL WAR-LIKE FRACTURE IN THE COUNTRY AND TOLD REPORTERS WAS DETERMINED TO UNCOVER THE IDENTITY OF THE WHISTLE-BLOWER BUT AN EXCLUSIVE NEW CNN POLL SHOWS PUBLIC SUPPORT FOR THE INVESTIGATION IS GROWING. NEARLY HALF OF AMERICANS IN THE POLL NOW SAY THEY WANT THE PRESIDENT IMPEACHED AND REMOVED FROM OFFICE. WE’RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS BREAKING NEWS WITH CONGRESSMAN GERRY CONNELLY OF THE OVERSIGHT AND FOREIGN AFFAIRS COMMITTEES AND OUR CORRESPONDENTS AND ANALYSTS ARE ALSO STANDING BY. WE BEGIN ON CAPITOL HILL WHERE CNN CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT SUNLEN SERFATY IS TRACKING THE LATEST DEVELOPMENTS. WHAT ARE LAWMAKERS DEMANDING FROM RUDY GIULIANI?>>Reporter: THEY WANT INFORMATION AND DOCUMENTS FROM RUDY GIULIANI RELATED TO THE UKRAINE — WHICH IS NOW THE CENTER OF THE HOUSE DEMOCRATS’ IMPEACHMENT PROBE. SPECIFICALLY THE POWERFUL HOUSE COMMITTEES, THEY ARE REFERENCING RUDY GIULIANI’S OWN ADMISSION ON CNN THAT HE INDEED HAD ASKED UKRAINE FOR INFORMATION ON BIDEN ALSO THE FACT THAT RUDY GIULIANI RECENTLY SAID THAT HE WAS NOT ACTING ALONE, THAT HE HAD TEXT MESSAGES FROM STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIALS WHERE THEY KNEW ABOUT HIS EFFORTS IN UKRAINE. SO ESSENTIALLY THE COMMITTEE IS ASKING FOR ALL OF THAT. THE TEXT MESSAGES AND INFORMATION AND PHONE CALLS AND ANY OTHER COMMUNICATIONS TO SHOW WHAT AND WHO ELSE WAS INVOLVED IN THIS EFFORT AND THEY WANT THAT HANDED OVER TO THE COMMITTEE IN TWO WEEKS, BY OCTOBER 15th AS PART OF THIS THEY ALSO SENT LETTERS TO THREE OF GIULIANI’S BUSINESS ASSOCIATES ALSO ASKING FOR DOCUMENTS AND FOR ASKING THEM TO SCHEDULE DEPOSITIONS. UNCLEAR AT THIS POINT HOW GIULIANI WILL RESPOND. BUT AGAIN ANOTHER INDICATION OF THE ESCALATION OF THE HOUSE DEMOCRATS GOING VERY QUICKLY, BRIANNA, IN THIS IMPEACHMENT PROBE. >>SUNLEN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT REPORT. FOR MORE ON PRESIDENT TRUMP’S REACTION TO THE LATE BREAKING DEVELOPMENTS, LET’S GET TO OUR CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT JIM ACOSTA ON THE NORTH LAWN. AND THE PRESIDENT SAID HIS TEAM IS WORKING TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THIS WHISTLE-BLOWER WHICH IS PRETTY ODD. >>Reporter: THAT IS RIGHT, BRIANNA. PRESIDENT TRUMP SUGGESTED TO REPORTERS THE WHITE HOUSE IS TRYING TO DISCOVER THE IDENTITY OF THE WHISTLE-BLOWER WHOSE COMPLAINT LAUNCHED THE UKRAINE INVESTIGATION. THE PRESIDENT IS ON THE ATTACK WARNING THE CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE ADAM SCHIFF COULD BE ARRESTED FOR TREASON AND THE COUNTRY COULD BE DRAWN INTO A CIVIL WAR IF HE’S IMPEACHED. I’M TOLD AIDES TO THE PRESIDENT HAVE CAUTIONED HIM JUST IN THE LAST FEW DAYS, HE FACES THE REAL LIKELIHOOD OF IMPEACHMENT NOW. IN A SIGN OF GROWING FRUSTRATION THAT HE FACES THE REAL PROSPECT OF IMPEACHMENT, PRESIDENT TRUMP IS DEMANDING TO FIND OUT THE IDENTITY OF THE ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL WHO BLEW THE WHISTLE ON HIS PHONE CALL WITH THE LEADER OF UKRAINE ABOUT JOE BIDEN. >>WE’RE TRYING TO FIND OUT ABOUT A WHISTLE-BLOWER. WHEN YOU HAVE A WHISTLE-BLOWER THAT REPORTS THINGS THAT WERE INCORRECT. AS YOU KNOW AND YOU PROBABLY NOW HAVE FIGURED IT OUT, THE STATEMENT I MADE TO THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE, A GOOD MAN, A NICE MAN, KNEW WAS PERFECT. >>Reporter: BACK TO A QUICK RESPONSE FROM THE WHISTLE-BLOWER’S ATTORNEY WHO TWEETED THE INTEL COMMUNITY WHISTLE-BLOWER IS ENTITLED TO ANONYMITY AND LAW AND POLICY SUPPORT THIS AND THE INDIVIDUAL IS NOT TO BE RETALIATED AGAINST AND DOING SO IS A VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW. THE PRESIDENT TORE INTO HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN ADAM SCHIFF FOR MOCKING MR. TRUMP’S CALL AT A HEARING LAST WEEK. TWEETING ADAM SCHIFF ILLEGALLY MADE UP A FAKE AND TERRIBLE STATION, ARREST FOR TREASON.>>IT IS A DISGRACE. THIS WHOLE THING IS A DISGRACE. THERE IS TREMENDOUS CORRUPTION AND WE’RE SEEKING IT. IT IS CALLED DRAIN THE SWAMP. THERE HAS BEEN CORRUPTION ON THE OTHER SIDE. THERE HAS BEEN CORRUPTION LIKE YOU’VE NEVER SEEN. >>Reporter: WHITE HOUSE AIDES HAVE GROWN FRUSTRATED WITH HIS BOGUS CONSPIRACY THEORY THAT IT WAS UKRAINE AND NOT RUSSIA THAT MEDDLED IN THE 2016 ELECTION, A FALSE CLAIM COUNTER-TERRORISM EXPERT TOM BOSSERT TRIED TO DEFIED. >>I’M FRUSTRATED WHAT THE LEGAL TEAM IS REPEATING THAT DEBUNKED EFFORT TO THE PRESIDENT AND IT STICKS IN MIS MIND OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND FOR CLARITY HERE LET ME REPEAT IT HAS TO VALIDITY. >>Reporter: OVER THE WEEKEND THE PRESIDENT WARNED HIS REMOVAL FROM OFFICE WOULD CAUSE A CIVIL WAR-LIKE FRACTURE PROMPTED ONE HOUSE REPUBLICAN TO TWEET I’VE VISITED NATIONS RAVAGED BY CIVIL WAR AND NEVER IMAGINED SUCH A QUOTE TO BE REPEATED BY A PRESIDENT. THIS IS BEYOND REPUGNANT. MR. TRUMP’S 2016 FOE SUMMED IT UP BY CALLING THE PRESIDENT A DISTINCTIVE FORCE OF NATURE. >>A CORRUPT HUMAN TORNADO. >>Reporter: MITCH McCONNELL SAID HIS CHAMBER WOULD HAVE TO CONSIDER REMOVING THE PRESIDENT IF THE HOUSE VOTES TO IMPEACH. >>UNDER THE SENATE RULES WE’RE REQUIRED TO TAKE IT UP IF THE HOUSE DOES GO DOWN THAT PATH. AND WE’LL FOLLOW THE SENATE RULES. IF A SENATE RULE RELATED TO IMPEACHMENT WOULD TAKE 67 VOTES TO CHANGE SO I WOULD HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO TAKE IT UP. >>Reporter: EVEN THE TOP SURROGATES ARE STRUGGLING TO SPIN THE INVESTIGATION. >>PRESIDENT TRUMP REPLIES, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO DO US A FAVOR THOUGH. >>YOU JUST ADDED ANOTHER WORD. >>NO. IT IS IN THE TRANSCRIPT. >>YOU SAID I COULD DO A FAVOR THOUGH. >>YES, IT IS IN THE WHITE HOUSE TRANSCRIPT. >>Reporter: ONE TOP WHITE HOUSE OFFICIAL STRANGELY INSISTED IT IS THE PRESIDENT WHO IS BLOWING THE WHISTLE. >>THE PRESIDENT IS THE WHISTLE-BLOWER HERE. THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS THE WHISTLE-BLOWER. AND THIS INDIVIDUAL IS A SAB ATURE TRYING TO UNDERMINE A DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED GOVERNMENT.>>Reporter: NOW SOURCES FAMILIAR WITH INTERNAL DELIBERATIONS OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS INVOLVING MR. TRUMP AND TOP ADVISERS ABOUT HIS CALL WITH UKRAINE’S LEADER SAY AIDES TO THE PRESIDENT HAVE WARNED HIM HE FACES THE REAL LIKELIHOOD OF BEING IMPEACHED BE IT BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. ONE SOURCE SAID THAT AIDES ARE DIVIDED OVER THIS SUBJECT AS SOME ARE REASSURING THE PRESIDENT THAT HOUSE SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI IS JUST PLACATING DEMOCRATS AND WON’T ULTIMATELY DRIVE THIS EFFORT UP ON CAPITOL HILL TOWARDS AN IMPEACHMENT VOTE. AS FOR THE IMPEACHMENT QUESTION ITSELF, A NEW CNN POLL HAS JUST COME OUT AND WE COULD PUT THIS UP ON SCREEN SHOWING THE PUBLIC IS BECOMING MORE OPEN TO THE IDEA WITH 47% SAYING THEY SUPPORT IMPEACHING AND REMOVING THE PRESIDENT FROM OFFICE, CONTRAST THAT WITH 41% BACK IN MAY, A BIG MOVE IN THOSE NUMBERS AND ONE THING WE SHOULD POINT OUT, THE “WALL STREET JOURNAL” REPORTED THIS AFTERNOON AND CNN HAS CONFIRMED THAT THE SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE POMPEO WAS ON THAT JULY 25th PHONE CALL THAT THE PRESIDENT HAD WITH UKRAINE’S PRESIDENT. BRIANNA. >>JIM ACOSTA, THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE HAVE MORE BREAKING NEWS TONIGHT. CNN HAS LEARNED THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP ALSO LEANED ON AUSTRALIA PRIME MINISTER FOR ASSISTANCE. A SOURCE TELLING OUR EVAN PEREZ THE PRESIDENT WANTED THE AUSTRALIANS TO HELP WITH THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT PROBE INTO THE ORIGINS OF THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION. AND EVAN, YOU ARE JOINING US NOW. WE TALK ABOUT THE UKRAINE CALL. THAT IS ABOUT A FUTURE ELECTION. THIS IS ABOUT DISCREDITING THE ORIGINS OF THE MUELLER REPORT WHICH LOOKED INTO THE PAST ELECTION. >>RIGHT. EXACTLY. AND THIS IS WHY THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT NOW IS OPENLY ACKNOWLEDGING THIS HAPPENED. THEY SAY THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL’S INVESTIGATION THAT IS BEING DONE TO LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN 2016. AND THEY LOOK AT IT AS CERTAINLY LOOKING AT WHAT MAY HAVE BEEN FOREIGN ELECTION INTERFERENCE IN THE 2016 ELECTION AND THAT INCLUDES INTELLIGENCE THAT MAY HAVE COME FROM UKRAINE AND FROM OTHER COUNTRIES THAT WAS USED ESSENTIALLY AGAINST CANDIDATE TRUMP AND THAT BECAME THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION. AND SO WE’RE TOLD THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS ASKED THE PRESIDENT TO HELP ESSENTIALLY PROD WITH THIS INVESTIGATION AND IT IS NOT JUST AUSTRALIA BUT A NUMBER OF OTHER COUNTRIES THAT WE KNOW OF THAT PROVIDED INTELLIGENCE TO WHAT BECAME THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION, INCLUDING THE UNITED KINGDOM AND INCLUDING THE NETHERLANDS, THAT INCLUDES ITALY, CYPRESS, ANY NUMBER OF COUNTRIES PROVIDED INFORMATION THAT ENDED UP IN THAT — IN THE MUELLER PROBE. YOU COULD BET THOSE ARE THE COUNTRIES THAT THEY’RE TARGETING AND SO WE HAVE A STATEMENT NOW FROM TERRY CUBE RICK, THE SPOKESPERSON FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR AND SAID AT ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR’S REQUEST, THE PRESIDENT HAS CONTACTED OTHER COUNTRIES TO ASK THEM TO INTRODUCE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND MR. DURHAM, JOHN DURHAM THE PROSECUTOR DOING THIS INVESTIGATION, TO APPROPRIATE OFFICIALS. THEY ARE PRETTY OPEN ABOUT IT. >>AND SO I THINK WHAT PEOPLE MIGHT BE SURPRISED TO LEARN IS THAT THERE IS SORT OF SOME LATITUDE, RIGHT, FOR THE U.S. GOVERNMENT TO ASK FOR HELP FROM THE ALLIES WHEN IT COMES TO INVESTIGATIONS. THE UKRAINE THING IS DIFFERENT, THOUGH.>>IT IS. >>OBSERVERS SH THE DOJ, THEY SEE THAT DIFFERENTLY. >>THEY DO SEE THE DIFFERENCE. BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT ON THAT — ON THE CALL THAT THE TRANSCRIPT WHICH WAS RELEASED LAST WEEK, YOU HEAR THE PRESIDENT SAYING TO THE UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT THAT HE WANTS HELP ESSENTIALLY FOR DIRT ON HIS PROSPECTIVE POSSIBLE RIVAL IN THE 2020 ELECTION. THAT MAKES — THAT IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE BECAUSE EVERYBODY, I THINK THE DEMOCRATS ARE LOOKING AT IT, AS YOU ARE TRYING TO GET FOREIGN HELP ON A FUTURE ELECTION WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAY HAPPENED IN 2016 AS WELL. >>STILL A LITTLE STINKY. RIGHT? THE IDEA OF GOING TO A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT TO DISCREDIT THIS — WHAT SEEMS TO BE A VALID ORIGIN OF AN INVESTIGATION.>>RIGHT. EVEN PEOPLE AROUND PRESIDENT TRUMP DEFEND THE ORIGINS OF THE INVESTIGATION. BUT, LOOK, I THINK YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT CREW AT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT NOW AND ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR HAD SKEPTICISM ABOUT THIS AND BEEN OPEN ABOUT THAT. >>HE HAS BEEN. EVAN PEREZ, THANK YOU FOR THE REPORTING AND BREAKING THAT DOWN. LET’S DISCUSS THE LATEST NEWS WITH CONGRESSMAN JERRY CONNELLY OF VIRGINIA, A KEY MEMBER OF THE OVER SIGHT AND FOREIGN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE. THANKS FOR BEING WITH US. >>GREAT TO BE WITH YOU, BRIANNA. >>SO YOU HEARD THIS REPORTING FROM “THE WASHINGTON POST” THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS HELD PRIVATE MEETINGS OVERSEAS WITH FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS LOOKING FOR THEIR HELP IN THIS EFFORT TO INVESTIGATE THE BEGINNINGS OF THE RUSSIA PROBE WHICH TURNED INTO THE MUELLER PROBE. HOW DO YOU THINK FOREIGN OFFICIALS ARE VIEWING THIS EFFORT? WHAT WOULD YOUR CONCERNS BE?>>I HOPE THEY WOULD VIEW IT WITH HORROR AND WOULD NOT COOPERATE WITH — TRY TO STAY OUT OF IT. THE LAST THING IN THE WORLD WE NEED IS MORE FOREIGN INTERFERENCE WITH OUR DOMESTIC POLITICAL SITUATION. THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES INVESTIGATING A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR WHO REPORTED TO HIM AND THE ORIGINS OF HIS SPECIAL REPORT. THAT IS UNHEARD OF AND IT IS IMPROPER. AND QUITE FRANKLY I THINK THE ATTORNEY GENERAL NEEDS TO RESIGN. HE IS NO LONGER EVEN PRETENDING TO BE OBJECTIVE IN THE MEETI — IN THE METING OUT OF JUSTICE IN THE UNITED STATES. HE IS NOTHING BUT A PRIVATE ATTORNEY FOR DONALD TRUMP AND THAT NOT HIS CONSTITUTIONAL ROLE. >>LET’S TALK ABOUT THE LATEST INFORMATION WE HAVE ON THIS CALL WITH UKRAINE’S PRESIDENT WHICH IS THE SUBJECT OF THE WHISTLE-BLOWER COMPLAINT AS THE PRESIDENT, ACCORDING TO THE MEMO OF THE CALL, ASKED THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE ESSENTIAL TO DIG UP DIRT ON JOE BIDEN AS THE PRESIDENT WAS FREEZING AID TO THE NATION. WHAT QUESTIONS DOES THIS RAISE FOR YOU ABOUT MIKE POMPEO? BECAUSE WE’VE JUST LEARNED HE WAS ON THE CALL.>>WELL, I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE JUXTAPOSITION OF CONVERSATION RIGHT AFTER THE UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT SAID WE NEED THAT MILITARY AID YOU’VE SUSPENDED AND CITED SPECIFIC KINDS OF MILITARY AID TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT THEMSELVES AGAINST RUSSIAN INCURSION IN THE EASTERN PART OF THE COUNTRY, DONALD TRUMP SAID WELL WE NEED YOUR HELP ON SOMETHING THOUGH. IN OTHER WORDS, BEFORE WE GET TO THAT, THAT SUSPENDED MILITARY AID, YOU NEED TO DO ME A FAVOR. AND THE FACT THAT THE SECRETARY OF STATE OVERHEARD THAT AND DID NOT ACT ON IT AND THOUGHT IT WAS APPARENTLY OKAY IS VERY TROUBLING. BECAUSE THAT CONSTITUTES EXTORTION. THE PRESIDENT WAS CLEARLY EXTORTING SOMETHING, A PRIVATE PERSONAL PARTISAN REQUEST TO DIG UP DIRT ON A PERSPECTIVE POLITICAL OPPONENT AND WILLING TO SUSPEND MILITARY AID DESPERATELY NEEDED BY A COUNTRY TRYING TO ESTABLISH DEMOCRACY AND FIGHT THE RUSSIAN INCURSION IS DEEPLY TROUBLING. AND THE FACT THAT IT WAS OVERHEARD BY THE SECRETARY OF STATE REALLY IS SOMETHING I DON’T THINK ANY AMERICAN WOULD COUNT NANCE. >>ON THE FLIP SIDE YOU SUGGESTED IF HE HEARD IT, MAYBE HE THINKS THAT WAS OKAY. WHAT IF HE HEARD IT AND MIKE POMPEO DOES NOT — DID NOT THINK THAT IT WAS OKAY?>>THEN HE NEEDS TO COME FORWARD. AND AN IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY IS UNDERWAY. THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS. THIS IS ABOUT PROTECTING THE INTEREST OF THE UNITED STATES. OUR NATIONAL SECURITY AND FRANKLY OUR DIPLOMATIC — OUR DEMOCRATIC NORMS AND INSTITUTIONS, WHERE IS MIKE POMPEO IF HE HEARD THAT AND SO FAR DONE NOTHING. AT LEAST ONE BRAVE INDIVIDUAL HAS COME FORWARD. THE WHISTLE-BLOWER. HE NEEDS TO BE PROTECTED. NOT UNVEILED OR PUT AT RISK. THE PRESIDENT HAS THREATENED TO DO ALL OF THAT. THAT IS WRONG. AND IT IS ALSO ILLEGAL.>>YOUR COMMITTEES OVERSIGHT AND FOREIGN AFFAIRS HAVE JOINED WITH THE INTEL COMMITTEE TO SUBPOENA RUDY GIULIANI, THE PRESIDENT’S PERSONAL LAWYER FOR DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH UKRAINE. WHAT HAPPENS NEXT IF RUDY GIULIANI DOESN’T COMPLY WHEN WE LOOK AT PAST LESSONS FROM SAY THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION JUSTICE DEPARTMENT WHERE DEALING WITH ISSUES LIKE THIS COULD TAKE YEARS IN COURT. WHAT DO YOU DO IF HE JUST IGNORES YOU GUYS?>>I AM A PASSIONATE ADVOCATE FOR REVIVING WHAT IS CALLED INHERIT CONTEMPT WHERE CONGRESS COULD ENFORCE ITS OWN SUBPOENAS. AND IN DOING THAT, WE COULD FIND — WE COULD FINE MR. GIULIANI AND GO TO THE BAR AND HAVE HIM — REQUEST THAT HE BE DISBARRED SO HE CAN’T PRACTICE LAW ANY MORE AND ULTIMATELY WE COULD PUT HIM IN JAIL. I THINK MR. GIULIANI IS PUTTING HIMSELF IN GRAVE RISK IF HE DEFIES THESE SUBPOENAS WHICH ARE VERY SPECIFIC AND VERY DETAILED. THEY GO BACK OVER TWO-YEAR PERIOD. AND IF HE DOESN’T COOPERATE WITH THOSE SUBPOENAS, I THINK HE’S GOING TO FIND HIMSELF IN GRAVE LEGAL JEOPARDY. >>DOES SPEAKER PELOSI SHARE YOUR VIEW WHEN IT COMES TO CONGRESS ENFORCING HIS OWN SUBPOENAS?>>SHE DOES NOT AS FAR AS I KNOW. SHE IS KIND OF DISMISSED THAT OUT OF HAND. BUT I BELIEVE THERE IS A GROWING CHORUS AMONG DEMOCRATS BOTH IN RANK AND FILE DEMOCRAT VOTERS AND ALSO MEMBERS OF THE CAUCUS WHO BELIEVE, BUT WE’RE NOT GETTING C GETTING — NOT GETTING ENFORCEMENT AND JUDICIARY ENFORCEMENT COULD TAKE A LONG TIME AND WE DON’T HAVE A LOT OF TIME AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OTHER REMEDIES. >>THE PRESIDENT IS TRYING TO FIND OUT WHO THE WHISTLE-BLOWER IS. THE WHISTLE-BLOWER WHO IS SUPPOSED TO BE PROTECTED, THEY’RE IDENTITY SUPPOSED TO BE PROTECTED BY LAW. ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE WHISTLE-BLOWER?>>I AM. FOR THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES — AND REMEMBER WHAT PRECEDED THAT TWEETER — WAS THE PRESIDENT SAYING THIS IS LIKE A SPY AND YOU KNOW WHAT WE DID WITH SPIES. WE EXECUTED THEM. THAT IS REALLY RECKLESS LANGUAGE. THAT PUTS THIS WHISTLE-BLOWER AT RISK GIVEN THE CLIMATE IN THE COUNTRY, THE FACT THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE ON EDGE ANYHOW. HE IS DELIBERATELY CHOSEN TO PUT THE LIFE AND SECURITY OF THIS WHISTLE-BLOWER AT RISK. UNDER THE LAW WHISTLE-BLOWERS ARE PROTECTED. THEY’RE PROTECTED IN TERMS OF THEIR IDENTITY AND CERTAINLY THEIR SECURITY. AND THE PRESIDENT HAS VIOLATED THAT LAW WITH THAT TWEET AND I THINK IT’S — IT IS A NEW LOW FOR A PRESIDENT THAT SEEMS TO HAVE NO BOTTOM IN TERMS OF NEW LOWS.>>CONGRESSMAN CONNELLY, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. WE APPRECIATE IT.>>MY PLEASURE, BRIANNA. >>>AND JUST AHEAD, WE HAVE MORE ON OUR TOP STORY. NEW DOCUMENT DEMANDS FROM DEMOCRATS. WILL RUDY GIULIANI COOPERATE WITH LAWMAKERS DIGGING INTO HIS DEALINGS WITH UKRAINE?>>>PLUS MORE PRESSURE FROM THE PRESIDENT AS HE LEANS ON YET ANOTHER FOREIGN LEADER FOR HELP>>>BREAKING NEWS. CNN HAS LEARNED THAT SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE POMPEO WAS ON THAT JULY PHONE CALL BETWEEN TRUMP AND THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE WHERE PRESIDENT TRUMP SPOKE — THIS IS THE CENTER OF THE WHISTLE-BLOWER COMPLAINT ALLEGING THAT THE PRESIDENT ABUSED HIS POWER TO ASK UKRAINE TO DIG UP DIRT ON JOE BIDEN AND HIS FAMILY. WE HAVE OUR POLITICAL AND OUR NATIONAL SECURITY EXPERTS JOINING US WITH MORE ANALYSIS ON THIS. SO PHIL MUDD, POMPEO IS ON THE CALL BUT LET’S LISTEN TO WHAT HE SAID ABOUT THIS A LITTLE OVER A WEEK AGO.>>THE “WALL STREET JOURNAL” IS REPORTING THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP PRESSED THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE EIGHT TIMES TO WORK WITH RUDY GIULIANI TO INVESTIGATE JOE BIDEN’S SON. WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THOSE CONVERSATIONS?>>SO YOU JUST GAVE ME A REPORT ABOUT A — A WHISTLE-BLOWER COMPLAINT, NONE OF WHICH I’VE SEEN.>>OKAY. THE CORRECT ANSWER IS, NO, I WAS ON THAT CALL. YOU COULD SEE WHY IT IS SUCH AN AWKWARD RESPONSE. BECAUSE HE WAS ON THE CALL BUT WASN’T ASKED ABOUT IT DIRECTLY. SO HE’S SORT OF TAP DANCING AROUND IT. THIS IS WHAT HE SAID BEFORE IT WAS PUBLIC THAT HE WAS ON THE CALL. WHAT DO YOU THINK?>>I WOULD HAVE SAID THE SAME THING. LOOK, HE IS A SMART GUY. HE KNOWS THIS IS GOING SOUTH. HERE IS THE PROBLEM HE’S GOT. THE PROBLEM IS NOT JUST THE PHONE CALL, THE PHONE CALL HAS WHAT WE CALL IN WASHINGTON IS A DO-OUT. THE PRESIDENT ASKED SOMEBODY TO DO SOMETHING OR A STAFF AND IN THIS CASE DIPLOMATS HAVE A DO-OUT AND THEY ARE NOW TO DEAL WITH THE UKRAINIANS ON THE PRESIDENT’S REQUEST. THE QUESTION FOR POMPEO IS WHEN YOUR STAFF DEALT WITH THE UKRAINIANS AFTER THIS, WHAT WAS THE GUIDANCE THEY GOT? YES OR NO, DID YOU ASK THEM TO FOLLOW UP BASED ON THE PRESIDENT’S ORDERS ON THE BIDEN INVESTIGATION AND THE $64,000 QUESTION, WAS THERE MONEY LINKED TO IT. I THINK HE’LL HAVE TO SHOW UP AT THE HILL OR HIS PEOPLE AT SOME POINT. >>THIS EXPLAINS WHY OUR REPORTING IS THAT POMPEO WAS ONE OF THE VOICES ARGUING AGAINST RELEASING THE TRANSCRIPT OF THIS CALL. SO IT COULD HELP EXPLAIN WHY HE WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE SAYING, MAYBE THIS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE THE ACTUAL WORD-FOR-WORD OR AS CLOSE AS WE’VE BEEN ABLE TO SEE TEXT OF THIS CALL BEING P PRE — BEING RELEASED AND OTHERS LIKE BARR ARE SAYING LET’S PUT IT OUT THERE TO TAMP DOWN ON THIS FERVER AND CLEARLY POMPEO WAS PROBABLY RIGHT BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IT DID NOT TAMP DOWN ON THE FERVOR AND INCREASED THE SCRUTINY IN THE CALL. >>BUT BRIANNA — >>GO ON. >>COULD WE SAY WHAT WE’RE NOT SAYING OUT — OUTLINE. MIKE POMPEO LIED. HE WAS ON THE CALL AND KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT PRESIDENT SAID AND WAS TALKED ABOUT. SO WHEN HE ANSWERED THAT QUESTION, HE WAS NOT BEING HONEST AND I THINK THAT — I HEARD PHIL, HE SAID HE DID THE SAME THING. I GET THAT. BUT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT MOMENT FOR MIKE POMPEO. HE NEEDS TO COME FORWARD. HE NEEDS TO CORRECT THIS. HE NEEDS TO SAY THAT HE WAS LESS THAN HONEST WITH PEOPLE BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IT WILL COME OUT. >>HE WAS TECHNICALLY CORRECT IN THE WAY HE SIDE STEPPED BUT NO WAY WITH THAT ANSWER WOULD YOU EVER HAVE THOUGHT THAT HE WAS ON THE PHONE CALL AND IT IS STUNNING TO BE SURPRISED BY THAT. SO YOU THINK THAT IS — YOU STILL THINK THAT IS LYING?>>I DO. LOOK, IT IS JUST TOO CUTE BY A HALF. MIKE POMPEO WAS WELL AWARE OF WHAT HE WAS BEING ASKED AND WHAT THE IMPLICATIONS WERE AND HE TRIED TO MISLEAD US AND MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE DID NOT KNOW THAT HE WAS — THAT HE WAS AWARE OF IT. AND THEN AS BEEN SAID, HE TRIED TO PREVENT THE TRANSCRIPT FROM COMING OUT. IF THERE IS NOTHING TO SEE HERE AS PEOPLE KEEP SAYING, THEN THERE IS NO REASON TO SIDE STEP THIS OR BE TECHNICALLY RIGHT OR TRY TO PREVENT THE TRANSCRIPT FROM COMING OUT.>>HE WAS CERTAINLY MISLEADING. I WANT TO ASK YOU GUYS ABOUT SOME OTHER NEWS WE HAVE THAT IS VERY INTERESTING. THE INSPECTOR GENERAL FOR THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS SORT OF PART OF THE BEGINNING OF WHERE THIS WHISTLE-BLOWER COMPLAINT CAME FROM, APPOINTED BY TRUMP, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE INDEPENDENT INSPECTOR, RIGHT, INDEPENDENT WATCH DOG HAS NOW FORCEFULLY PUSHED BACK ON THIS TALKING POINT PUT OUT BY THE PRESIDENT AND SOME REPUBLICANS THAT THE WHISTLE-BLOWER’S ACCOUNT IS JUST HEARSAY. THIS IS WHAT THE INSPECTOR GENERAL IS SAYING. QUOTE, AS PART OF HIS DETERMINATION THAT THE URGENT CONCERN APPEARED CREDIBLE, THE INSPECTOR GENERAL OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY DETERMINED THAT THE COMPLAINANT HAD OFFICIAL AND AUTHORIZED ACCESS TO THE INFORMATION AND SOURCES REFERENCED IN THE COMPLAINT AND CLASSIFIED APPENDIX INCLUDING DIRECT KNOWLEDGE OF CERTAIN ALLEGED CONDUCT. IN SORT THE ICIG DID NOT FIND THAT THE COMPLAINANT COULD, QUOTE, PROVIDE NOTHING MORE THAN SECOND-HAND OR UNSUBSTANTIATED ASSERTIONS. YOU NOW HAVE THE INSPECTOR GENERAL, JACKIE, PUSHING BACK ON THE PRESIDENT’S KEY CLAIM TO TRY TO DISCREDIT THIS WHISTLE-BLOWER. >>THERE HAVE BEEN VERY FEW OFFICIALS THROUGH THE PAST YEARS IN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION THAT HAVE ACTUALLY REBUKED SOME OF THE PRESIDENT’S FALSE ASSERTIONS. BUT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ONE. AND I THINK WHAT DIFFERENTIATES THE INSPECTOR GENERAL FROM THE REST OF THE GOP IS HE’S NOT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. AND SO HE’S NOT GOING TO GET EXCORIATED BY CONSERVATIVE MEDIA AND WOULD LEAD TO SORT OF THE PRESIDENT’S BASE, THEN TURNING THEIR BACKS ON IT AND SORT OF THIS — >>HE MIGHT BE EXCORIATED BUT MAYBE THE CONSEQUENCES ARE DIFFERENT. >>EXACTLY.>>HE’S NOT RUNNING FOR SOMETHING. >>EXACTLY. I WAS LISTENING TO RISH LIMBAUGH TODAY WHO WAS CRITIQUING MITCH McCONNELL FOR RECOGNIZING THE FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT IS FACING A LEGITIMATE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY AND SO IT IS — I GUESS IT IS SURPRISING POTENTIALLY THAT THE — THAT THE INSPECTOR GENERAL CAME OUT AGAINST THE PRESIDENT. BUT I’M NOT SURE THAT IT IS NECESSARILY GOING TO SWAY REPUBLICANS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. >>BUT IT IS STUNNING WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS DOING. JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS A WHISTLE-BLOWER, ABBY, WHO HAS GONE THROUGH THE APPROPRIATE PROCESS, THIS IS A WHISTLE-BLOWER WHO FOLLOWED THE FORMAL PROTOCOL FOR REPORTING A COMPLAINT THAT THEY HAVE AND THAT AFFORDS THIS WHISTLE-BLOWER PROTECTION UNDER THE LAW.>>THERE IS A CONCERTED EFFORT ON THE PART OF THE PRESIDENT AND HIS AIDES, BECAUSE OF WHAT WE SAW YESTERDAY ON THE SUNDAY TALK SHOW WITH STEPHEN MILLER GOING OUT THERE AND SAYING THIS PERSON IS NOT A WHISTLE-BLOWER. THEY ARE TRYING TO UNDERMINE THAT PROTECTION BY SAYING THIS PERSON DOESN’T DESERVE TO BE CALLED A WHISTLE-BLOWER AND THUS DOESN’T DESERVE THE PROTECTION THAT WHISTLE-BLOWERS HAVE WHICH IS BOTH ANONYMITY AND PROTECTION FROM RETALIATION. THE PRESIDENT HAS SPENT A LOT OF TODAY TRYING TO SAY THAT THE WHISTLE-BLOWER NEEDS TO BE FOUND OUT AND THAT HE NEEDS TO BE PUNISHED FOR WHAT HE WROTE IN THAT COMPLAINT. I DON’T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL OR NOT, BUT THERE IS NO MISTAKING IT, THEY ARE TRYING TO SORT OF CHANGE THE NARRATIVE AROUND THIS. AND IN DOING SO, TRYING TO UNDERMINE THE ACTUAL SYSTEM THAT EXISTS TO PROTECT PEOPLE LIKE THIS FROM COMING FORWARD AND I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY INTERESTING THAT THE — THE INSPECTOR GENERAL SAID THIS PERSON ACTUALLY DOES HAVE FIRST-HAND KNOWLEDGE. WE FOCUSED ON THE COMPLAINT ITSELF. BUT IN — ABOUT THE CALL, THE TRANSCRIPT OF THE CALL. BUT IN THE COMPLAINT THERE IS A LOT OF OTHER INFORMATION IN THERE SO IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN WHAT EXACTLY WAS THAT FIRST-HAND KNOWLEDGE AND I THINK THAT TELLS YOU ABOUT WHAT KIND OF POSITION THIS PERSON WAS IN. >>THERE IS INFORMATION WE ARE NOT YET PRIVY TO BUT CERTAINLY SOME MEMBERS OF CONGRESS ARE. LET’S STAND BY ALL OF YOU BECAUSE WE HAVE MUCH MORE TO TALK ABOUT INCLUDING THE FACT THAT A DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN JUST SAID HERE ON THE SITUATION ROOM HE’S ACTUALLY WORRIED BECAUSE OF WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS SAYING FOR THE SAFETY OF THIS WHISTLE-BL>>>WE’RE BACK NOW WITH OUR PANEL. AND PHIL MUDD, I WONDER WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT COULD BE DONE TO PROTECT THIS WHISTLE-BLOWER. WE JUST HAD A CONGRESSMAN ON, GERRY CONNELLY WHO IS WORRIED ABOU ABOUT THE — ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE WHISTLE-BLOWER AND HIS ATTORNEY IS CONCERNED AS WELL. WHAT COULD BE DONE. >>THEY SHOULD BE WORRIED. THE LIKELIHOOD THAT THE IDENTITY NEVER COMES OUT, HAS GOT TO BE — YOU ASSUME THE INDIVIDUAL AT THE WHITE HOUSE KNOWS OR SOMEWHERE IN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, THEY KNOW THE PERSON WILL GO DOWN TO CAPITOL HILL AT SOME POINT AND THEY WOULD KNOW. SO IN THIS TOWN, NOBODY IS GOING TO LEARN THE IDENTITY — LET ME GIVE YOU THE CHARACTERISTICS OF WHAT YOU HAVE OTO DO. PEOPLE ARE SAYING WHY NOT PROVIDE SECURITY AND RELOCATE THE FAMILY AND THE SPOUSE AND KIDS SHOULD HAVE SECURITY INCLUDING AT SCHOOL, WHO WILL SCREEN THE EMAIL TO ENSURE YOU HAVE THE FORENSIC CAPABILITY TO FOLLOW UP ON THE THREAT EMAILS AND DO THE SCREENING OF THE FAMILY’S MAIL TO ENSURE NOBODY IS SENDING DEATH THREATS THROUGH THE PAIL OR DEVICES THROUGH THE MAIL AND WHO WILL DO THIS FOR YEARS? THAT IS NOT SIMPLY AN EFFORT TO SECURE SOMEBODY FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS WHILE THEY GO DOWN AND GIVE TESTIMONY ON THE HILL AND IN TODAY’S ENVIRONMENT THIS IS A BILL DEGREE. >>FOR YEARS. WOW. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE SAW OVER THE WEEKEND. BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT IS IN A TOUGH SPOT AND HIS DEFENDERS WERE OUT IN FULL FORCE AND THIS IS WHAT THEY SAID YESTERDAY.>>I’VE ASKED YOU A SPECIFIC QUESTION AND I’D LIKE A SPECIFIC ANSWER. THE PRESIDENT HAS THE STATE DEPARTMENT, HE’S GOT THE CIA, HE’S GOT THE PENTAGON, HE’S GOT A NUMBER OF OTHER AGENCIES. WHY DID HE USE THREE PRIVATE LAWYERS TO GET INFORMATION ON BIDEN FROM THE — FROM THE UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT RATHER THAN GO THROUGH ALL OF THE AGENCIES OF HIS GOVERNMENT?>>TWO DIFFERENT POINTS. NUMBER ONE — >>HOW ABOUT ANSWERING MY QUESTION. >>THE PRESIDENT — >>>>HE’S PUSHING THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE TO INVESTIGATE A POLITICAL RIVAL AND I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT IS OKAY WITH YOU. IF THIS IS A PRINCIPLE — >>IT IS NOT OKAY, BECAUSE HE DIDN’T DO THAT. >>IT IS IN THE TRANSCRIPT. WE ALL READ IT. >>I READ THE TRANSCRIPT. >>PRESIDENT ZELENSKY SAID WE’RE ALMOST READY TO BUY MORE JAVELINS FROM THE UNITED STATES FOR DEFENSE PURPOSES AND PRESIDENT TRUMP REPLIES I WOULD LIKE YOU TO DO US A FAVOR THOUGH. >>YOU JUST ADDED ANOTHER WORD. >>NO. IT IS IN THE TRANSCRIPT. >>YOU SAID I WOULD LIKE TO YOU DO A FAVOR THOUGH?>>YES, IT IS IN THE TRANSCRIPT.>>WHEN I READ THAT — >>I MEAN, THAT WAS KIND OF DISASTROUS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE ATTEMPTS BECAUSE IT IS A DIFFICULT POSITION TO DEFEND.>>THEY DID NOT ATTEMPT TO DEFEND WHAT WAS BEING SAID AND DONE ON THAT CALL. EVERYONE ALMOST TO THE PERSON TRIED TO BASICALLY JUST CHANGE THE SUBJECT TO DEFLECT TO DEMOCRATS TRYING TO UNDERMINE PRESIDENT TRUMP FROM THE BEGINNING TO SAY THAT THE WHISTLE-BLOWER REALLY WASN’T A WHISTLE-BLOWER. THERE IS NOT MUCH OUT THERE IN THE WAY OF DEFENSE OF WHAT WAS ACTUALLY SAID ON THE CALL. AND IT IS VERY TELLING BECAUSE IT IS VERY HARD TO EXPLAIN THAT. IT SEEMS THAT KEVIN McCARTHY HADN’T EVEN READ THE TRANSCRIPT. HE WASN’T FAMILIAR WITH THE KEY POINTS OF THE CALL AND IT IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT WHEN HE’S FACED WITH QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT IS IN THE BLACK AND WHITE ON THAT PIECE OF PAPER, HE HASN’T BEEN ABLE TO ANSWER FOR IT. >>McCARTHY NOTABLY WAS PART OF THE GROUP THAT ADVOCATED FOR THE WHITE HOUSE RELEASING THE CALL NOTES WHICH WAS INTERESTING. BUT IN THAT — IN THE I.G. STATEMENT THAT WAS JUST RELEASED, THE INSPECTOR GENERAL STATEMENT, WE HAVE TO NOTE AGAIN THE WHISTLE-BLOWER SAID THEY HAD FIRST-HAND KNOWLEDGE OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT WERE LISTED. AND THAT IS SOMETHING REALLY IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND HERE AS THE GOP RALLIES AROUND THE PRESIDENT AND RELIES ON THE TALKING POINTS. THE MOST RECENT TALKING POINT BEING MAYBE THE PRESIDENT’S CALL WITH THE UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT WAS IMPROPER BUT NOT AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE. >>WHAT DO YOU THINK PHIL?>>THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE RIDICULOUS. GO TO A WORLD OF A 12-YEAR-OLD WHO MIGHT BE MORE MATURE THAN WHAT WE’VE SEEING ON TV AND YOU TELL THE 12-YEAR-OLD YOU’RE GROUNDED AND TELLING THE UKRAINIANS YOU CAN’T HAVE YOUR MONEY AND THE 12-YEAR-OLD SAID I’LL HELP YOU WITH A FAVOR OR DO YARDWORK TOMORROW. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE IMPLICIT AGREEMENT IS THERE. THE 12-YEAR-OLD SAYING I HOPE I DO THE FAVOR AND MAYBE I’M NOT GROUNDED ANY MORE. WHAT DO YOU THE UKRAINIANS THINK. IF WE BUY THIS STUFF AND HELP THE INVESTIGATION IT WON’T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH RELEASING FUNDS? WE MUST BE STUPID. THIS IS NOT THAT COX PLICK — COMPLICATED EXCEPT FOR WASHINGTON. >>SEAN?>>JUST TO ADD TO THE POINT, I THINK THERE IS A CLEAR REASON AS TO WHY THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO UKRAINE, TO AUSTRALIA, TO OTHERS AND SHOPPING AROUND THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITIES TO SEE WHO WILL HELP HIM IN GOING AFTER HIS POLITICAL FOES. AND ONE OF THE INTERVIEWS THAT WE PLAYED YOU HAD SOMEONE SAYING THE PRESIDENT HAS CIA AND THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT AND OTHER AGENCIES, THE TRUTH IS THAT HE DOESN’T. THE PRESIDENT HAS THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE BECAUSE HE’S PUT ACO LATES AT THE TOP OF THE DEPARTMENT BUT THE MOST INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY ON EARTH, HE KNOWS HE CAN’T GO TO THAT INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY AND USE THE TOOLS THE AUTHORITIES THAT THE I.C. HAS TO DO WHAT HE’S ASKING ANOTHER NATIONS TO DO AND SO THAT IS WHY HE’S GOING OUTSIDE OF THE UNITED STATES AND INVITING OTHERS TO COME INTO THE UNITED STATES AND TO INTERFERE IN OUR DEMOCRATIC PROCESS AND OUR ELECTIONS. WHAT WE REALLY HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT IS THAT IT IS THE JOB OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY TO MONITOR WHAT ALL OF THOSE OTHER FOREIGN NATIONS ARE DOING. AND THAT IS WHY THE PRESIDENT IS FOUND HIMSELF IN THIS SITUATION. THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS THING FOR A PRESIDENT TO BE DOING AND I THINK THAT WHEN THE FACTS COME OUT THIS IS TO USE AN OVERUSED WORD, THIS IS AN UNPRECEDENTED SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES. >>THANK YOU SO MUCH TO ALL OF YOU. SEAN, PHIL, JACKIE, ABBY, APPRECIATE THIS PANEL.>>>AND JUST AHEAD, AN EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN AND A MAN THAT WE RARELY SEE ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, HER HUSBAND. COULD HE RIDE THE SURGING WARREN CAMPAIGN AND>>>TONIGHT A CNN EXCLUSIVE. WE HAVE A LOOK INSIDE OF THE MARRIAGE OF SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN AND THE MAN WHO MIGHT BECOME THE FIRST MALE SPOUSE IN WHITE HOUSE HISTORY. OUR POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT MJ LEE SAT DOWN WITH SENATOR WARREN AND HIS HUSBAND BRUCE AND SHE’S JOINING US NOW. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THEY’VE DONE A JOINT INTERVIEW SINCE ELIZABETH WARREN LAUNCHED HER CAMPAIGN. TELL US ABOUT THIS. >>THAT IS RIGHT. AND BRIANNA, ELIZABETH WARREN’S CANDIDACY HAS BEEN ON THE RISE AND TONIGHT FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE SHE ANNOUNCED HER 2020 CAMPAIGN ON NEW YEAR’S EVE, HER HUSBAND BRUCE MANN IS SPEAKING OUT AND WE SPOKE WITH WARREN AND BRUCE AT THEIR HOME IN CAMBRIDGE AND FIRST WITH HER HUSBAND AND THEN THE TWO OF THEM TOGETHER. THE COUPLE OPENED UP TO CNN ABOUT HOW THEY MET 40 YEARS AGO AND WARREN’S DECISION TO JUMP INTO THE 2020 RACE AND HOW THEY ARE HANDLING ATTACKS FROM THE CRITICS, INCLUDING FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP. >>HOW DID YOU TWO MEET?>>OH, IN A PINK HOTEL. >>YEP. A PINK HOTEL IN KEY BISCAYNE. >>Reporter: MEET BRUCE MANN, A HARD LAW SCHOOL PROFESSOR BETTER KNOWN AS ELIZABETH WARREN’S HUSBAND. >>SO 1979. >>YES. >>YOU MET SENATOR WARREN. WHAT WAS SHE LIKE?>>OH, THE FIRST — LET ME SET THE SCENE. BECAUSE — >>PLEASE. >>IT IS COMPLETELY IMPROBABLE. >>Reporter: THE TWO MET WHEN THEY WERE 29 YEARS OLD. ATTENDING A LAW CONFERENCE IN FLORIDA. WARREN HAD RECENTLY SEPARATED FROM HER FIRST HUSBAND JIM WARREN.>>AS I APPROACHED THE RECEPTION I LOOKED ACROSS THE LAWN AND FROM ABOUT, I DON’T KNOW, 25 YARDS AWAY THE — I SAW ELIZABETH TALKING TO A COUPLE OF PEOPLE AND THE — AND EVEN FROM THAT DISTANCE I WAS JUST — I WAS DRAWN TO HER. SHE WAS SO LIVELY, SO ANIMATED, SO ENGAGED. I JUST FELL FOR HER FROM 25 YARDS OUT BEFORE EVEN MEETING. >>LOVE AT FIRST SIGHT? FOR ME. IT TOOK HER A COUPLE OF DAYS. >>FOR YOU. >>I WAS MUCH SLOWER. THAT WAS A SUNDAY LATE AFTERNOON. >>THAT IS RIGHT. >>WHEN WE MET. I WASN’T COMPLETELY IN LOVE WITH HIM UNTIL SOMETIME MID-MORNING ON MONDAY. HE WAS IN THE ROW AHEAD OF ME DOWN AT THE OTHER END OF THE ROW AND IT WAS ON MONDAY WHEN I ACTUALLY SAW HIM IN SHORTS AND — AND GOOD LOOKING LEGS AND — >>WOW!>>YEAH. THAT IS WHEN I WAS ALL IN. >>THAT IS RIGHT. I WAS — SHE COMPLETELY OBJECTIFIED ME. >>IT IS TRUE. >>Reporter: AS THE COUPLE TELLS IT, IT WAS A WHIRL WIND ROMANCE BUILT ON A SHARED LOVE OF TEACHING AND ACADEMIA AND A BOND OVER SIMILAR UPBRINGING AND AFTER THEY MET IT WAS WARREN WHO POPPED THE QUESTION. >>IT WAS IN THE FALL. AND I WATCHED HIM TEACH A CLASS WHICH I NEVER DONE BEFORE SO I’M SITTING IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM WHILE HE’S TEACHING AND WITH THE CLASS, A REALLY GOOD CLASS AND STUDENTS AND A LOT OF INTERACTION AND STUDENTS ASKING QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS AND THEY ALL LEAVE AND HE WALKS BACK IN THIS BIG EMPTY CLASSROOM AND HE LOOKS DOWN AT ME AND HE SAYS, WELL WHAT DID YOU THINK? AND I SAID, GREAT. WILL YOU MARRY ME? AND HE SAID — >>YES. >>– YES. AND THAT WAS IT. THAT WAS IT. I GOT TO SEE HIM IN ONE — GOT TO SEE HIM IN SHORTS. GOT TO WATCH HIM PLAY TENNIS AND DO ALL OF THAT WHEN WE WERE IN MIAMI FOR THREE WEEKS. AND THEN GOT TO SEE HIM TEACH. AND THOUGHT THAT’S IT. I’M MARRYING THIS ONE. WHEN YOU FIND A GOOD ONE, GRAB THEM AND HANG ON. >>I’M GLAD TO SEE ALL OF YOU HERE. >>Reporter: WARREN IS NOW ONE OF THE LEADING CANDIDATES FOR THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION FOR PRESIDENT. IF SHE WINS, HER HUSBAND WOULD BE THE FIRST MALE PRESIDENTIAL SPOUSE IN HISTORY. HE SAID IT IS NOT A ROLE HE EVER IMAGINED HIMSELF PLAYING. >>WHEN YOU FIRST MET THE SENATOR, SHE WAS A REPUBLICAN.>>I DON’T THINK I KNEW THAT AT THE TIME. HOWEVER CONSERVATIVE SHE MIGHT HAVE BEEN AT THE TIME, IT WAS NOT PARTICULARLY APPARENT. AND WE REALLY DOESN’T DISCUSS POLITICS. >>Reporter: FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES DESCRIBE MANN AS THE QUIETER OF THE COUPLE. DEVOTED TO HIS SCHOLARSHIP AND EVEN MORE DEVOTED TO HIS WIFE. HE’S BEEN BY WARREN’S SIDE AS HER POLITICAL CAREER HAS TAKEN OFF RAPIDLY, BEGINNING WITH A SENATE CAMPAIGN IN 2012 AND A PRESIDENTIAL RUN ANNOUNCED ON THE LAST DAY OF 2018.>>SO THAT CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU, WHERE YOU DECIDO — WHERE YOU DECIDE OKAY WE’RE GOING TO DO THIS, WHAT DOES THAT CONVERSATION LOOK LIKE. >>I DON’T THINK OF IT AS A SINGLE CONVERSATION. IT WAS A BIT I DID HAVE KRCONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER PEOPLE, REAL CONFERRINGS THAT I TOLD HIM I WOULD HAVE SO I COULD GET GOOD ADVICE. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT DECISION.>>THE CONVERSATIONS SHE MENTIONED WERE ASKING PEOPLE TO GIVE HER THREE REASONS WHY SHE SHOULD RUN. THREE REASONS WHY SHE SHOULDN’T. SHE SAVED ME FOR LAST. FINALLY SHE ASKED ME FOR THREE REASONS PRO AND CON. I SAID, NO. I’M NOT GOING TO DO IT. I SAID YOU’RE GOING TO RUN ANY WAYS. IT JUST DOESN’T MATTER BECAUSE IF YOU DON’T RUN AND DEMOCRATS LOSE, YOU’LL FEEL GUILTY BECAUSE THAT MEANS THERE WILL BE NO ONE TO FIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE AND THE ISSUES THAT YOU CARE ABOUT.>>IT JUST BECAME CLEARER AND CLEARER.>>YEAH.>>IN THIS FIGHT THAT YOU’RE RIGHT. I KOUNDS NOT DO IT.>>WE FAST FORWARD TEN MONTHS. YOU KNOW YOUR WIFE HAS BEEN LEADING THE POLLS. AS THE PERSON WHO KNOWS HER THE BEST, WHY DO YOU THINK SHE’S LEADING POLLS NOW?>>BECAUSE SHE’S THE BEST PERSON TO DO THE JOB.>>I’M GLAD YOU FEEL THAT WAY.>>I DO. I DO. I DO. IT’S AN ENTIRELY UNBIASSED OPINION.>>THAT’S RIGHT. YOU REMEMBER WE DON’T DO POLLS.>>WE DO NOT DO POLLS.>>IF SHE DOES BECOME THE NOMINEE, SHE WILL GO UP AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP. ARE YOU READY FOR THAT?>>I’M NOT SURE IF ANYONE TRAINS FOR IT. YOU JUST JUMP INTO THE DEEP END AND YOU SWIM.>>AS HIS WIFE IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT, MANN IS CONTINUING TO TEACH AT HARVARD LAW SCHOOL. SHE’S BEEN LIMITED TIME ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL BUT SAYS HE ALREADY HAS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT JOBS OR THE WARREN CAMPAIGN.>>MY PRINCIPAL ROLE HAS BEEN BAILEY MANAGEMENT. I HELP HIM MANAGE HIS PHOTO LINES.>>THE COUPLE’S 16-MONTH-OLD GOLDEN TROOERETRIEVER HAS DEVELA FOLLOWING OF HIS OWN.>>WHAT DO YOU DO TO KEEP ANY SENSE OF NORMALCY WHEN YOU’RE HOME?>>BAILEY. WE TRY TO GET OUT TO FRESH POND. IT’S A REALLY GOOD DAY WE DO DOUBLES AT FRESH POND. WE GO EARLY IN THE MORNING AND AGAIN JUST BEFORE IT’S DARK IF WE CAN MAKE THAT WORK IN THE SCHEDULE.>>IS THERE ANYTHING YOU CAN TELL US ABOUT SENATOR THAT WE DON’T KNOW ABOUT?>>THERE’S A LOT.>>JUST SOMETHING THE AVERAGE PERSON WOULDN’T KNOW ABOUT SENATOR WARREN.>>TO THE RESCUE.>>BAILEY IS THE REASON FOR MANN’S RECENT VISIT TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM.>>HE WAS PLAYING WITH ANOTHER DOG AND THE OTHER DOG ATTACKED HIM. BAILEY WAS HAPNDLING HIMSELF FINE. MY HAND CAUGHT ON HIS HARNESS AND BROKE A BONE. WARREN AND HER HUSBAND BOTH USED THE SAME WORD TO DESCRIBE THE CAMPAIGN.>>THE DAY YOU ANNOUNCED YOUR CAMPAIGN IT WAS NEW YEAR’S EVE. YOU HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE RIGHT OUTSIDE THIS HOUSE WITH BAILEY. AT THE VERY END I THINK A REPORTER TURNED TO YOU, ASKED FOR A COMMENT AND YOU SAID, WE’VE BEEN MARRIED A LONG TIME AND IT’S ALWAYS BEEN AN ADVENTURE SO THIS IS JUST ANOTHER ONE. HOW IS THAT ADVENTURE GOING?>>REALLY EXTRAORDINARILY WELL. IT’S EVEN MORE OF AN ADVENTURE. BACK THIN I HAD NO IDEA WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. ONLY WE WOULD DO IT. EVERY PART OF IT REMAINS AN ADVENTURE. I STAND BY THAT STATEMENT.>>OH, YES. I CAN DO THIS ADVENTURE BECAUSE WE DO IT TOGETHER. IT’S TRUE.>>AS YOU SAW, HE DOES JOIN HIS WIFE ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL EVERY NOW AND AGAIN. THE SENATOR SAYS SHE WILL BE HAPPY TO HAVE HIM OUT ON THE ROAD WITH HER MORE OFTEN.>>AND HE’S FRONT ROW. YOU HAVE TO BE FRONT ROW AS THE SPOUSE. VERY SUPPORTIVE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THAT WAS PRETTY COOL.>>THANKS.>>>JUST AHEAD, A NEW LAW IN>>>THIS MOVE COULD MEAN BIG MONEY FOR SOME TSTUDENT ATHLETE OPENING THE DOOR FOR LUCRATIVE ENDORSEMENT DEALS. CALIFORNIA IS AT THE FOREFRONT OF A NATIONAL MOVEMENT AND CHIDED COLLEGES FOR PROFITING OFF OF THEIR PLAYERS. IN A STATEMENT THE NCAA IS SLAMMING THIS LAW FOR QUOTE CREATING CONFUSION. THE NCAA SAYS IT’S LOOKING INTO NEXT STEPS. WHAT WILL THOSE BE? WE DO NOT KNOW. THE NEW RULES WILL TAKE EFFECT IN 2023 IF THEY SURVIVOR THE EXPECTED LEGAL CHALLENGE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING. ERIN BURNETT OUTFRONT STARTS NOW.>>>BREAKING NEWS, RUDY GIULIANI SLAPPED WITH A SUBPOENA ORDERED TO HAND OVER DOCUMENTS CENTRAL TO THE IMPEACHMENT INVESTIGATION. WILL THE PRESIDENT’S PERSONAL ATTORNEY ACTUALLY COOPERATE.>>>TRUMP’S ADD VISORS WARNING THE PRESIDENT IT’S LIKELY HE WILL BE IMPEACHED. THIS AS FRUSTRATION GROWS WITH TRUMP’S OBSESSION WITH A CONSPIRACY THEORY.>>>DEMOCRATS UNDER PRESSURE TONIGHT. IS THE IMPEACHMENT PUSH PUTTING THEIR JOBS IN JEDOPARDY? LET’S GO OUTFRONT.>>>GOOD EVENING. I’M POPPY HARLOW. RUDY GIULIANI HAS BEEN SUBPSUB SUBPOENAED. HOUSE DEMOCRATS ANNOUNCING THEY HAVE SUBPOENAED THE PRESIDENT’S PERSON ATTORNEY FOR THOSE DOCUMENTS RELATED TO UKRAINE. RUDY GIULIANI IS AT THE CENTER OF THE IMPEACHMENT INVESTIGATION MENTIONED 31 TIMES DESCRIBED AS A CENTRAL FIGURE IN EFFORTS TO PRESSURE UKRAINE TO INTERFERE IN THE 2020 ELECTION. THERE’S GROWING QUESTIONS TONIGHT ABOUT ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE PRESIDENT’S INNER CIRCLE. CNN IS LEARNING THE SECRETARY OF STATE, MIKE POMPEO, WAS ON THAT JULY 25th PHONE CALL WHEN THE PRESIDENT ASKED UKRAINE’S PRESIDENT TO DIG UP DIRT ON JOE BIDEN. THIS COMES AS PRESIDENT TRUMP SAYS HE’S TRYING TO UNCOVER THE IDENTITY OF THE WHISTLE-BLOWER.>>DO YOU KNOW WHO THE WHISTLE-BLOWER IS SIR?>>WE’RE TRYING TO FIND OUT ABOUT A WHISTLE-BLOWER. WHEN YOU HAVE A WHISTLE-BLOWER THAT REPORTS THINGS THAT WERE INCORRECT.>>HERE IS HOW AN ATTORNEY FOR THE WHISTLE-BLOWER IS RESPONDING TONIGHT TWEETING QUOTE, THE INTEL COMMUNITY WHISTLE-BLOWER IS ENTITLED TO ANONYMITY, LAW AND POLICY SUPPORT THIS AND THE INDIVIDUAL WILL NOT BE RETALIATED AGAINST. DOING SO IS A VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW. LET’S NOT FORGET THE PRESIDENT’S OIN ACTING DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE SAID SUCH THREATS ARE OUT OF LINE.>>THE INSPECTOR GENERAL IS PROPERLY PROTECTING THE COMPLAINTANTS IDENTITY AND WILL NOT PERMIT THEM TO BE SUBJECT TO RETALIATION.>>THIS IS A PRESIDENT THAT IS LASHING OUT AS THE IMPEACHMENT PRESSURE MOUNTS THROWING EVERY DEFENSE AGAINST THE WALL TO SEE WHAT

39 thoughts on “URGENCY ! Trump TRYING to FIND OUT Whistleblower’s Identity to ‘INTIMIDATING’

  1. Trump inciting violence again and trying to identify whistle blowers. Whoever releases information about whistle blowers identity should be charged

  2. Why he is dancing around the world to mess up American relationship tho? Who are they to interfere in American business?Ukraine was enough !!

  3. Those were not hearsay, they were accounts of intelligence officials that had direct listening on the call, and the call transcript was exactly corroborating the whistle blower account. Hearsay would be the kind of BS the commander in thief has been spewing most of his life. Obama being Kenyan born, millions of dead people and illegals having voted in the last election, his inaugural crowds having set all time records, and the list goes on as the compulsive liar keep talking or tweeting.

  4. Get that traitor Trump out of here now!!!! Our country is in danger. We are America the home of the brave and the land of the free be strong stand up to that piece of you know what he aint [email protected]ร—

  5. I've followed every aspect of this drama and although I would like to hear Ms. Hill and Ms. Yovanvitch testimony, I know how important it is to keep their testimony secret. This is a matter of national security and we're living in very dangerous times with a dangerous man who is trying to hold this country hostage. The less Trump knows the better off we are.

  6. Raid guiliana's house, office, and phone calls.
    I'm sure the Democratic party will find more than they ever thought they would.

  7. Julianco must be dreaming a nightmare, it's real my friend Rudy! Buckle up! Bet Cohen is smiling in jail. Just ask for a cell far away from him. And you thought you were smarter, not around the conman, no one is safe. Jail is the end point. Y'all be careful and tell the truth or u go down while he stands free, for now.

  8. George Bush found Saddam Hussein
    Obama found bin Laden.
    Trump can't even find a whistle-blower in the white House what a moron

  9. Please watch trump, and his henchmen to protect this whistle blower..because Im sure the Republicans are desperate to find the whistleblower , either to intimidate them, buy them off, or kill them….GET THESE REPUBLICANS OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE…THE COUNTRY IS NOT SAFE.

  10. Just hurry up and impeach him already ! This administration has done absolutely NOTHING in 3 years but play golf and use the tax payers money for legal shenanigans!

  11. Rebub and his base gives him a pass that money they got from the guys that went to jail that's why they don't say anything

  12. Here we go, another corrupt Trump depender Collins indicted. Hang him in the jail. Good for him. Who is the next?

  13. ๐—œ๐—ณ ๐—ž๐—œ๐—ก๐—š ๐—ง๐—ฅ๐—จ๐— ๐—ฃ ๐—ด๐—ฒ๐˜๐˜€ ๐—ฎ๐˜„๐—ฎ๐˜† ๐˜„๐—ถ๐˜๐—ต ๐˜๐—ต๐—ถ๐˜€, ๐˜€๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐˜๐—ต๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐˜„๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ด ๐˜„๐—ถ๐˜๐—ต ๐—จ๐—ฆ — ๐—”๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐—ป ๐—ฐ๐—ถ๐˜๐—ถ๐˜‡๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜€. ๐—›๐—ฒ "๐—ฏ๐˜‚๐—น๐—น๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐˜€" ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—จ๐—ป๐—ถ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—ฆ๐˜๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜€ ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—ช๐—˜ ๐—น๐—ฒ๐˜ ๐—ต๐—ถ๐—บ!!! This MF is crazy.

  14. There will be one huge street party / celebration once Trump is impeached and out of the White House you can count on that. "Dump Trump National Holiday."

  15. The investigation has gone beyond the whistle blower. Why the desperation to know who he/she is unless it is to harm that person. This is a mafia style administration.

  16. Trump wants to know the identity of this person so that he can make sure they have the same eventuality as his good friend Jeffrey Epstein had?? Epstein was under the care and keeping of the same guy that let his good friend Epstein watch him rape a 13 year old child as told by the child herself. Trump and Barr had this man under their personally supervised watch, out of care for his health and well being?? Isn't anybody concerned about DJTrumps good friend hanging himself from his reported bedframe? Him being more than 6 feet tall? Doesn't that sound fishy to anybody that believes in the laws in this country??

  17. This is how Trump negotiates. Blackmail the one he wants to manipulate to do his bidding. Trump is not a President he is a dictator and the rats who have not left the sinking ship should be ashamed of themselves for lying for that man and you will have no respect when this is over.

  18. LETS CALL THIS WHAT IT IS / THE DEMON RATS LOST A ELECTION / SO THEY HAVE FUCKING WITH TRUMP BEFORE DAY ONE / WITH A INSURANCE PLAIN THAT ALONE TELLS YOU WHAT THE DEMON -RATS ARE UP TO / AND IF THEY TRY TO TAKE DOWN OUR PRESIDENT WELL THERE WILL BE A CIVIL WAR OF GOD FEARING MEN AND WOMAN AGAINST A BUNCH OF EVIL BASTARDS IT WILL GO ON FOR YEARS A SO TRUST IN GOD AND KEEP YOUR POWDER DRY GIVE US LIBERTY OR GIVE US DEATH

  19. stupidity…… ALL whistleblowers need to be identified…… how would you like a hidden witness with no direct knowledge who was a political hack, testify at YOUR trial…….it's insane……… you cannot convict someone with a hidden witness that defense never sees or questions…….that's what. a Lynch mob does, you fools if they can do that to a president they could do it to YOU……. just make up something, have a hidden witness, secret trial, and boom….

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