Walker wants to reform welfare

Walker wants to reform welfare


“UPFRONT.” WE’RE LOOKING AHEAD TO GOVERNOR WALKER’S BUDGET ROLLOUT WEDNESDAY. WE’RE JOINED TODAY BY DEMOCRATIC REPRESENTATIVE GORDON HINTZ OF OSHKOSH, AND REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATIVE DALE KOOYENGA OF BROOKFIELD, BOTH MEMBERS OF THE JOINT COMMITTEE ON FINANCE. Going to begin by talking about welfare reform. That was an issue that was big back in the 90’s, and here it is again. Why is welfare reform needed again? REP. KOOYENGA: when you look at seven years ago when Governor Walker was elected and Republicans took over, we had a problem where workers couldn’t time jobs. Now people employing can’t find people to fill those jobs. First, it’s the right thing to do. People are at their best when they have meaningful work. You want to help people get out of addiction issues or other tight spots they are in by having a system that doesn’t encourage them to be in an atmosphere where they are taking drugs and have job opportunities. That makes sense. There opportunities for welfare reform and find employers and employees. MIKE: Democrats I have talked to have a very curt response to this, they think is bad policy. Why is it that policy? REP. HINTZ: I think we should revisit W-2, there are improvements we can make. If you look at states like Minnesota, instead of looking at short-term employment for someone to get them off the rolls, they have looked to find them a career that is more stable. Maybe more front and resources and managing through the program in a better way could lead to more effective outcomes. I think the Democrats are doubtful that the governor’s intent is to actually assist some of these people when you look at what happened with how many people were kicked off of food share, when you look at the fact that he has often used some of the people that are struggling the most as a punching bag for political points. I think there’s questions about the intent that he is going to get tough rather than he is excellent doing this to motivate or cut people off into work somehow. MIKE: I want to spend a couple of minutes before we wrap this up I talking about the developments at the end of last week regarding the ongoing battle over the states legislative maps. A federal judge saying Republicans need to redraw the map. Republicans late last week said we are going to hire attorneys, a couple of firms represent us in this, because we still think they are right. But as part of the hiring of those firms, there’s no limit on the dollars that could be charged to the taxpayers of the state. Representative kooyenga, do you agree with a blank check? REP. KOOYENGA: I think it will be part of the budget process going forward, getting an amount that makes sense in the overall budget. The stakes are high, this is not only Republican battle in other states, Democrats are on the opposite side of this issue. I know that as those courts go to the Supreme Court, there are Democrats and Republicans that are both in tight spots saying the Constitution says the legislature draws the maps, then what is the alternative? The court says we don’t draw the maps. It’s complicated. I can understand why you want to have top-tier talent. We will definitely look in the budget and see with the estimates are for the total cost of the to make sense. MIKE: do you think the maps they are currently drawn are fair? REP. KOOYENGA: it’s really hard to look at that. If you look at the way the whole country is going — we have a concentration of Democrats in large cities. It’s almost like the whole city state concept back in the Roman Empire. Democrats are very concentrated. To deal with that, you would have to have these pizza pie like districts that would look gerrymandered themselves. The process of drawing maps has always been a messy process since the founding of our country. It’s no different now. I think there is room for improvement. MIKE: let’s get the Democratic perspective. REP. HINTZ: the only thing that could make this look like a deal is the attorney fees they’re are going to pay to defend their election rigging. If you want to know people are cynical about politics and government, his decision like these. If that are taking the court order in drawing new maps of playing fair, they’re going to double down on this at great expense to the taxpayer. People should be outraged. MIKE: I appreciate your time today. Repetitive DALE KOOYENGA OF BROOKFIELD, and REPRESENTATIVE GORDON HINTZ of OshKosh. OUR EDITORIAL PARTNER, WISPOLITICS.COM, HAS DETAILS OF THE GOVERNOR’S PLAN TO BOOST AID TO RURAL SCHOOLS. YOU’LL FIND THE STORY ON THE BUDGET BLOG AT WISPOLITICS.COM. NEXT, THE FUTURE OF LIBERAL TALK RADIO. DOES IT HAVE A CHANCE TO FINALLY TAKE OFF IN THE AGE OF TRUMP? I’LL ASK THE DEVIL’S ADVOCATES, NEXT ON “UPFRONT.” Here are your hosts, Dom and crute. MIKE:

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